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The Trump Bomber
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so republicans who hate trump are actually left wing? lol
left wing white supremacist is a contradiction. you can't be a fucking liberal and white supremacist or anti semite at the same time. political science definitions literally have no meaning any more i guess.
being critical of israel and disliking zionism =/= hating jews
An analysis of the Global Terrorism Database by researchers at the University of Maryland published in 2017 shows a “sharp increase” in the share of attacks by right-wing extremists, from 6% in the 2000s to 35% in the 2010s. The share of attacks by religious extremists also increased, from 9% to 53% between the two decades.
Meanwhile, the share of attacks by left-wing terrorists and environmentalist extremists dropped from 64% in the 2000s to 12% in the 2010s.
Researchers point out that many recent attacks on US soil are carried out by individuals without any strong links to a terrorist organization—known popularly as “lone wolves.”
The study defines “right-wing extremism” as “violence in support of the belief that personal and/or national way of life is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent,” including anti-globalism, white supremacy, nationalism, suspicion of the government, and beliefs in conspiracies.
An analysis by Quartz of the same Global Terrorism Database confirmed that the trend persisted in 2017, when most attacks in the US were committed by right-wing extremists. Out of 65 incidents last year, 37 were tied to racist, anti-Muslim, homophobic, anti-Semitic, fascist, anti-government, or xenophobic motivations.
That list includes an attack by neo-Nazi extremist James Fields against a crowd of counter-protestors in Charlottesville, which left one person dead. It also includes attacks against a gay bar in Puerto Rico, mosques in Washington, Texas, and Florida, and a vehicle decorated with Jewish iconography in New York.
In the same period, seven attacks were linked to Islamic extremists, and 11 attacks were inspired by left-leaning ideologies.
That right-wing activity is fueling a surge in terrorism in the US. Overall, the US had only six attacks a decade ago, but 65 in 2017. The number of fatalities is also increasing, in contrast to a global decrease in terror attacks.
Terror attacks around the world fell from about 17,000 in 2014 to about 11,000 in 2017. They dropped almost 40% in the Middle East.
When the full horror of the Holocaust was revealed, how disturbed were these corporations and individuals? After the war, they concocted myths of innocence, and the country was only too happy to believe them. But without the complicity of American corporations, Hitler would not have never, ever have been as hellishly effective as he was. In fact Hitler would have not had the wherewithal to even attempt to try and conquer Europe and N. Africa without the massive help he received from the USA!
*The sad facts of the matter Zeez are that several very well known and respected US corporations and hi-profile industrialists and bankers bankrolled and supplied the 3rd Reich before and during the war, either directly or thru subsidiaries. In effect they were making huge sums of money from both sides - and the same bankers invested in both sides too for it was far more profitable to them than backing just one side.
We have seen this type of corporate greed run rife thru many wars, even up to this day with the US and allies training and arming Al-Qaeda, Isis and the Taliban, Al Nusra and a host of other Islamic religious extremists - then sending in the US military to supposedly eradicate them, after using them in proxy wars as allies.
*The sad facts of the matter Zeez are that several very well known and respected US corporations and hi-profile industrialists and bankers bankrolled and supplied the 3rd Reich before and during the war, either directly or thru subsidiaries. In effect they were making huge sums of money from both sides - and the same bankers invested in both sides too for it was far more profitable to them than backing just one side.
We have seen this type of corporate greed run rife thru many wars, even up to this day with the US and allies training and arming Al-Qaeda, Isis and the Taliban, Al Nusra and a host of other Islamic religious extremists - then sending in the US military to supposedly eradicate them, after using them in proxy wars as allies.
geneva_sativa
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but even anyone that has looked into the Oklahoma city deal beyond the nightly news,,,
knows that sheep dipped personnel and the treacherous plans of the people in power
knows that sheep dipped personnel and the treacherous plans of the people in power
No matter how many times people try and spew the fascist right bullshit it remains just that. If you knew anything about fascism you would know Gentile claimed fascism to be the only workable form of socialism. Therefore fascism is a product of leftist ideology... lest we forget national socialism... you know muh natzeeeeeeeeees
Now pick one
>right
>fascism
Hey where did my post go? Of course there were international companies doing business in Germany before the war. Then those businesses were commandeered by the nazis. Same thing in Cuba. Nice Hilton hotel instantly was owned by Fidel. All of Europe, the nazis took everything.
Terrorist - extremist attacks in the USA by far right extremists - should of course be taken seriously - and dealt with harshly - but the number of lives taken and ruined in the USA pale in comparison when you put up the figures of islamic terrorist attacks worldwide - or even those within the borders of individual nations they are most active in.
I consider Islam to be a far right ideology too - and you would also if you were to study its holy books - So many other nations suffer far more than the USA - and many, many more lives are taken and/or ruined in the name of islam than any other terrorist organization on the face of the earth. Below are the stats for just 5 years worldwide - between 2013-2017.
