RedBeardy5
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I have been researching LEDs and am going to have to try these lush LEDs out. I don't know what I love more about LEDs, the engineering of LEDs or growing with them.
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Hey ICMag! We are Lush LED Lighting!!!
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What do you mean by work with? I have a 5x5 tent in my room and would like to run one but the cost is up there! 
It would be nice to run one to see if i would want to switch up 12kw room i just finished building and the room next to it on its way after outdoor :d
Of course in return everything will be posted here and on Instagram under @cartel_icmag. I think you guys need some more test results out there as there is not enough people using the product and educating people on it.
Its hard to justify getting someone to spend well over 1000 dollars per a 4x4 area when 99% of growers are using MH/HPS and some are just begging to switch to Gavita or Epap Because you can go online and easily find grows and side by side comparisons. People are more willing to spend big money when they can easily find results. Maybe you guys should have a few testers on different forums and Instagram to help get the results out. You can tell someone something that sounds like your reading off a cue card or you can have members put down solid results. Gorilla Glue is capable of pulling 2+ pounds for 600w Gavita (thirdcoast). What would be the solid benefits of shelling that much out vs a gavita, epap, or even just a regular HID? If heat is the only real difference Inline fans are pretty cheap these days...
It would be nice to run one to see if i would want to switch up 12kw room i just finished building and the room next to it on its way after outdoor :d
Of course in return everything will be posted here and on Instagram under @cartel_icmag. I think you guys need some more test results out there as there is not enough people using the product and educating people on it.
Its hard to justify getting someone to spend well over 1000 dollars per a 4x4 area when 99% of growers are using MH/HPS and some are just begging to switch to Gavita or Epap Because you can go online and easily find grows and side by side comparisons. People are more willing to spend big money when they can easily find results. Maybe you guys should have a few testers on different forums and Instagram to help get the results out. You can tell someone something that sounds like your reading off a cue card or you can have members put down solid results. Gorilla Glue is capable of pulling 2+ pounds for 600w Gavita (thirdcoast). What would be the solid benefits of shelling that much out vs a gavita, epap, or even just a regular HID? If heat is the only real difference Inline fans are pretty cheap these days...
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I myself was also thinking of giving lush lighting a try after I saw farmer john using these lights but soon after he shut his YouTube channel down most likely x girlfriend problems. But what I did see your panels were very nice and bright and would of loved to actually see a grow done start to finish with them and just them.
I would love to show what one of these lights would do in a 4x4 tent shit I'll even resend the light back to you after harvest. Lol.
No seriously I really would love to get one of your lights because I believe in led technology. I have a couple cheap panels that I actually veg with I just wouldn't use them to flower a tent out I actually use a 1k hid in my 4x4. I would love to see what a proper led made panel would do in my 4x4 then maybe I could justify spending the money.. I just haven't seen one panel that would cover a 4x4 area with no dark corners.
I would love to show what one of these lights would do in a 4x4 tent shit I'll even resend the light back to you after harvest. Lol.
No seriously I really would love to get one of your lights because I believe in led technology. I have a couple cheap panels that I actually veg with I just wouldn't use them to flower a tent out I actually use a 1k hid in my 4x4. I would love to see what a proper led made panel would do in my 4x4 then maybe I could justify spending the money.. I just haven't seen one panel that would cover a 4x4 area with no dark corners.
Im sure there are but i would like to do a comparison test first hand not one that may have had some backing or interest in the company. Its funny they are so up to push to get to buy it and are active everywhere else except where a couple of people are asking to do a trial run.
If their systems are so great they should have no problems sending a couple units to established people on ICMAG that will document and give no biased results. You would figure if these claims they provided are true these units would be flying off the shelves and wouldnt have any trouble financially providing a couple units. Its not like i am asking them to Stock my whole 30 light warehouse with them.
The sad thing is.. I'm in the market to purchase new lights and the way they are avoiding US is taking the slight interest in LUSH go out the window. I already had to quit following them on Instagram because some of their posts and claims were outlandish haha! I think i am gonna have to say that Lush has put out what little spark of interest i had in LED's and i will most likely go ahead and just redo my rooms with the Gavita or Epap's as they are 50% percent less and will actually double your yields. The difference between the costs of the system will pay for the AC needed to cool them as well.
