What if I only have one regular ball and a shrunken one? Does that make me a Centrist, or just some dude with asymmetrical nuts?
You only have two balls?!
What if I only have one regular ball and a shrunken one? Does that make me a Centrist, or just some dude with asymmetrical nuts?
You only have two balls?!
night and day between the neo liberalism of today and the classical liberalism of days of yore
Neo Liberalism may be more of an economic philosophy as opposed to Classical Liberalism which is more a political ideology.
I think that it is Social Liberalism that this thread is about or maybe more specifically those Social Conservatives that want to deny peoples personal liberties because they feel more comfortable living under authoritarianism. Half the population is ruled by fear, their nervous systems have primitive wiring. They need a "strong" male figure to rule them. And they need a "them" to define themselves by. They can only see humanity as Us and Them. "Them" is a threat and also in tribal societies conservation of tradition is a key survival strategy. The other half of the populations wiring is geared for civilized or domesticated living where sharing, compromise and cooperation with strangers is a key survival strategy. We are a species in an evolutionary transition and their is a gradient in the Human population from one extreme to the other."
Sorry but you are not correct.
First of all I find it quite amazing how some people write as if they knew things that are highly debatable to say the least as if it were fact. In this sense Americans but also Germans or Westerners in general seem to have a special talent (and as we have seen for the last few hundred years and if you want to look at it deeper maybe even thousands of years) to portray themselves as all knowing, of course always with a certain spin to their worldview and a certain line of thought that is completely wrong but always presented as right, true, and of course very important to certain characters, superior.
I am sorry to tell you, but you have it (another very common trait among certain character types) wired the wrong way, where the blue wire should be you have the green and where the green wire should be you have the blue.
It is the complete opposite of what is true.
Civilization (or rather what people educated and brought up in a capitalist society, and with capitalist I mean also the state-capitalist societies and all the other commoditiy producing states, states using labour, money etc. in general, the modern state so to speak, which all ground in the liberal doctrin etc., where was I... what people educated in a capitalist system like to call civilization, even though it is of course a self proclaimed euphemism for barbarianism and fascism...
Civilization is the problem and illness that brings people people to behave unsolidarily (competition is good... fight to survive...there are only individuals, no society... might makes right etc.), while "wild" or "native" societies are based on sharing, solidarity, no competition etc.
All of this can and was already shown by Anthropologists, Ethnologists, Historians, Sociologists etc. and if looked at by members of our system with an open, non ideological and non-psychotic and insane way, would spring to mind and to the body even observed without the help from studies, because we are still human and still have a little piece left in us to see the truth, if truth wants to be seen.
And with truth I don't mean the Trump truth, Christian (and thereby I include all the christian sect of Islam) or the American truth or the capitalist truth or any other ideological and psychotic truth but the truth, that the Earth is a planet, we are bodies on this planet, this planet was a forest, before it was destroyed by psychotic morons thinking that the ideas and orders of others and little pieces of paper have more value than their own life and what they can see with their own eyes.
The truth that we are not by birth uncivilized and need to be domesticated to live "correctly" but it is in fact the other way round, domestication leads to the problems you associate with "uncivilized" societies and people.
Whatever, just wanted to say that you are wrong and don't have a clue what you are talking about, but I am sure that won't disturb you one bit and you will keep on telling idiotic tales just like the majority believes the lies that have now become their own lies and they don't even notice it anymore.
Neo Liberalism may be more of an economic philosophy as opposed to Classical Liberalism which is more a political ideology.
I think that it is Social Liberalism that this thread is about or maybe more specifically those Social Conservatives that want to deny peoples personal liberties because they feel more comfortable living under authoritarianism. Half the population is ruled by fear, their nervous systems have primitive wiring. They need a "strong" male figure to rule them. And they need a "them" to define themselves by. They can only see humanity as Us and Them. "Them" is a threat and also in tribal societies conservation of tradition is a key survival strategy. The other half of the populations wiring is geared for civilized or domesticated living where sharing, compromise and cooperation with strangers is a key survival strategy. We are a species in an evolutionary transition and their is a gradient in the Human population from one extreme to the other."
Sorry but you are not correct.