Killings in
the Name of Islam:
2013
During this time period, there were 2832 Islamic attacks in 48 countries, in which 16796 people were killed and 29596 injured.
Killings in
the Name of Islam:
2014:
During this time period, there were 3008 Islamic attacks in 55 countries, in which 32870 people were killed and 27530 injured.
Killings in
the Name of Islam:
2015:
During this time period, there were 2889 Islamic attacks in 53 countries, in which 27640 people were killed and 26169 injured.
Killings in
the Name of Islam:
in 2016.
During this time period, there were 2498 Islamic attacks in 59 countries, in which 21413 people were killed and 26730 injured.
Killings in
the Name of Islam:
2017:
During this time period, there were 2044 Islamic attacks in 61 countries, in which 16386 people were killed and 14360 injured.
* The total comes to 115,105 people killed and 124,385 people injured in that 5 year period.
Here is a link to the 2018 stats so far - many more have been killed - but at least it looks like there will be less this year than the previous years - but still so many lives lost - in the name of the supposed 'religion of peace' -
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2018
** sorry Zeez - I was attempting to delete a double post of mine - and clicked on your last one instead. <smacks himself upside the head>
I consider Islam to be a far right ideology too - and you would also if you were to study its holy books - So many other nations suffer far more than the USA - and many, many more lives are taken and/or ruined in the name of islam than any other terrorist organization on the face of the earth. Below are the stats for just 5 years worldwide - between 2013-2017.
Killings in
the Name of Islam:
2013
During this time period, there were 2832 Islamic attacks in 48 countries, in which 16796 people were killed and 29596 injured.
Killings in
the Name of Islam:
2014:
During this time period, there were 3008 Islamic attacks in 55 countries, in which 32870 people were killed and 27530 injured.
Killings in
the Name of Islam:
2015:
During this time period, there were 2889 Islamic attacks in 53 countries, in which 27640 people were killed and 26169 injured.
Killings in
the Name of Islam:
in 2016.
During this time period, there were 2498 Islamic attacks in 59 countries, in which 21413 people were killed and 26730 injured.
Killings in
the Name of Islam:
2017:
During this time period, there were 2044 Islamic attacks in 61 countries, in which 16386 people were killed and 14360 injured.
* The total comes to 115,105 people killed and 124,385 people injured in that 5 year period.
Here is a link to the 2018 stats so far - many more have been killed - but at least it looks like there will be less this year than the previous years - but still so many lives lost - in the name of the supposed 'religion of peace' -
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2018
** sorry Zeez - I was attempting to delete a double post of mine - and clicked on your last one instead. <smacks himself upside the head>
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SandyFantasyman
Why the fuck would I want anyone to think I was from the USA?
Also, that is the way the word is spelled. Just because you yanks decided to change it, doesn't mean you're correct.
Also, who made you a pro?
Where did you graduate from?
Hitler ran opposed to socialism, communism, and liberalism. He was all about business and in love with authoritarians.
Sound familiar?
Giovanni Gentile : 30 May 1875 – 15 April 1944) was an Italian neo-Hegelian idealist philosopher, educator, and fascist politician. The self-styled "philosopher of Fascism", he was influential in providing an intellectual foundation for Italian Fascism, and ghostwrote part of The Doctrine of Fascism (1932) with Benito Mussolini. He was involved in the resurgence of Hegelian idealism in Italian philosophy and also devised his own system of thought, which he called "actual idealism" or "actualism", and which has been described as "the subjective extreme of the idealist tradition"
To Gentile, Marx's externalizing of the dialectic was essentially a fetishistic mysticism. Though when viewed externally thus, it followed that Marx could then make claims to the effect of what state or condition the dialectic objectively existed in history, a posteriori of where any individuals opinion was while comporting oneself to the totalized whole of society. i.e. people themselves could by such a view be ideologically 'backwards' and left behind from the current state of the dialectic and not themselves be part of what is actively creating the dialectic as-it-is.
Gentile thought this was absurd, and that there was no 'positive' independently existing dialectical object. Rather, the dialectic was natural to the state, as-it-is. Meaning that the interests composing the state are composing the dialectic by their living organic process of holding oppositional views within that state, and unified therein. It being the mean condition of those interests as ever they exist. Even criminality, is unified as a necessarily dialectic to be subsumed into the state and a creation and natural outlet of the dialectic of the positive state as ever it is.
Gentile sought to make his philosophy the basis for Fascism. However, with Gentile and with Fascism, the "problem of the party" existed by virtue of the fact that the Fascist "party", as such, arose organically rather than from a tract or pre-established socio-political doctrine. This complicated the matter for Gentile as it left no consensus to any way of thinking among Fascists, but ironically this aspect was to Gentile's view of how a state or party doctrine should live out its existence: with natural organic growth and dialectical opposition intact. The fact that Mussolini gave credence to Gentile's view points via Gentile's authorship helped with an official consideration, even though the "problem of the party" continued to exist for Mussolini as well.
