4400watts in a 1 or 2 bedroom house need advice

[Kinderfeld]

Shes smart enough to set up a 32k grow yet dumb enough to go around telling people about it hahaha.

Yea...wtf? Why all this he said she said bullshit. People are so full of shit like I already posted. I guess they just like to brag or are in that 'baggy jean,t shirt' phase, I am not sure but if they tell you about it, I would call them a liar and wonder why they are telling anyone that, so I would also question their security. Of course if it is just some aquatint and their showing you that, it would seriously raise some red flags.

Of course I believe you amstel. 6-8 ounces off a 400 is easily doable. I got 6 my first try with a 400 and that was with 2 week veg FROM SEED, 6-7 inch tall plants. Now I veg 6-8 weeks from seed and get 2-3 zips per plant with 4 plants. Usually end up with 10-12 ozs. I top these plants. I tried yesprops method of stuffing as many as I can and I got less. It was more work, with less veg time, but I'd rather flower fully mature plants than try to quickly flower immature shit.

I also ran from clone 4 plants vegged 6 weeks. Gave me 8-10 zips. I am sure if I vegged 4 clones for 8 weeks I would reach my goal of a pound on a 400 which is just slightly above 1g/watt. But each clone is just another plant to add to the risk, not to mention a keeping a mother somewhere. If I were perpetual I'd definitely keep a mom. But I am happy with my 10-12, and these are with real connoisseur strains, not some big bud or top44 bullshit, all in soil not coco.

norcal instead of coming in here saying your getting a lot of shit for this, why not ask yourself why? Why have more members told you it's not a good idea than ones that have and even ones that have say they are not sure. What would be the reason. I think you came in here asking this question to get an answer you WANT to hear. Yea people get away with 15ks but have you ever asked them what kind of setup they have? It could be a two story 5 bdrm house they own somewhere up in the mountains for all you know, and in that is very doable. What are you going to do about smell? What if your landlord stops by? Your renting, and A LOT of different rules apply to renters. So please bro stop trying to read what you want...if most the people in the thread are giving you shit for it its not out of hate for ya bro its because well, it probably just isn't a good idea!

Also like said if ANYONE in real life is shooting off their mouth about any grow but especially one involving thousands in electricity bills I would question their ability to be secure about it let alone their ability to run that kind of operation, they are just running their mouths....now if you best friend for 15 years that's been selling you 200 ozs of kind bud for 15 years all of a sudden told you his op, that's a different story.

 

[Amstel Light]

Of course I believe you amstel.

ThCx man! but i meant that they did not believe i incorporated coco--clay--dwc.. i posted the pics and they think it is hillarious hehehahhehaheher./e/r.....she had 2-3 more weeks left but was bagseed and was herming on me..i shoulda got 12-14 lol....


JUST DO IT PURPS!!!

 

[Yes4Prop215]

Of course I believe you amstel. 6-8 ounces off a 400 is easily doable. I got 6 my first try with a 400 and that was with 2 week veg FROM SEED, 6-7 inch tall plants. Now I veg 6-8 weeks from seed and get 2-3 zips per plant with 4 plants. Usually end up with 10-12 ozs. I top these plants. I tried yesprops method of stuffing as many as I can and I got less. It was more work, with less veg time, but I'd rather flower fully mature plants than try to quickly flower immature shit.

Yea im still trying to find out whats best, go for big plants with big yeild but only 4 under a 400, or try and stuff 16-20 smaller plants under a 400 that yeild 3/4 zip each. My first try i got 8 ounces under a 400 with 9 plants with under two weeks veg. Multiple that by 3 more 400s yeilding the same about you can get two pounds off 1600 watts. Mr norcal was talking about pulling 7 grand in cash off 2600 watts, so theres about a 1000 dollar or 1000 watt difference somewhere in there. Off 2600 you should be yeilding at least 2.5 pounds which is much more than 7 grand unless your wholesalin.

I guess the point is, especially here in the bay area, EVERYONE AND THEIR MOMS IS ON TO THIS. I hear kids blabbing about setting up grows everyday, moving weight to clubs, moving pounds, blah blah blah. Kids in the bay area are so full of talk sometimes. Granted Norcappurps has at least grown for five years and has some connections in the business, but still, this whole scenario is old as fuck and has been talked about so many times.