There is a user on instagram that is working with the scientists at Arizona State University and have found that LED's work to grow cannabis but you will be disappointed. They are currently using with excellent results these Crystal Diode lighting systems from Japan that are tuned nearly perfect for growing cannabis. You guys are trying to sell a cheap product for a high price when new things are right around the corner.. you would figure you guys would be trying to get your lights into as many hands as possible. Your guys marketing scheme comes off with your claims and advertisements as the Cali Connection of lights.
If their systems are so great they should have no problems sending a couple units to established people on ICMAG that will document and give no biased results. You would figure if these claims they provided are true these units would be flying off the shelves and wouldnt have any trouble financially providing a couple units. Its not like i am asking them to Stock my whole 30 light warehouse with them.
The sad thing is.. I'm in the market to purchase new lights and the way they are avoiding US is taking the slight interest in LUSH go out the window. I already had to quit following them on Instagram because some of their posts and claims were outlandish haha! I think i am gonna have to say that Lush has put out what little spark of interest i had in LED's and i will most likely go ahead and just redo my rooms with the Gavita or Epap's as they are 50% percent less and will actually double your yields. The difference between the costs of the system will pay for the AC needed to cool them as well.
There is a user on instagram that is working with the scientists at Arizona State University and have found that LED's work to grow cannabis but you will be disappointed. They are currently using with excellent results these Crystal Diode lighting systems from Japan that are tuned nearly perfect for growing cannabis. You guys are trying to sell a cheap product for a high price when new things are right around the corner.. you would figure you guys would be trying to get your lights into as many hands as possible. Your guys marketing scheme comes off with your claims and advertisements as the Cali Connection of lights.
Lush are putting these lights into as many people's hands as they can, and every singe one of the people have completely converted.
The community is pretty huge just by judging the facebook community of people posting amazing stuff several times a day. There has been many people with thousands of watt setups that completely converted to Lush, that speaks volumes to me.
The community is pretty huge just by judging the facebook community of people posting amazing stuff several times a day. There has been many people with thousands of watt setups that completely converted to Lush, that speaks volumes to me.
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itsgoinoff
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Burn.
I am sorry to say there is no comparison in growth rates when you compare a led to h.i.d light. So you can cut your noise with that statement. I have used LEDs in veg and hids and when my plants are growing 1 to 2" inches daily with a metal halide there is no led on the planet keeping up with it so kill that shit.
Now new user sayin burn or whatever with his wise comment most likely another lush rep maybe???
Ya I have seen lush lights giving away mainly to subcool and all his minion growers.
Now do I believe in led technology yes I do.. Don't go making false claims that they grow plants faster than hids because I'll challenge you on that or any other person that wants to put there panel that they claim will out veg a hps or metal halide.
My buddy owns a hydro shop they carry all types of LEDs like my favorite the lumigrow and there is no way even the biggest lumigrow will beat my hid in veg.
LEDs grow nice compact and bushy plants I do like the technology but it's no where in the field of a gravita or even a standard hid light as far as growth rates are concerned.
Now new user sayin burn or whatever with his wise comment most likely another lush rep maybe???
Ya I have seen lush lights giving away mainly to subcool and all his minion growers.
Now do I believe in led technology yes I do.. Don't go making false claims that they grow plants faster than hids because I'll challenge you on that or any other person that wants to put there panel that they claim will out veg a hps or metal halide.
My buddy owns a hydro shop they carry all types of LEDs like my favorite the lumigrow and there is no way even the biggest lumigrow will beat my hid in veg.
LEDs grow nice compact and bushy plants I do like the technology but it's no where in the field of a gravita or even a standard hid light as far as growth rates are concerned.
Lush Lighting
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Hey guys, this thread was created by a Lush representative before I took over social media and I apologize that I didn't notice that people were still commenting on it. I wasn't trying to avoid anyone. I started a new thread of my own and have been active on it every night since.
