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The Trump Bomber

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packerfan79

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Pot. Kettle. Black.

Not a fan of Socrates, but he was right about one thing:
The unexamined life is not worth living....

Right, I am sensitive.

Don't quote Socrates, it goes hand in hand with the judeo christian values. You know the judeo christian values you rail against constantly.

Go back to your safe space, they have crayons, emotional support kittens, and juice boxes for you.
 

St. Phatty

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so any criticism of George Zorros is automatically anti semitic?
what about Israel, is criticism of Israels actions also anti semitic?

When people call me anti-Semitic I say,

Thank you for the Compliment, I am anti-criminal.

If there's time I say,
The Palestinian people are Semitic. What do they have to do with this ?

The use of the term anti-Semitic, involves a linguistic attempt to conflate Jewish people with Semitic regions. Part of Israel's false claim on the land of Palestine.
 

Gry

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IIRC, von Hindenburg selected the leader of the next-largest winning party to be his co-chancellor because of the Nazi showing in the election, and due to his *advanced* age...first act of appeasement toward the Nazis.


Very good, not the first time I have recalled things incorrectly.
 

yardgrazer

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I gleaned these 2 messages below from the comments section of the link beta put in his last post.


Criticism of someone who happens to be Jewish is not anti-Semitic.

Criticism of someone who happens to be black is not racist.

Criticism of someone who happens to be a woman is not sexist.

Criticism BECAUSE someone is Jewish, black, or a women is anti-Semitic, racist , and sexist.

The far-right extremists usually hate on Jewish people but when you point out that Jared and Ivanka are Jewish all we hear are.......

crickets.......




This is in reference to this quote as well as your comments about the Hungarian government.


I appreciate these forums, that doesn't mean I think you know what you're talking about when discussions veer into foreign affairs.



The Hungarian government dominated by a rightwing authoritarian, Victor Orban, who ran on anti-immigrant sentiment? That's the basis for your "well George Soros isn't even welcome in his home country" argument?


As for Ivanka and Jared, the fact that the right loves and accepts certain Jewish individuals doesn't free them from the possibility of being anti-Semites.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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This is in reference to this quote as well as your comments about the Hungarian government.


I appreciate these forums, that doesn't mean I think you know what you're talking about when discussions veer into foreign affairs.



The Hungarian government dominated by a rightwing authoritarian, Victor Orban, who ran on anti-immigrant sentiment? That's the basis for your "well George Soros isn't even welcome in his home country" argument?


As for Ivanka and Jared, the fact that the right loves and accepts certain Jewish individuals doesn't free them from the possibility of being anti-Semites.

Perhaps we need a Hungarian to interject - to tell us whats up in Hungary then? - since all of us who have not spent any time in recent years in Hungary (and I have not) - can't have any actual experience of living under this (as you state) 'right-wing authoritarian?' - Mr Orban - because I often hear of these right wing/left wing labels cast on various people - and to tell you the truth - often its far from the truth - as in the case of any country in Europe that has the gall to want to limit and/or restrict mass immigration into their nations - since this might damage them financially - socially, culturally, and criminally - in some way or other - so they are labelled right or even far right - or vice-versa - far left for allowing - millions of mainly economic migrants - to enter and suddenly have the right to exist within there borders sponsored most often by the contributing workers of that nation, who mostly don't want to suddenly have to support legions of strangers from conflicting and opposing cultures.

* Now lets look at exactly what the 'Semite' race is from Wikipedia:

In the racialist classifications of Carleton S. Coon, the Semitic peoples were considered to be members of the Caucasian race, not dissimilar in appearance to the neighbouring Indo-European, Northwest Caucasian, and Kartvelian-speaking peoples of the region. As language studies are interwoven with cultural studies, the term also came to describe the religions (ancient Semitic and Abrahamic) and Semitic-speaking ethnicities as well as the history of these varied cultures as associated by close geographic and linguistic distribution.