First of all I find it quite amazing how some people write as if they knew things that are highly debatable to say the least as if it were fact. In this sense Americans but also Germans or Westerners in general seem to have a special talent (and as we have seen for the last few hundred years and if you want to look at it deeper maybe even thousands of years) to portray themselves as all knowing, of course always with a certain spin to their worldview and a certain line of thought that is completely wrong but always presented as right, true, and of course very important to certain characters, superior.
I am sorry to tell you, but you have it (another very common trait among certain character types) wired the wrong way, where the blue wire should be you have the green and where the green wire should be you have the blue.
It is the complete opposite of what is true.
Civilization (or rather what people educated and brought up in a capitalist society, and with capitalist I mean also the state-capitalist societies and all the other commoditiy producing states, states using labour, money etc. in general, the modern state so to speak, which all ground in the liberal doctrin etc., where was I... what people educated in a capitalist system like to call civilization, even though it is of course a self proclaimed euphemism for barbarianism and fascism...
Civilization is the problem and illness that brings people people to behave unsolidarily (competition is good... fight to survive...there are only individuals, no society... might makes right etc.), while "wild" or "native" societies are based on sharing, solidarity, no competition etc.
All of this can and was already shown by Anthropologists, Ethnologists, Historians, Sociologists etc. and if looked at by members of our system with an open, non ideological and non-psychotic and insane way, would spring to mind and to the body even observed without the help from studies, because we are still human and still have a little piece left in us to see the truth, if truth wants to be seen.
And with truth I don't mean the Trump truth, Christian (and thereby I include all the christian sect of Islam) or the American truth or the capitalist truth or any other ideological and psychotic truth but the truth, that the Earth is a planet, we are bodies on this planet, this planet was a forest, before it was destroyed by psychotic morons thinking that the ideas and orders of others and little pieces of paper have more value than their own life and what they can see with their own eyes.
The truth that we are not by birth uncivilized and need to be domesticated to live "correctly" but it is in fact the other way round, domestication leads to the problems you associate with "uncivilized" societies and people.
Whatever, just wanted to say that you are wrong and don't have a clue what you are talking about, but I am sure that won't disturb you one bit and you will keep on telling idiotic tales just like the majority believes the lies that have now become their own lies and they don't even notice it anymore.
Over population is the problem, civilization is a by product of population growth.
If you read more carefully and where less reactionary you would see that I was referring to how we as Humans interact with strangers. Tribal societies are based on a "Us and Them" world view. Sharing may be common amongst the group but not amongst strangers.
Domestication leads to many problems, that is evident.
I was speaking generally, as it is as you know a very complex subject.
"Sorry but you are not correct.
First of all I find it quite amazing how some people write as if they knew things that are highly debatable to say the least as if it were fact. In this sense Americans but also Germans or Westerners in general seem to have a special talent (and as we have seen for the last few hundred years and if you want to look at it deeper maybe even thousands of years) to portray themselves as all knowing"
slightly hypocritical?
just to clarify a little bit further... if you would let the already domesticated people and citizens of nation states (the nation --- another ideological construct a delusion, a lie, a trap for all the little domesticated little bees to fall into and behave how their masters want them to behave --- slave planet) be free now after thousands of years of domestication in some cases not quite as long but still as destructive, then of course they would not be "free" and "uncivilized" anymore because it is already too deeply embedded in their behaviour and thinking.
There are probably no really "free" people left on this planet or rather people that are free of certain thought patterns and behavioral patterns that could erect a stable original human society.
All has been tainted and Liberalism (as the root of all modern ideologies like communism etc.) is a big factor that brought this about.
I suppose it all comes down to how you personally define freedom.
There never was a stable original Human society. We have always been adapting to the pressures of the environment like everything else.
You created a new account to mask your "identity" and then instead of backing up your attack on social liberalism you say that its too much work to explain yourself. Just a scared fascist it seems. Thank you for providing an example for the point I was trying to make.
You created a new account to mask your "identity" and then instead of backing up your attack on social liberalism you say that its too much work to explain yourself. Just a scared fascist it seems. Thank you for providing an example for the point I was trying to make.
i made an account on icmag to discuss politics