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Anything Outdoor 2018

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
Veteran
I’m glad to see your still in the game WV! Man it’s rained a ton this season! I have to make this post kind of fast but I’ll be back on tonight.. OK so I’d love to here some feedback on this one.. I was going to possibly my BEST plot today and I got right real close to it maybe 200 feet and stopped to take a break.. looked to my left and BAM I’m staring into the lense of a trail cam.. it was about 80-100 feet away.. I had long sleeves and a mask on like always but gosh.. whoever’s that is HAS to know about my plot there’s literally no way they don’t.. and thinking back on it.. strange things over the past TWO years are starting to add up now that I know someone is going to that area.. before I couldn’t understand things because I thought there was no way possible anybody else ever stepped foot on that soil.. I’m just bummed and honestly don’t know what my next move is I have a few ideas tho.. and I’m telling ya this is a HEAVY producing area


Well if it's me I'm taking the cam home to see what's on it. Then I'm gonna put that cam somewhere else to see who the fuck is coming to that plot. Maybe invest in 2-3 more trail cams and get to the bottom of things. Another thing has anyone ever took any of your plants last season?? Or is this a first yr using this plot. Another thing this may be a younger kid or somebody who could care less about your plants. That's why you gotta take the cam I guarantee whoevers cam this is there ass is on it front and center when they tested it before leaving it. When you find out who it is you could maybe talk to them or kinda just figure it out after you see who it is. Most small town folks know one another well so you'll probably know when you see them. Im sure there not trying to hide themselves if there pic is on the cam....everybody walks in front to make sure there working and that's were your gonna see them. Thing is you don't really know how long the cams been there or nothing. I hate to take things but I swear you don't have a choice in my opinion.

This is so weird I've been looking everywhere on my way to my good guerilla patch for trail cams. I've stood around looking everywhere. I pray I'm not overlooking one right in front of my face. This is really my only GOOD plot. I hope you brought the cam home to check at least. Afterwards you could always take it back to the same place.....kinda 2 ways to go about things but you gotta check it to see if you know who's it is. Maybe somebody else might have a better idea but dang you gotta take it home and check the pics at least don't he guys??? This is a major security issue in a illegal grow
 

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
Veteran
Yea kinda try to see if there ass is coming into your plot or wtf they are doing. Like I said maybe a young hunter or old man just wanting to see the deer, bear or whatever. But if they wasn't worried about your grow I'm sure once they see or already saw you they have checked to see what your doing. If you look like your hunting it may be ok. But if they saw you with a sprayer, water bucket and shit they'll probably see what your up to. I think you gotta put cams on your grow. I'd definatly try to switch shit around on the SIM card or just unload it all on your computer and just put the damn thing somewhere around the grow that NOBODY could find. You gotta be careful hopefully this isn't somebody trying to report/bust you for growing
 

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
Veteran
I've been thinking about investing in that cheap trail cam at Walmart to put on my container grow to make 100% that nobody is fucking around when I'm not home or snooping around somehow that I'm not seeing or noticing. I think with KYs issue were all gonna be having to make this desicion if it's even a question....a 30$ trail cam might save 10k or more grow or keep you outta jail. Hopefully he finds out who's it is and maybe can figure this out.
 

dufous

Well-known member
I would not take a camera unless I was absolutely sure there were no other cameras watching it. Taking other people's property is theft even if they leave it in public.

Just because someone knows about your grow doesn't mean they are going to bother you. I've found other people's grows in the woods. I looked around and moved on.
 

PDX Dopesmoker

Active member
Yup. KB has a great idea. Take the memory card, add a new one, and relocate the camera for your use.

I'd fill up the replacement card with gay porn or pics of Cheech and Chong.
I pulled off that "looking like a nerd enjoying the the wilderness" pantomime on every visit for a few years in VA in the 80s and a couple more in AZ in the 90s. It worked for me or might have been completely unnecessary, I'll never know which, but its not a big deal because pulling off the nerd act isn't all that challenging in my case. Play acting when you know nobody is watching you is really weird, the part where you pretended to be incredibly surprised when you notice the marijuana plants can be hard to pull off without losing it. Even just carrying a fishing pole with you can be a good enough disguise, all you have to do is put a plausible idea for why you're in the wilderness in their head with a prop and let then feel smart for figuring it out themselves.
 