Good luck renting a house though norcal, landlords in oakland are totally naive about single males renting entire houses with nothing but cash LOL. Do you have paystubs? cosigners? rental history? Two months rent + security depost can easily come to 5 grand or more, not to mention moving costs, equipment costs, etc. You cant tell your landlord you intend to pay your rent with marijuana profits so i hope you have some sort of cover. Who knows, i got unlucky my landlord is a faggot who tries to drop by once every few months, dude has literally been at the grow room door begging us to open it for him. He is the main reason im only running 1500 watts right now and not 2500+.

my boy out in contra costa got lucky 4bdrm 1600 a month landlord lives in lake tahoe, but he had cosigners to help him get that spot, and guess what, after losing his first 50 plants to mildew he hasnt even set up another grow, which is awesome for me if you get my drift.

Fuck it, im goin down to santa cruz for the day, see what they are working with down south. Best of wishes big baller.

 

[The Bling]

dude why not run 2 lights on movers or 3 vertical and be a little safer like T5's to veg 1-2weeks then goin to vertical ebenflow use all the light bet you do over 8 which is the same as 2# per light under the 4k which is good in my opinion most i know are happy with 1# per only now your whole setup is running 4k but really everyone i know just pays their bill on time i know kids who run 80 lights at a time all Ten K's all in 3-4 bedrooms actually he got pulled over in-between houses once with like 8# on him they got the house he was coming from he had a great lawer on retainer he was out on bail later that day working again the cops said he only had 3# on him and NO CASH so thanks to dirty pigs he got off but the point is the It wasn't his electric bill that got him busted it was his flashy car driving from club to club all day long.

 

[El Vexilix]

This is just out of the box thinking to help on a full grow house operation . I'm not trying to be funny or waste anybodies time . But I am high though .

What about pulling a film shooting permit , like porn . They use tons of power too , like the lights and all the recording gear . Create a fake porn company and start shooting at anyhouse you desire .... I mean growing with no worries about the power .

or instead of a house , a bodega or a shop at an industrial park . Some lease at a price that is cheaper than a home and offer lots of space and more power than a typical home .

 

[Norcalpurps]

Yea...wtf? Why all this he said she said bullshit. People are so full of shit like I already posted. I guess they just like to brag or are in that 'baggy jean,t shirt' phase, I am not sure but if they tell you about it, I would call them a liar and wonder why they are telling anyone that, so I would also question their security. Of course if it is just some aquatint and their showing you that, it would seriously raise some red flags.

Of course I believe you amstel. 6-8 ounces off a 400 is easily doable. I got 6 my first try with a 400 and that was with 2 week veg FROM SEED, 6-7 inch tall plants. Now I veg 6-8 weeks from seed and get 2-3 zips per plant with 4 plants. Usually end up with 10-12 ozs. I top these plants. I tried yesprops method of stuffing as many as I can and I got less. It was more work, with less veg time, but I'd rather flower fully mature plants than try to quickly flower immature shit.

I also ran from clone 4 plants vegged 6 weeks. Gave me 8-10 zips. I am sure if I vegged 4 clones for 8 weeks I would reach my goal of a pound on a 400 which is just slightly above 1g/watt. But each clone is just another plant to add to the risk, not to mention a keeping a mother somewhere. If I were perpetual I'd definitely keep a mom. But I am happy with my 10-12, and these are with real connoisseur strains, not some big bud or top44 bullshit, all in soil not coco.

norcal instead of coming in here saying your getting a lot of shit for this, why not ask yourself why? Why have more members told you it's not a good idea than ones that have and even ones that have say they are not sure. What would be the reason. I think you came in here asking this question to get an answer you WANT to hear. Yea people get away with 15ks but have you ever asked them what kind of setup they have? It could be a two story 5 bdrm house they own somewhere up in the mountains for all you know, and in that is very doable. What are you going to do about smell? What if your landlord stops by? Your renting, and A LOT of different rules apply to renters. So please bro stop trying to read what you want...if most the people in the thread are giving you shit for it its not out of hate for ya bro its because well, it probably just isn't a good idea!

Also like said if ANYONE in real life is shooting off their mouth about any grow but especially one involving thousands in electricity bills I would question their ability to be secure about it let alone their ability to run that kind of operation, they are just running their mouths....now if you best friend for 15 years that's been selling you 200 ozs of kind bud for 15 years all of a sudden told you his op, that's a different story.

two or three people said it wasnt a good idea so im not sure what u mean by every1 or most of the people on here said its not a good idea. if someone tells me to "just go and do it, u will be fine" with no other info or hands on exp. in 4k+ grows, ima take that advice with a grain of salt. The same go's for if someone said "your dumb and save your money cause your going to jail." there has been more people on here telling me to do it because they have done the same or bigger with no problems....hell for all i no the people saying dont do it are most likely the ones growing with 2k systems or smaller.To be honest with u broham you grow 400watt system (extremely small) so your advice i cant really take to heart cause i have been there done that. so i guess what i have been doing wrong is listening to people that have not grown 4k or more maybe i should just PM all the commercail growers on this site and take their advice 100%. But i did change my mine a little im not going to do a 1bedroom house ima do a 2+ bedroom.

