2017 tester run - KC x Zamaldelica fem

[deepwaterdude]

Looking stellar bro!
Be careful with the spots when the budding starts,had some crisping on some tops,had to back up...

Hey, I was just on your thread No doubt about the LEDs; that's why I turned down the HPS. I've got the arrays about 20cm (8") from tops.

Sorry about the pests, bro, you'll get 'em. Your plants don't look worse off, our Zam x KC is looking stellar, as are the others If my ZAM x KC have the same budding style as yours, I'll be a very happy Mr Big McNuggets.

 

[deepwaterdude]

@OT - Good idea for the eyes on the spiders... I could probably find some of those googly puppet eyes... but I'd never visit my grow again with four spiders in there at 10"diameter! Nor would any sane bug, though.

Anyhow, I'm hoping for first flowers in 4 days. Yup, 4 days, not at all random, and I told the girls just that. "Flosers in 4!", I said. Then as they just stood there playing dumb, I reiterated sans toothpick, "Flowers, 4 days, or else". Many eye rolls later we agreed they'd flower when I got things right consistently for a certain period of time; in this case being 2 weeks. They drive a hard bargain, and I think they were trying to provoke me.

I do have quite a cloning operation, pretty badass actually; right now I have the 6 million clones in a glass of water by my bathroom window, until I decide to transfer them to some rooting medium. It sucks, because, as you must imagine, they drain the glass 200,000 times a day, so I'm constantly on call.

 

[orfeas]

Well, here you have 'em, Sir. I feel like they already reacted to the light sched and room darkening. I'm hoping they won't tergiverse around and flower two weeks from now Yep, tergiverse. Not English.

Almost a shame to flower them, they look so good in veg

The blumats are mostly off these days, with 2 gal handwatering for the trough in the AM and a 1/2 gal each for the 3 gal girls, right now at 1.5 EC 1/2 Bloom, 1/2 Grow. Miss Perfect, who's outgrown everyone else in there, seems to be asking for more and in flower will definitely get it. Bring it on, just TRY and outgrow me. ANyway, no more feeding than that at the moment, because they're VERY vigorous and I can't keep up with the $#@ branching. I'm up to about 6,000,000 clones. Less N will help a bit and cutting it out might help them go to flower sometime this month

Inferential thinking led me to sussing out why your plants are kicking... research has shown people tend to behave themselves when watched... now these spiders must be what lush growth is attributed to...not your green fingers

Greetings from the Holy Mountain!

Orpheus

 

[deepwaterdude]

Inferential thinking led me to sussing out why your plants are kicking... research has shown people tend to behave themselves when watched... now these spiders must be what lush growth is attributed to...not your green fingers

Greetings from the Holy Mountain!

Orpheus

Right back atcha, orfeas of the Mountain! It only matters to me that you think they're kicking butt

 

[deepwaterdude]

Ey've got me eyes on you, Zammy Tam!

Ey've got me eyes on you, Zammy Tam!

Really interesting how they're all going to flower together but everyone is very different to my eyes. 2 days sounds about right for flowers, already many pistils, but looks like they'll cross the line as ZAmTam, Straight Lady, Beast, 5-top and Miss Perfect bringing up the rear.
Miss P has become an amazon, and I swear she's been treated the same as everyone, so curious how she'll flower compared to the others. She's the only one that makes me nervous about space, which probably makes me stupid
The Beast is exactly that, much like Miss P with shorter internodes and is stocking up to flower indica style.
5-top is shorter, also much shorter branched, good looking stocky plant. I've pruned her the least, but you'll see the others still have much more branching.
Lady Straight is very attractive and has very long internodes like Miss P. I took two long side branches from her today.
I included photos of a regular/light trimming session, just 6 big leaves and a few clones.

This "Eye on you" stalker post features Zammy Tammy. The surprise with her is that she's NOT stretching almost at all, although producing many a branch, alternating internodes and shooting pistils before the rest. She and Miss P have many second tier branches that I don't want to cull-if they should stop stretching

Here dey is.

 

[deepwaterdude]

2 months from seed update

2 months from seed update

Light change was April 5, tightened about 5 days ago to true 12/12. Some've been stretching like MAD over the last couple of days. 5 top remains smallish but robust, like syd's. Did a little experiment and left the blumats to drip pretty strongly overnight and came back to bigger plants than usual and runoff on the tent floor. It's turning into an Alfred E Neuman grow; What, me worry? Miss Perfect's necks are very pliable, still, so I may bend/supercrop her, which would spread her basically all over the tent. Don't know if I want to go there yet I'm getting a 4 pack of 14w LED bulbs to fill out the spiders minus 2 middles. I've got the HID on 430w.

I included a pic of the plants at 3-4 weeks, probably just after they went in the coco. Anyway, were I a wiser grower looking at them and with this grow method/medium, I'd say it would be excellent to go 3 gal and contain the height/internode length a bit. At least with 5 plants. I could have scrogged 3 in the trough with great success, just wound them all over the tent; 5 complicates things

Beast is 26in over the medium, Zam Tam 29in, Miss P and Lady straight 40in (1m10) and lastly, 5-top at around 16in I hope to be able to still see in a week. I prefer Beast's size for my own anxiety levels. To give you an idea, on 4/8, one week ago, Miss P was 24" over her medium, now 40", Zammy was at 19 or 20", now 29".

 

[Guest]

You're cruising bro!

Excellent skills,they look so beautiful!

 

[deepwaterdude]

You're cruising bro!

Excellent skills,they look so beautiful!

