Mezz Mezzrow
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Relative to other solvents how good would 190 proof organic grape alcohol be for making Rick Simpson oil? I think it would be safer for the patient than isopropyl, but would it be as effective?
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We buy 5 gal. cubes of organic EtOH every now and then to make tinctures (not cannabis- well, 99% not cannabis). Sometimes we'll do fairly large orders and sell off extra to students from my wife's herb classes.
I bought some from them a couple years ago, and was swayed from pharmo aaper, our usual supplier, cause they seemed so much groovier. That was a mistake.
It was a subpar product- not at all a clean distillation. They had some sob story about equipment problems, and didn't even ship my order for a couple of weeks after they had my money. I should have returned it, but by then we really needed it, and I convinced myself it wasn't that bad. But it was pretty nasty.
They've probably fixed their issues by now, but they'll never get my business again.
We buy 5 gal. cubes of organic EtOH every now and then to make tinctures (not cannabis- well, 99% not cannabis). Sometimes we'll do fairly large orders and sell off extra to students from my wife's herb classes.
I bought some from them a couple years ago, and was swayed from pharmo aaper, our usual supplier, cause they seemed so much groovier. That was a mistake.
It was a subpar product- not at all a clean distillation. They had some sob story about equipment problems, and didn't even ship my order for a couple of weeks after they had my money. I should have returned it, but by then we really needed it, and I convinced myself it wasn't that bad. But it was pretty nasty.
They've probably fixed their issues by now, but they'll never get my business again.
I've used the quick wash ethanol method for making smokable oil or for making concentrated green dragon. The "quick wash" part is to avoid extracting some of the bad tasting compounds from the plant, from what I understand. If I want to make oil for oral consumption (mixed with coconut oil and put into gelcaps), wouldn't it be beneficial to have a longer extraction process? I used to let batches of green dragon sit in the closet for a month or more just to extract the most I can from the plant. The only downside is the awful taste, which wouldn't matter if it's inside a pill.
I've also made batches with 99% iso (quick wash for smoking or longer extraction for oil to be consumed). For someone making smaller batches, this is much cheaper than using 190 proof Everclear. I don't think there's anything dangerous about using 99% isopropanol as long as you remove all the solvent before consuming.
As I said (but mispelled) in my post above, Pharmco Aaper. They have a huge range of ethanols in various proofs, sources, organic or not, etc...
They are a bit of a pain to deal with at first- you'll have to set up an account. At times they have had minimum orders, or surcharges if you don't meet the minimum.
If Alchemical Solutions is still in business, they must have cleaned up their act by now...
Nice. I see they sell in 25L size - about six and a half gallons. The 200 Proof ethyl alcohol sounds good. Do you know about how much 25L of that runs?
A shitload, I'm sure...
200 proof isn't worth the money for these purposes. EtOH absorbs H20 from the air every time it is exposed to the atmosphere, so under most conditions it won't stay 200 proof for long anyway.
Also, it is really hard to distill off that last couple of percent of water, so some processes actually add benzene to change the physical properties (although the benzene should all boil away during the distillation.
Sorry, went off on an alcohol dissertation-
-what can I say...?
still has the ill effects of chlorophyll overdose. set it in the sun while still dilute in solvent for uv degradation of chlorophyll.
200 proof isn't worth the money for these purposes. EtOH absorbs H20 from the air every time it is exposed to the atmosphere, so under most conditions it won't stay 200 proof for long anyway.