 

[Norcalpurps]

dude why not run 2 lights on movers or 3 vertical and be a little safer like T5's to veg 1-2weeks then goin to vertical ebenflow use all the light bet you do over 8 which is the same as 2# per light under the 4k which is good in my opinion most i know are happy with 1# per only now your whole setup is running 4k but really everyone i know just pays their bill on time i know kids who run 80 lights at a time all Ten K's all in 3-4 bedrooms actually he got pulled over in-between houses once with like 8# on him they got the house he was coming from he had a great lawer on retainer he was out on bail later that day working again the cops said he only had 3# on him and NO CASH so thanks to dirty pigs he got off but the point is the It wasn't his electric bill that got him busted it was his flashy car driving from club to club all day long.

Now thats what i mean by advice that helps me out and kinda opens my eyes up a bit more. if your boy can do all that and get away with it (beside getting pulled over) why in they hell cant i do a small ass 4400wtt grow in a 2bedroom for 3 or 6 months then get the hell out of that house. that is what i keep telling myself.

 

[Norcalpurps]

whats also on my "to do list" is to go to the busted threads and see what the hell people did wrong during their grows

 

[Norcalpurps]

Really is that how it works?if y'all are overstocked over there.... i know a guy who knows a guy......

look purp if you can grow legally there but are limited to plant numbers .....
go KRUSTY BABY!!!!! thats all i would do over there...you could have 10K and still be legit.... hey can you post a link to the 37K op...thats my dream, once a year.... that's it plus my trees if im in cali HAHAHAHAAAAA MOFO!! YEA GO FOR IT MAN... at least dwc vegged 2-3 weeks....

Go to advance nutrients displaced members forum and his name is hunterwoundedft his on the second page. I have been following this guy and taking his advice seens 2004 back when advance nutrients had their own forum, hunterwoundedft...man this cat is my idol lol! he is a beast all of his grows are f@#kn massive. 15k is his smallest grows i've seen him do, but yea check out his 37k grow that he GOT AWAY WITH (to all u haters out there notice the caps lol) done in a warehouse and with no generator i think he said that he had that grow going for a year then he retired, he spent $150,000 on everything. but yea check out his grow show the guy has big balls!

 

[Norcalpurps]

This is just out of the box thinking to help on a full grow house operation . I'm not trying to be funny or waste anybodies time . But I am high though .

What about pulling a film shooting permit , like porn . They use tons of power too , like the lights and all the recording gear . Create a fake porn company and start shooting at anyhouse you desire .... I mean growing with no worries about the power .

or instead of a house , a bodega or a shop at an industrial park . Some lease at a price that is cheaper than a home and offer lots of space and more power than a typical home .

LOOOOL!!! F@#k bro you are high!! that was funny man thanx for the advice.....but yea may be i could tell the power company im using so much electricity because my pornstars cant nut so we have to keep the lights on until they do lol

 

[El Vexilix]

Hey , I dig hunter too . As for me , I won't post a do it or not type of post . I'll just blur out ways that i've done it by myself or with investors . If you want to take the advice and improve on them a lil or knock on it , go right ahead , as long as you see the true intentions .

Passed by a house that was doing a reality tv show or something and they had a GRIP of lights in and out of it . Kinda gave me the idea .

 

[Kinderfeld]

To be honest with u broham you grow 400watt system (extremely small) so your advice i cant really take to heart cause i have been there done that.

That's what I have now in the present time, yes. But you don't know my past or who I know or help in my area, so think a little harder. You think real commercial peoples pulling real weight even fuck with indoors? They would laugh at any 'wattage' you can stuff together up under a roof, and on top of that pay $ for. Quality comes from maintaining and with proper skills/strains/experience outdoors can match indoors, easily. I have no need to go bigger, as for myself, but I love to help those, who are honest people with theirs. I grow personal but I think most commercial peeps are nasty, greedy, dishonest scum that remind me of fucking car salesman with their shit, flapping their fat lips about their nasty wet 'purps' for 70 an 1/8th, just want to pop them in the fucking jaw... most the time that is. The ones I know, in real life, are not. But most are, just the way it is. As for the idea of you PMing a few people is a good one since I mentioned it a few pages back.