Ok so I had to type that last post out fast earlier.. I’ve read all of your responses and here are a few details that I left out.. this area is RIDDLED with black bears.. I seen these awkward holes all last year and all this year.. looked like a bear just set and dug at the ground breaking up the hard rocky and root filled ground like a foot deep.. I thought it was very strange(let me remind you this is literally in “no mans land” every single time I would go to this plot on my way in or my way out I would see a bear or 2 EVERY TIME.. ok so back to the story (I don’t have good eye sight) I was going to my plot, stop to take a break and was looking around, a awkward shape caught my eye about idk I guess 100 feet away.. I walked a little closer and thought “oh shit that’s man made, that’s a BOX on a tree” so I took the long way around and came up on the back side of it I was peeking my head around just enough to check it out but not let it take my picture (Incase it didn’t already) it was a steel box bolted to the tree and it had a flap down frame on the front with a lock on it to where the trail camera won’t come out of the box unless you cut the lock and open the flap down door thing and then take the camera out.. about 20 feet in front of the camera was one of those weird holes.. like this guy is putting something for the bears to eat? Ok so I traced back the way the guy came in (which was the easiest route in) I never go that way.. but anyways, the way he comes in and the way I come in intersects (like I said about 100 feet from his camera) and because my route is so steep there’s bare dirt skid marks that he HAD to of seen this year and even last year.. because right there at the intersection I found two Dr Pepper cans last year but they had holes in them like a animal carried them so I just said “psh a deer or bear got into someone’s camp trash and they ended up here” but in the back of my mind I have always thought “really? 2 of the same cans?” But let me remind you last year my grow went just fine! I even used still cable, a tarp, zip up mesh drying racks to do the majority of my drying of that grow only about 800 feet from the plot.. what REALLY weirded me out during that drying period last year.. I went out one early morning to check on my drying racks under my tarp and nothing had been touched or bothered but a deer antler was laying right under my tarp that was set up over my drying racks.. and it wasn’t even the right time for a buck to shed its antlers?? It had me so confused.. is this guy not interested in my grow but frequents the area a lot? Is he f*ucking with me? Or is this someone trying to catch me red handed? I would never guess in a million years someone would ever be out at this place! I hope this post makes since I’ve just been typing out everything I could think of! Thanks guys
 
Oh another thing is that yes, I could destroy it.. I could tear it off I could do all that BUT what if this guy knows what I been doing and hasn’t messed with it.. then I go destroying his camera
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
A few years ago I left a crop because I thought someone on a quad saw me from across the field when I had a small flashlight going and was taking flash pictures. I came back January 16 and they were dried and not moldy at all. Was good smoke actually. Cured outside! Must have been a dry fall!


Yeah it would be best to night time garden there from now on. Or you could leave it until mid January! Keep fighting the good fight!


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-TheShortTexan-

Active member
I see what you mean... man that's a hard one with a grow this deep in op. I would definitely not go back to that spot next year. But as for now I guess go a completely different route to your grow and set up your own camera. You could leave a dollar bill or two around your plants. Somewhere a bear wouldn't accidentally get it. And see if they disappear. If they're gone... someones been looking
 

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
Veteran
It almost sounds like a game warden or Forest ranger.....probably has bears tagged and he's watching them and things like that....tagging, trapping etx. He probably knows everything your doing but is a cool older guy. With the box made around the cam and things it's gotta be a game warden or I don't wanna scare you up....a fucking undercover dea cop getting as much evidence as he can to build a good case. If it was a hunter that far off the path they wouldn't have built this lock box over the cam I don't think. Hunters would just put up a cam and go. These rangers and cops get paid by the hr and would take the time to build a box and screw around tinkering with something like that. I think a hunter would put up a cheap $30 trail cam and work on a tree stand or blind instead of all that lock box stuff to put a cam in. I'd 100% buy me a few cams and put around to try and figure out who this is.

C'mon guys act like a nerd in the wilderness ???? Lol I don't think with a weed patch 100-200yds from a locked up cam that's gonna fly especially in KY sorry. It's 99% that whoevers cam this is already knows the gig and has been watching along time. The antler under the tarp is probably when it was found. I really feel it's a game warden that's only worried about his bears....at least I'm hoping. Anybody besides a ranger or cop would've probably took something or told a bunch of there friends and they would've come and took something.

If he was able to take the cam I don't see how it would be theft if he returned it ??? Like I said I don't like to take things but if he could get ahold of that cam there's no question he'd have to take it to try to see who watching him. He's in KY...it's ILLEGAL guys to grow in KY. His ass is fucked if they catch him over there. Guys I know it's legal for a lot to grow like a scrub or flower just like cannabis. But in the south it's very illegal. I'm sure if I was in a legal state I'd probably not think it was that big a deal to be spotted going to a guerilla patch.

Please KY don't act like a nerd goof-assin around this cam. I'm not saying my advice is correct but jesus why would he chase butterfly's and act like he's taking pics of trees now??? We can help KY better than this guys....I don't wanna do him a injustice or advice that's gonna maybe land him in jail. I'm sorry to be harse guys but this is VERY VERY serious matter and as KYs friends we gotta try to help him with serious advice. Again I'm not saying taking a trail cam is right but sometimes you gotta do things that need done. I apologize guys I'm not trying to be mean but this is serious. I'm praying this is somebody who isn't concerned about your grow.
 

