Antique Strains

BagseedSamurai · Mar 15, 2006

Does anyone know where I might be able to acquire seeds for the more antique strains such as Lambs Breath, The Golds, ect?

JimmyEatWorld · Mar 15, 2006

Lambsbreath is not a strain. Is just a word ,used mostly in Jamaica, to describe fine sinsemilla.

As for the Golds, some seedbanks have some CGs, dunno if they're the real deal ...

DocLeaf · Mar 15, 2006

yo dudes it's 'lambs bread' (figurative bread used in sacrament... food for the mind)

Jah, ras tafari :joint:

br26 · Mar 15, 2006

During the 1980s heyday, the annual wholesale value of Jamaica's ganja crop exceeded US$1.5 billion, and the trade had tacit approval at the government level. Nonetheless, since 1986 the Jamaican government has cracked down on drug trading at the behest of the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA). The DEA claims that Jamaica's ganja production has fallen by 80%, and that exports have fallen by two-thirds.

The strongest varieties are Burr, Cotton, and Lamb's Breath, which are marketed in the USA as sinsi (short for sinsemilla, Spanish for seedless).

DocLeaf · Mar 15, 2006

did a lamb sneeze on the plant??? lol :biglaugh:

The lambs are from Jah's (Gods) flock.

In christianity, with acts of sacrament (holy communion) the bread is broken (the body) alongside wine (the blood) which is foretaken. This anglo-Jew/Christian act is associated with the Last Supper... steeped in esoteric ritual; knots in table cloths, hola rolls not bread, fish knifes, and so on,,,

Anyhow, since Rastafari pray beyond the walls of the mainstream church, the yout and the elder are (or were in history as oppressed peoples/slave-class) forbade from the taking of the bread! (more importantly the colonialists wanted all the wine to themselves me thinks... :chin:

) ?

Anyhow,,, Rasta mon and Rasta woman (Jah's flock) smoke the erb (bread), as sacrament to Jah, Ras tafari (the king of the fari).

The lambs bread is the erb smoked as a meditative aid, during communion, and thereafter... much like praying with ya eyes open wide... seen

Jah bless praise erb... the Queen of the Jungle :joint:

erb, roots n culture, dL

Guest · Mar 15, 2006

KONA GOLD

dociron · Mar 15, 2006

Captain Jack?

Thank You for your time and effort. :respect:

I grew out a OPT x Lowryder this last year.
I also have a few other seed stock to run

You made my search a bit easier.........
For that,, Thank You Sir......................."iron" :wave:

Guest · Jun 11, 2006

yes, thanks for wasting your life for our benefit :wave:

I thoroughly enjoyed reading up on the classic strains.

zamalito · Jun 11, 2006

Thanks for the links cap'n

Doc, I learn something from you every day

GCannabiogen calls the blue mountain jamaican used to breed caribe "lambsbread'. Its a lambsbread x (lambsbread nl5). They're normally notIf you look around they're available in pure form. Hill temple collective from gypsy, Reefermanseeds.com and drgreenthumb.com are good places to start. Also the more people trust and know you the more they'll be willing to share with you. One that's easily available that I'm trialing right now is the 303 which is an old australian strain based on papua new guinea gold hawaiian sativa and "wide leafed" strains (could be anything considering many sativas are wide leafed compared to the 303) its bred now by the spice bros and is available from dr.chronic seeds for like 17 pounds (laround $29). Its a quite good deal considering what it is and what people have said about it. Its also supposed to have a quite different high from anything else.

Closet Funk · Jun 11, 2006

When it comes to old school strains Reeferman is the one you want. He carries alot of old school sativas and crosses. Here are a few that I know of.

Senor Garcia (OPT x Panama Red)
Panama Red Skunk (Skunk x Panama Red)
Apple Pie (Acapulco Gold x Nepalese)
Love Potion #1 (Santa Marta Colombian Gold x G13)
Willie Neslon (Vietnamese x Nepalese)
Burmese IBL (Pure landrace sativa)
Manga Haze (Manga Rosa x Haze x Afghan)

I got ahold of some Apple Pie by luck. I want to get LP#1, Senor Garcia, and Willie Nelson.

Reign of Terror · Jun 11, 2006

if you ask me, burmese is not a sativa, i dont know why its even considered it

Closet Funk · Jun 11, 2006

Reign of Terror said:
if you ask me, burmese is not a sativa, i dont know why its even considered it

It's not a Sativa?