Some recent genetic studies have found (by analysis of the DNA of Semitic-speaking peoples) that they have some common ancestry. Although no significant common mitochondrial results have been found, Y-chromosomal links between Semitic-speaking peoples of the Middle East like Arabs, Jews, Mandaeans, Samaritans, and Assyrians/Syriacs have shown links, despite differences contributed from other groups (see Y-chromosomal Aaron).

A DNA study of "six Middle Eastern populations (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Kurdish Jews from Israel; Muslim Kurds; Muslim Arabs from Israel and the Palestinian Authority Area; and Bedouin from the Negev)" found that Jews were more closely related to groups in the north of the Fertile Crescent (Kurds, Turks, and Armenians) than to their Arab neighbors.

Genetic studies indicate that modern Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic and Mizrahi specifically), Levantine Arabs, Assyrians/Syriacs, Samaritans, Maronites, Druze, Mandaeans, and Mhallami, all have a common Near Eastern heritage which can be genetically mapped back to the ancient Fertile Crescent, but often also display genetic profiles distinct from one another, indicating the different histories of these peoples....

*so - wow, let me get this right: 'The Semitic peoples were considered to be members of the Caucasian race.
Genetic studies indicate that modern Jews all have a common Near Eastern heritage which can be genetically mapped back to the ancient Fertile Crescent, but often also display genetic profiles distinct from one another, indicating the different histories of these peoples....

So in conclusion 'Semetic people are NOT a RACE of people - they are from the Caucasian Race.!(as I am, or maybe you are?) - So if I was ever considered anti-semetic - then I would be against my own race? - and not all Jews are Semetic/Caucasian - a large proportion of them seem not to have hardly any link to being Caucasian at all - Hmmmm, what a kerfuffle.

'The terms "anti-Semite" or "antisemitism" came by a circuitous route to refer more narrowly to anyone who was hostile or discriminatory towards Jews in particular'......but that is not anthropologically accurate at all. The Jews are not a 'RACE' of people - the same as Muslims are not a race of people...So saying something derogatory towards a Jew or a Muslim - CANNOT BE RACIST!

Interesting eh?
 
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watts

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From my understanding, the right wing "jews" and their puppets (trump/bush etc.) put Israel and their agenda first and don't support open borders. The left wing "jews" like george sorros and his puppets (obama/hillary/merkel etc.) are more globalist and want open borders, multiculturalism, etc. They have brainwashed the people for so long, it can be a bit confusing at times.
 

Cannavore

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And in the 80s it was the right who supported open borders to drive down wages and kill unions while the left had a harder stance on immigration. Both parties are full of shit.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Doesn't it make you wonder then - if Muslim nor Jews are a 'Race' of people - where did all this dog-whistle politics come from accusing any one that had a bad thing to say about these two Abrahamic religions - of being racist? - Who has misinformed and educated millions if not billions of people to scream racism from the roof-tops when people belonging to these two monotheistic religions/cults are criticized, vilified, lambasted, ridiculed or just made fun of?

Could it be the teachers and professors within our educational institutions that have indoctrinate us and our kids into believing that Muslims/Islam and the Jews/Judean's, two VERY patriarchal and totalitarian, sexist and supremacist religions are really WHITE SUPREMACISTS? - since the guys at the very top of the hierarchical structures within these cults/religions are actually WHITE CAUCASIANS - Yes check out The House of Saud, the top Imams, the President and Prime Minister of Israel and The Chief Rabbi's - all are actually Caucasians - as white as you or I <that's if you are white of course....lol>

The media goes down this road too - constantly weaponizing the word racist and shoveling it all over the worlds media when ever anyone has a bad word to say about these people - and I wonder who actually owns and controls most of the media?....

Hmmmmm...again, interesting.
 

Stoner4Life

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The first thing Hitler did as chancellor was abolish unions.

The way he got elected chancellor was being funded by industrialists who needed a dictator to protect their interests against communism and Jews.

I smoked pot in high school but I still paid attention.

and then Hitler realized that controlling the media, all of it, would control what the people heard and of course Hitler had the appropriate responses to placate the people, the German populace was hungry for vindication for the loss of The Great War (WWI) and for the viewed extortion of the Treaty of Versailles; the loss of German land to make reparations, the people were a ticking time bomb of their own... Hitler was their fuse.