Let's see if I can at least attempt to satisfy some questions. We do have quite a few people that we gave lights to because they agreed to do a side by side and show results but then something happens (like Farmer John) where they scrap their garden before the results are posted. This has happened with TC of TGA, JBlaze, Fatty McDoobs, and a few others. We even have a sponsorship program just for this type of thing with an agreement that they will complete the journal. Then, there are those that complete the task like JBlaze, KingJohnC, Pre-Calyx, Kushington Farms, Calie Grown, Nancy Budwell, all with documented completed grow journals. Dr.Young is about to begin his Lush journey but that's because he contacted me privately about our sponsorship program directly and I saw his message. I didn't realize this thread was active. We also have large operations like Nature's Way Wellness Center in Colorado Springs for large scale demonstrations. And Oaksterdam University (where Ed Rosenthal speaks) teaches with Lush Lights exclusively. Instagram may look like hype, my husband (the owner) is very passionate about his product; but I assure you every photo he uploads on there is Lush grown. He just gets excited sometimes. We've been traveling all over for the last two years since we released the lights in 2012 to the market. R&D for three years before release. Dr.Young is right, we do all of this out of pocket. We've never taken a loan or taken money from an investor. Can't hand out lights to everyone even though we'd love to. We were having giveaways every month. Just did a giveaway at a Portland event for a different forum last week. We're opening our first Lush Lighting retail store next week. We have a lot of information on Facebook with the page and then the most on the Lush Lighting Grower's United group (tons of independent growers showing their gardens). We're on four different forums that I interact with daily (nightly). Hard to sway anyone with words but photos do a lot of talking for us. That's why I have been on my other thread that I started. You're invited to come there and check it out. Please forgive me for not seeing this before.
Renae
Let's see if I can at least attempt to satisfy some questions. We do have quite a few people that we gave lights to because they agreed to do a side by side and show results but then something happens (like Farmer John) where they scrap their garden before the results are posted. This has happened with TC of TGA, JBlaze, Fatty McDoobs, and a few others. We even have a sponsorship program just for this type of thing with an agreement that they will complete the journal. Then, there are those that complete the task like JBlaze, KingJohnC, Pre-Calyx, Kushington Farms, Calie Grown, Nancy Budwell, all with documented completed grow journals. Dr.Young is about to begin his Lush journey but that's because he contacted me privately about our sponsorship program directly and I saw his message. I didn't realize this thread was active. We also have large operations like Nature's Way Wellness Center in Colorado Springs for large scale demonstrations. And Oaksterdam University (where Ed Rosenthal speaks) teaches with Lush Lights exclusively. Instagram may look like hype, my husband (the owner) is very passionate about his product; but I assure you every photo he uploads on there is Lush grown. He just gets excited sometimes. We've been traveling all over for the last two years since we released the lights in 2012 to the market. R&D for three years before release. Dr.Young is right, we do all of this out of pocket. We've never taken a loan or taken money from an investor. Can't hand out lights to everyone even though we'd love to. We were having giveaways every month. Just did a giveaway at a Portland event for a different forum last week. We're opening our first Lush Lighting retail store next week. We have a lot of information on Facebook with the page and then the most on the Lush Lighting Grower's United group (tons of independent growers showing their gardens). We're on four different forums that I interact with daily (nightly). Hard to sway anyone with words but photos do a lot of talking for us. That's why I have been on my other thread that I started. You're invited to come there and check it out. Please forgive me for not seeing this before.
Renae
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Phychotron
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I dislike the light design because it is just a copy of Advanced LED's Diamond Series, which is now out of date and not as strong of build quality like their new light or the GrowBlu Apollo 240, with its beefy heat sink. That design has the finned aluminum but not nearly as thick as the Apollo or Advanced's new XTE light using newer, higher power diodes.
The prices are much too high, not sure why the "dominator 2x" is $1200 when Advanced sells theirs for $1000, and Growblu for $950. No way could that be better since it does not have the upgraded heat sink or modular design for easy fixing.
I like the light the Diamond series pumps out but it is too old to today's standards. I have a circuit of diodes out at 2.5 yrs and if its more than the power supply I'll have to send it back to Advanced, probably get a new one if its a diode.
Also with that case design there is a huge electrical shock risk.. The daisy chain feature uses the wrong connectors and when the cap is off and you touch the end you will get shocked very bad.