I could be wrong but I thought it was.

zamalito · Jun 11, 2006

All the burmese are sold as sativas but I've grown three different burmese and they all seem indica dominant to me. Burma borders north india and southeast asia so it could be a hybrid. The taste and calyx size remind me of a cherry thai but the growth structure and high is more like a good north indian.

Tripco · Jun 12, 2006

zamalito said:
All the burmese are sold as sativas but I've grown three different burmese and they all seem indica dominant to me. Burma borders north india

Exactly.
A while ago, a friend of mine tryied to convince me that Burmese is a indica like plant, but i was stuborn asshole telling him that only sativa phenos comes from Burma. I forgot mountain region in the north of the country.
I'm into palm trees very much (especialy in those from the genus Trachycarpus) and there's some species within this genus that grows only in the mountain regions of northern Himalaya and northern Burma. Almost no other palm tree species can survive harsh conditions of northern Burma. So, it's probably more likely to find indicas there than tropical sativas.

zamalito · Jun 12, 2006

Burma is an intriquing country and culture. Its terrible that the govt is so oppressive and most people with western passports aren't alowed in. I read somewhere that reef got his strain while traveling thailand. He came accross a traveler who had picked it up. When I saw that his had so much indica in it I thought it had been hybridized and wasn't different from older burmese like many of the thai strains have in 15 years become totally different from what they used to be. But I was wrong his burmese really isn't that different from the old burmese. It would be worth asking reeferman because at very first he called it an indica and something made him change his mind.

Neptune · Jun 12, 2006

[tripco]

Palms are not trees.
-they do not have radial growth, a trait that all trees have. IE: you can't
"count the rings" in a palm stump.

They are Palms...

I grew out the g13xBurmese that RM is now selling, I got some thin leaves, stretchy plants, low yielders, AAA quality smoke. Some stinky sticky fruit tropical flavor. Can tell you there is a good chunk of sativa in there.

muddy waters · Jun 12, 2006

so many strains, so little money...

has anyone else downloaded this cannagraphic in jamaica video by the way?
http://torrentspy.com/torrent/682167/International_Cannagraphic_in_Jamaica_XviD_d_k_dence_avi

Closet Funk · Jun 12, 2006

muddy waters said:
so many strains, so little money

I hear ya!

Tripco · Jun 13, 2006

Neptune said:
[tripco]

Palms are not trees.
-they do not have radial growth, a trait that all trees have. IE: you can't
"count the rings" in a palm stump.

They are Palms...

Yes, i know they aren't real trees (even the very respectable nurseries call 'em so). It is just the same mistake like someone says "Banana tree". But i added "tree" to avoid confusion with hands palm. It was realy unnecessary, 'cos i mentioned term "genus" and it was obvious what it's all about. Just my foolish habit. Sorry.

zamalito · Jun 13, 2006

The leaves on the pure burmese I've grown aren't that thin when you compare them to the two landrace sativas that border burma (bangladesh and thai). The burmese are quite a bit shorter in height and the flower structure is much much tighter. Some of the more modern thais have wider leaves and denser flowers but these are fairly recent inventions and I consider the rm burmese to be close to the way burmese was 20 yrs ago. If you look at the genetics of the region of burma you have bangladesh (extreme sativa) thai (extreme sativa). In their traditional forms both of these rarely produce the density or resin indoors that the burmese did and no pure landrace sativa from anywhere near burma is gonna be an eight to ten week flower. The vegetative leaves on the burmese are somewhat narrow about the width of my malawixparvati (also north indian) I'm growing right now, however the bud leaves are quite wide. I'm not gonna try to pretend to know a lot or even a tiny bit about g13 but I thought I read somewhere that some cuts are fairly tall low yielding with medium narrow leaves (like you'd described) but with an indica branching pattern. I've seen sensi mr.nice photos that the plants were quite tall with narrow leaves and low yield/narrow buds. Since g13 is a cut who knows what traits are inheritable from it when combined with other strains. I've been growing the g13bx for a while and it is indica in many of the same ways. That might be why rms decided to cross the two. Also the word indica has come to be synonymous with good high yielding indoor but that simply is not so. One needs merely to look at the many pure indica or afghan varieties carried by dutch seed co's like dutch passion that are meant for outdoors only. These aren't tropical sativas and they are noticeably loose stratchy and low yielding inder artificial light. That being said I definitely agree with you about the flavors. These could not exist without some sativa but there's also a significant hashy component also. This strain is probably one of the oldest indica sativa hybrids.

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