Gentile placed himself within the Hegelian tradition, but also sought to distance himself from those views he considered erroneous. He criticized Hegel's dialectic (of Idea-Nature-Spirit), and instead proposed that everything is Spirit, with the dialectic residing in the pure act of thinking. Gentile believed Marx's conception of the dialectic to be the fundamental flaw of his application to system making. To the neo-Hegelian Gentile, Marx had made the dialectic into an external object, and therefore had abstracted it by making it part of a material process of historical development. The dialectic to Gentile could only be something of human precepts, something that is an active part of human thinking. It was, to Gentile, concrete subject and not abstract object. This Gentile expounded by how humans think in forms wherein one side of a dual opposite could not be thought of without its complement.
"Upward" wouldn't be known without "downward" and "heat" couldn't be known without "cold", while each are opposites they are co-dependent for either one's realization: these were creations that existed as dialectic only in human thinking and couldn't be confirmed outside of which, and especially could not be said to exist in a condition external to human thought like independent matter and a world outside of personal subjectivity or as an empirical reality when not conceived in unity and from the standpoint of the human mind.
This view (influenced by the Hegelian theory of the state) justified the corporative system, where in the individualized and particular interests of all divergent groups were to be personably incorporated into the state ("Stato etico") each to be considered a bureaucratic branch of the state itself and given official leverage. Gentile, rather than believing the private to be swallowed synthetically within the public as Marx would have it in his objective dialectic, believed that public and private were a priori identified with each other in an active and subjective dialectic: one could not be subsumed fully into the other as they already are beforehand the same. In such a manner each is the other after their own fashion and from their respective, relative, and reciprocal, position. Yet both constitute the state itself and neither are free from it, nothing ever being truly free from it, the state (as in Hegel) existing as an eternal condition and not an objective, abstract collection of atomistic values and facts of the particulars about what is positively governing the people at any given time.
*Maybe a bit of study is needed as to the roots of modern fascism? Much more thru the link below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Gentile
care to provide a source for gentile saying that that isn't dinesh d souza the professional revisionist and propagandist? he was influenced by marx. he was also influenced by many philosophers like hegel, kant, and plato. were they fascist too?
"No individuals or groups (political parties, cultural associations, economic unions, social classes) outside the State (15). Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle. Fascism is likewise opposed to trade unionism as a class weapon. But when brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State." - Gentile and Mussolini
"The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight. Thus it denies the value of personality in man, contests the significance of nationality and race, and thereby withdraws from humanity the premise of its existence and its culture. As a foundation of the universe, this doctrine would bring about the end of any order intellectually conceivable to man. And as, in this greatest of all recognizable organisms, the result of an application of such a law could only be chaos, on earth it could only be destruction for the inhabitants of this planet." - Hitler
Hitler shitting on liberal economics and marxism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_B7LJIV4l8
Hitler shitting on liberal economics and marxism pt2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNbd_DuKiTo&bpctr=1540861767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_B7LJIV4l8
Hitler shitting on liberal economics and marxism pt2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNbd_DuKiTo&bpctr=1540861767
The first thing Hitler did as chancellor was abolish unions.
The way he got elected chancellor was being funded by industrialists who needed a dictator to protect their interests against communism and Jews.
I smoked pot in high school but I still paid attention.
The way he got elected chancellor was being funded by industrialists who needed a dictator to protect their interests against communism and Jews.
I smoked pot in high school but I still paid attention.
there's no shortage of folks putting fine philosophical spins on what nazism was and what Hitler was
but he's really more easily understood
unions had power, Hitler did not tolerate limits to his, simple - unions needed to go
it's as old as humanity, the strongest man rules, and that is as Hitler saw himself
That sounds familiar as well....
hitler was never elected he was appointed chancellor by paul von hindenburg
So 1933 elections in Germany netted Adolph a fancy hat.
I don't know about Paul except he fucked over the Beatles when he sold their songs to Michael Jackson.
I'm going to do some reading... I really don't want to but it's all for sake of knowledge.
huh, are you sure? i was under the impression that the nazis came to power through elections?
im eating right now and history isn't my strong suit lol but im pretty sure hitler lost the election to paul von hindenburg in '32 (who was old as fuck at the time and already chancellor of germany) and was later appointed as chancellor by paul von hindenburg in '33
ill check it after
ill check it after
the Nazi's got a fair percentage of votes in that last election, not close to a majority
a deal was made with various politicians where Hitler became Chancellor
within the framework of Parliamentarian type democracies
the Nazi's viewed themselves as legitimate rulers, they worked the system by its own rules
they viewed the Russian communists as illegitimate rulers, they were simply a mob that took over by force
a deal was made with various politicians where Hitler became Chancellor
within the framework of Parliamentarian type democracies
the Nazi's viewed themselves as legitimate rulers, they worked the system by its own rules
they viewed the Russian communists as illegitimate rulers, they were simply a mob that took over by force
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