 

[Macster2]

Holy Crap dude,that's a sweeping statement and a pretty insulting one at that. I grow commercially just to help ends meet and I consider myself a fairly upstanding guy and I can say I've been screwed much more frequently then the reverse.So that said all I can add is FUCK YOU

 

[SneakySneaky]

this guy is a moron, and will surely end up in jail.
why didnt anyone tell him this ?

i wouldnt call him a moron, just needs more planning before moving up to the "big" leagues. i personally run 4400 in flower (2 1k's and 4 600's) and never had a problem with power. i gotta 3 bedroom house w over 500 gallons of salt water tanks with over 1200 watts of MH just over my tanks! downside to this many tanks is the ominous blue glow of my house lol i just crack the windows and let the neighbors see the tanks sometimes so they dont get suspicious (even if they did im medical)

for a 4400 watt setup, you could do 4 4x4 tables with 1k over each table or 2 600's. get a 1k on a mover for veg or 3 8 light tek5 lights like the sunsystem ones. ive run 4400 in a 10x11 room before, if you know how to vent and seal your outside ac from light leaks your fine.

if i were u and your scared of getting busted. start with 2x 600's and a small hydrohut and see how that goes, and gradually add more lights. if landlord comes snoopn, just say you do photography and thats your dark room with a sealed floor so your cant spill chemicals on their floor and theyll love u forever lol

PS. if your planning on running 4400 watts BUY A 50 AMP BREAKER BOX!

 

[rave420]

yea,..huh u can stop talking now

bwahahah man chill out.
Don't be so uptight man, he was giving you some real advice for sure.

Have the two grow-rooms on alternating 12/12 schedule, make sure you scrub your air before exhausting it and i don't see a threat to your grow.

btw: do your parents know what you do? This is a serious question! It's nice to have them on your side, i know my dad is always ready to bail me out in case shit happens (and the other way around of course)!

 

[Norcalpurps]

bwahahah man chill out.
Don't be so uptight man, he was giving you some real advice for sure.

Have the two grow-rooms on alternating 12/12 schedule, make sure you scrub your air before exhausting it and i don't see a threat to your grow.

btw: do your parents know what you do? This is a serious question! It's nice to have them on your side, i know my dad is always ready to bail me out in case shit happens (and the other way around of course)!

tht cat is a bitch. and i cant stand people that stereotype others.....he acts like people that wear baggy pants are ignorant and uneducated. i dont wanna here anything that punk has to say.

 

[Norcalpurps]

i wouldnt call him a moron, just needs more planning before moving up to the "big" leagues. i personally run 4400 in flower (2 1k's and 4 600's) and never had a problem with power. i gotta 3 bedroom house w over 500 gallons of salt water tanks with over 1200 watts of MH just over my tanks! downside to this many tanks is the ominous blue glow of my house lol i just crack the windows and let the neighbors see the tanks sometimes so they dont get suspicious (even if they did im medical)

for a 4400 watt setup, you could do 4 4x4 tables with 1k over each table or 2 600's. get a 1k on a mover for veg or 3 8 light tek5 lights like the sunsystem ones. ive run 4400 in a 10x11 room before, if you know how to vent and seal your outside ac from light leaks your fine.

if i were u and your scared of getting busted. start with 2x 600's and a small hydrohut and see how that goes, and gradually add more lights. if landlord comes snoopn, just say you do photography and thats your dark room with a sealed floor so your cant spill chemicals on their floor and theyll love u forever lol

PS. if your planning on running 4400 watts BUY A 50 AMP BREAKER BOX!

yea man just another hater that acts like no one grows over 4400k lol i dont get these people if you have exp. in growing 4k+ grows then comment please but if not then why even waste time commenting.....but anyways thanks for the advice it makes me more comfortable doing it.

Holy Crap dude,that's a sweeping statement and a pretty insulting one at that. I grow commercially just to help ends meet and I consider myself a fairly upstanding guy and I can say I've been screwed much more frequently then the reverse.So that said all I can add is FUCK YOU

i guess that explains why he has such an attitude lol soon as he see's a new post of a rookie commercial grower he gets mad. i guess people that dont have the balls to go commercial themselves get mad at others that do

 

[Norcalpurps]

thanks to all the comments and advice i have decided to grow in a 2bedroom house so i hope it works out for me...but if i get busted then ill have a friend let you all no that it was not a good idea LOL! ( really not funny)

 

[Amstel Light]

how many plants can you grow legally? do you know Krusty?lol

 

[del...]

tht cat is a bitch. and i cant stand people that stereotype others.....he acts like people that wear baggy pants are ignorant and uneducated. i dont wanna here anything that punk has to say.

meaning you wear baggy pants? hehehe, j/k, it doesn't matter wtf you wear...

you got some excellent advice from sneaky and others...i too would advice anyone to start smaller then add to it as needed.