Thanks brother, can't get over it myself. Spend MUCH too much time with these girls in veg just gandering. Good news is I've only taken one branch a day from the tent for a couple of days. I'm slowly cutting myself off from cutting. Tops and lowers are finding light.

 

[Buddler]

I second that they look great dude

 

[deepwaterdude]

Had to break some necks

Had to break some necks

I second that they look great dude

Thanks Budd, I credit the genes and the coco more than anything else

I'm a little deflated/anxious as I supercropped Miss P and Straight Lady; crunch, twist and lay over. Canopy is more even, and I switched out the cooltube for a higher open 400hps. Very warm, so I may switch that out w/the 160wLED panel that'll cover the center 2x2. Anyhoo, here's what they look like right after crop, I'm praying to the gods they won't punish me for this one.

 

[Buddler]

Don't worry they will turn into nice big buds probly have to bend them again are u using trellis at all ? good stuff.B

 

[deepwaterdude]

Day after supercrop+bangi haze notes

Day after supercrop+bangi haze notes

Don't worry they will turn into nice big buds probly have to bend them again are u using trellis at all ? good stuff.B

You're right, Buddler, they appreciated the reshaping, recovered and bushed out nicely. Phew No trellis, but I've thought about scrogging the back 3. That said, they look like they're hardening up. Canopy gives me a serious boner.

After 12 days of 12/12 (ish) they're all basically in flower, except maybe 5-top, who's slower. She was the bean I thought wasn't going to make it, may have something to do with her semi-dwarfism.
I've upped the HID to 600w to be able to lift the spiders a bit and get better coverage... The Kali China is supposed to like intensity/heat in early flower, and this'll do for the moment, but am ordering a couple more spiders, I think 5-way splitters instead of 7, to cover the middle of the tent and Get rid of the HID, which could be a decent t-shirt.

Man they look good setting their buds; great work/selection, my compliments to the Ace crew. One of the two Zam x KC beans I have left will be a small outdoor plant this summer. The sun does wonders; my green lemon soda panama diosa outdoors is the best smoke in the cabinet. Beat indoor mom.

I want to say a word about the Bangi Haze I grew indoors, harvested November 4. I still have +3oz. as I found her a bit anxiety producing for the first hour or so, uncomfortable. She is also the best smelling pot ever when smoked-though she was garlicky in flower. There's also some lemon there. Anyway, I upped the dose the other day, and she is STRONG. Surprised me enough to push the ashtray away a few times. Other people I've given a sample have not had any anxiety, so it's me on this one. Nice plant, vegged outdoors. Coupla pics harvest day.

 

[Old Toker]

Plants are looking fantastic DWD. Those Ace genetics, along with your world renown growing skills, really seem to be producing.

..I upped the dose the other day, and she is STRONG. Surprised me enough to push the ashtray away a few times.

DWD pushing the ashtray away....what is the world coming to?

 

[deepwaterdude]

Plants are looking fantastic DWD. Those Ace genetics, along with your world renown growing skills, really seem to be producing.
DWD pushing the ashtray away....what is the world coming to?

I know, I was surprised meself Still on vacation?

 

[Ras Pablo]

The look awesome deepwaterdude!

I hope you're ready for what's coming next.... I think some serious colas

Best vibes

 

[Old Toker]

Still on vacation?

I'm back and everything is OK.
Great to see your grow is really taking off. Nice work!

 

[deepwaterdude]

The look awesome deepwaterdude!

I hope you're ready for what's coming next.... I think some serious colas

Best vibes

Hey, Ras, thanks for the good vibes! It does look like these puppies want to perform

@OT-Good to hear you're back and all's well in the jungle room!

 

[Guest]

Man,they look like they're going berserk !They barely noticed the bending,eh?

What about penetration with the leds?Maybe more pruning/lollipopping
would help with those tall gals of yours if the HID is getting out.(yeah,cool t-shirt alright!)Whatcha think?

I regret not getting Banghi after your report,but I had to leave something out!Sounds/looks killer !

 

[deepwaterdude]

Man,they look like they're going berserk !They barely noticed the bending,eh?

What about penetration with the leds?Maybe more pruning/lollipopping
would help with those tall gals of yours if the HID is getting out.(yeah,cool t-shirt alright!)Whatcha think?

I regret not getting Banghi after your report,but I had to leave something out!Sounds/looks killer !

Hey, syd, yep, Miss P and Lady S were getting carried away, so I had to take measures, but I almost feel like they thanked me for it. There's one branch on Miss P that I may have taken too far and had to bandage. No worries, they seem to be steaming along, like you say

As to penetration, I find that the LEDs are actually better than the 600 when I get them down close to the tops, @15cm or so. Also, the plants are stripped so there's I think less than a foot of plant material to penetrate, and as the littler tops are all getting to the light, more power to 'em. Those that don't find a place get pinched. Again, if I knew the strain took it well, i'd lollipop like hell, but they're just starting to flower, hormones are flowing and I'm satisfied with the canopy... which is a massive understatement for the AWE with which I regard its abundant resilience and great health

This canopy at this point in its evolution is like having a huge rainbow trout on the line; it's exactly why you're standing in the river shivering, but when it starts to run, you're freaked because you know you're in for a wild ride.

 

[Guest]

This canopy at this point in its evolution is like having a huge rainbow trout on the line; it's exactly why you're standing in the river shivering, but when it starts to run, you're freaked because you know you're in for a wild ride.

Yep,I know the feeling.Not with trouts,but you hit the spot

You got me covered with your answer regarding penetration,better let them do their thing now.

As you said,to say you're just satisfied would be a great understatement...