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So my point being, listen to the threats that trump levies against media outlets that seem to want to hold him accountable instead of just turning a blind eye, or again by blindly playing 'follow the leader' so as to not piss off the grand wazoo.......

1st Amendment rights of the people.

 

oldchuck

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Gypsy, some long time ago I realized that the whole concept of different races of humans was without scientific basis and served only to identify and separate some humans from others. The human gene pool has become very narrow. I suspect weed has a more genetically diverse gene pool than humans. We are all quite close cousins. The rest amounts to human construct for nefarious purposes.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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So, is it not beyond the pale to say - that those despicable bombers/shooters in the USA - are really 'small potatoes' where White Supremacists are concerned?

The Saudi's with trillions of petro-dollars and much help from the west look to be trying to commit some sort of genocide on the Yemeni people presently - and the Israeli's, with much military aid from the USA are doing pretty much the same job on the Palestinians - and to help further their cause - deflect and obfuscate what they are doing - by paying for, or ordering/controlling the media - that seems to be majority owned by Jewish interests - to drive a huge divide between us in the west politically - to cause us to constantly squabble amongst each other over this leftie/righty palava - while they slaughter hundreds of thousands of people - and displace millions more who flee to Europe - or wherever they feel safer.........it all sounds like some sort of holocaust to me going on - that our leaders are backing and thoroughly complicit in....because they are paid and scared of the consequences if they do not.
 

St. Phatty

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So, is it not beyond the pale to say - that those despicable bombers/shooters in the USA - are really 'small potatoes' where White Supremacists are concerned?

it all sounds like some sort of holocaust to me going on - that our leaders are backing and thoroughly complicit in....because they are paid and scared of the consequences if they do not.

Depends which group of White Supremacists you're talking about.

I just got a lifetime ban from Mother Jones for saying that the only White Supremacists I've ever met, are Jewish people in the USA.

Feels like a Holocaust (serious situation involving death of many) to me. Recently had a friend & pet-sitter die, because he was denied medical care that was quite cheap to provide.

Probably found a new pet-sitter, which I need in order to travel.
 

Klompen

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So in conclusion 'Semetic people are NOT a RACE of people - they are from the Caucasian Race.!(as I am, or maybe you are?) - So if I was ever considered anti-semetic - then I would be against my own race? - and not all Jews are Semetic/Caucasian - a large proportion of them seem not to have hardly any link to being Caucasian at all - Hmmmm, what a kerfuffle.

'The terms "anti-Semite" or "antisemitism" came by a circuitous route to refer more narrowly to anyone who was hostile or discriminatory towards Jews in particular'......but that is not anthropologically accurate at all. The Jews are not a 'RACE' of people - the same as Muslims are not a race of people...So saying something derogatory towards a Jew or a Muslim - CANNOT BE RACIST!

Interesting eh?

I would say that it isn't necessarily a racist position. I get quite frustrated personally with fellow leftists who can't tolerate criticism of Islam. I do not like Islam. I find it poisonous and regressive(especially Sunni Islam). That's not a statement against a race. That's a statement against a religion. I also find Judaism to be typically quite toxic. Christianity can also get pretty ugly at times but then against most Christians don't really listen to what Christ himself taught and don't really know their bibles well. Ultimately though, the most toxic aspects of any religion tends to be the egos of those who run the show. That's a problem that you can find in places with any of those religions and places with no religion at all. Its a human problem, and criticizing any specific example of it is really just a commentary on a bad aspect of human nature if you really think about it objectively.
 

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Depends which group of White Supremacists you're talking about.

I just got a lifetime ban from Mother Jones for saying that the only White Supremacists I've ever met, are Jewish people in the USA.

What did I tell y'all?

Anti-semites through and through. They'll spend all day redefining 'semite' or arguing that Jewish people are not a 'race', but ultimately they have hate in their hearts for Jewish people. Ultimately, they are racists and bigots.
 
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