PDX Dopesmoker

Active member
…C'mon guys act like a nerd in the wilderness ???? Lol I don't think with a weed patch 100-200yds from a locked up cam that's gonna fly especially in KY sorry.…

Are you trying to tell me that I was pulled off that ridiculous birdwatcher act dozens of times for no good reason at all? Man that is embarassing. I though I was being smart and clever and sneaky. I even went to the trouble to learn a lot of stuff about birds to be more convincing.
 

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
Veteran
Are you trying to tell me that I was pulled off that ridiculous birdwatcher act dozens of times for no good reason at all? Man that is embarassing. I though I was being smart and clever and sneaky. I even went to the trouble to learn a lot of stuff about birds to be more convincing.


Lol it would probably work right ??? Or it did. I dunno man I feel for KY . If they didn't already have him on cam acting like he was sneaking to his weed patch lol. It's not funny by no means I'm sorry, but that may work but I don't know many guys in KY that act foolish in the Mtns. These are manly gun carrying redneck folks basically. These rednecks would call the cops if they saw a guy in the woods catching butterflies probably. Again guys I apologize I'm not trying to be a smart ass. My advice might be the worst of any. But without knowing how long, how many pics, and who the hecks cam it is.....makes this scary and very unsafe for our buddy KY. Just wish we could help more or know he was gonna be ok and his hard work on the grow also would pay off. I'm hoping the best. At least wouldn't you guys think he should buy a few cheap cams and set out to try and see who's cam it is ???? That's about all he can really do that's not criminal:tiphat:
 

wvkindbud38

Elite Growers Club
Veteran
A few years ago I left a crop because I thought someone on a quad saw me from across the field when I had a small flashlight going and was taking flash pictures. I came back January 16 and they were dried and not moldy at all. Was good smoke actually. Cured outside! Must have been a dry fall!


Yeah it would be best to night time garden there from now on. Or you could leave it until mid January! Keep fighting the good fight!


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This is probably the best advice....just say to hell with it and abandon it. I turned the lights out indoors and left a few plants in soil and come back a couple months later and the weed was great....indoors though. Might wanna consider the options. I dunno how big his outdoor grow is but it's pretty big in he's got drying racks and shit there. It's gonna be hard to leave I'm sure....if it's even a option. I'm way to old for prison but I'd hate to lose a big grow
 

PDX Dopesmoker

Active member
Lol it would probably work right ??? Or it did. I dunno man I feel for KY . If they didn't already have him on cam acting like he was sneaking to his weed patch lol. It's not funny by no means I'm sorry, but that may work but I don't know many guys in KY that act foolish in the Mtns. These are manly gun carrying redneck folks basically. These rednecks would call the cops if they saw a guy in the woods catching butterflies probably. Again guys I apologize I'm not trying to be a smart ass. My advice might be the worst of any. But without knowing how long, how many pics, and who the hecks cam it is.....makes this scary and very unsafe for our buddy KY. Just wish we could help more or know he was gonna be ok and his hard work on the grow also would pay off. I'm hoping the best. At least wouldn't you guys think he should buy a few cheap cams and set out to try and see who's cam it is ???? That's about all he can really do that's not criminal:tiphat:


Yeah I grew up in Virginia just outside of DC, there are for sure a lot more fools in the DC suburbs than there are in KY. I was one of them, I'll never know if I was being crafty or retarded with the birdwatching act, but that is fine by me, I already got what I wanted out of the situation a long time ago - healthy marijuana plants and no rap sheet.
You're probably right about 20th century suburban disguises not being functional in 21st century rural Kentucky. God willing that camera is just some wilderness study run by university types, but you can't depend on that, its a tricky situation for sure.
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
C'mon guys act like a nerd in the wilderness ???? Lol I don't think with a weed patch 100-200yds from a locked up cam that's gonna fly especially in KY sorry.
Yup. I've read about one dude who was rushed by LEO while he was in the patch and was let go by simply yelling "I'm sorry I'm sorry.... I was only going to take a bit."
Another grower I know personally wasn't so luck when he told the cops, I thought you were a bear.

When you're in shit, the only useful tool you have is to use doubt.
 
If you do go back, take a photo of the camera/ box that way it may be able to be identified as to who it belongs to?? Game warden, sheriff, etc.

Any chance to put a cam of your own near the trail intersection....away from the grow?

A nerd bird watcher sure as hell wouldn't be in the mountains of EKY...maybe a ginsing hunter at a certain time of year...but no explanation a nerd gives would even fly. Might work closer to civilization, but not out there.

Be safe.

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