Complete bullshit that it covers a 4x4 area. First off look at it, its rectangular, second the spread of the light at most covers a 3x4 area, but more like 2.5x4 for flowering. For a 4x4 area I recommend two of that size/style lights to completely engulf the area in light and reach close to maximum potential. YES, you will have plants that grow off to the side, but its not anywhere near optimal. The non-lens version might do better for a SOG style in that size area but not for tall plants.
No doubt its a decent light, but soon to be outdated and overpriced. But that's just my opinion.
The prices are much too high, not sure why the "dominator 2x" is $1200 when Advanced sells theirs for $1000, and Growblu for $950. No way could that be better since it does not have the upgraded heat sink or modular design for easy fixing.
I like the light the Diamond series pumps out but it is too old to today's standards. I have a circuit of diodes out at 2.5 yrs and if its more than the power supply I'll have to send it back to Advanced, probably get a new one if its a diode.
Also with that case design there is a huge electrical shock risk.. The daisy chain feature uses the wrong connectors and when the cap is off and you touch the end you will get shocked very bad.
Complete bullshit that it covers a 4x4 area. First off look at it, its rectangular, second the spread of the light at most covers a 3x4 area, but more like 2.5x4 for flowering. For a 4x4 area I recommend two of that size/style lights to completely engulf the area in light and reach close to maximum potential. YES, you will have plants that grow off to the side, but its not anywhere near optimal. The non-lens version might do better for a SOG style in that size area but not for tall plants.
No doubt its a decent light, but soon to be outdated and overpriced. But that's just my opinion.
That's good to see atleast someone chime in. But as for the poster saying that LEDs lights grow plants faster than hids is complete nonsense. I have used many different panels I do love to veg under them because of the growth rates. Like I stated LEDs grow plants more squat and busy without the need of topping. There vertical growth is nowhere near a hid light. I run a 4x4 and if I strictly vegged under my 1k by the time 2 months was up waiting for my tent to finish flowering I would have to throw to plants out because they would be way to tall under a 1k metal halide. That's why I use LEDs for veg because it is way more practical for veg plants and clones when I am waiting on my flower tent to finish budding plants under my 1k hps.
Now two months veg clones and seeds starts would look like a freaking amazon jungle under a hps like if I vegged for two months
Now with that being said I do believe in the future of LEDs. They have proven themselves to be good for growing. The negatives yes the price points are way to high as of right now. But as with all new technology everything starts out high until the market is flooded with good lights not Chinese. I know we will eventually see these lights at a better price point but until then or I see proof done with my own grow where 1 light will cover my 4x4 with no dark spots and outyield my h.i.d I will only use LEDs for veg.
Nothing Against anyone at lush have seen your panels in action but I am a hands on kinda guy I need to see the results for myself my own eyes in my own grow room before I would believe someone else's results on a video.
There were tons of time lapse videos done before with LEDs that were total bullshit!! That claimed oh you can hit 5000 grams with as little as 260w led light for example. This is not a true example but there are those videos on YouTube especially done with hydrogrow led panels that were false and full of bullshit. Now you see why I don't trust other peoples grows until I see them for myself personally. Then and only then will I believe the results someone post about led lights and there yield potentials.
Don't get me wrong I am not begging or challenging you guys to just give me a panel for a grow I am just stating my opinion. Eventually I will go out and buy a big panel but until then I will gladly sit back and watch.
Now two months veg clones and seeds starts would look like a freaking amazon jungle under a hps like if I vegged for two months
Now with that being said I do believe in the future of LEDs. They have proven themselves to be good for growing. The negatives yes the price points are way to high as of right now. But as with all new technology everything starts out high until the market is flooded with good lights not Chinese. I know we will eventually see these lights at a better price point but until then or I see proof done with my own grow where 1 light will cover my 4x4 with no dark spots and outyield my h.i.d I will only use LEDs for veg.
Nothing Against anyone at lush have seen your panels in action but I am a hands on kinda guy I need to see the results for myself my own eyes in my own grow room before I would believe someone else's results on a video.
There were tons of time lapse videos done before with LEDs that were total bullshit!! That claimed oh you can hit 5000 grams with as little as 260w led light for example. This is not a true example but there are those videos on YouTube especially done with hydrogrow led panels that were false and full of bullshit. Now you see why I don't trust other peoples grows until I see them for myself personally. Then and only then will I believe the results someone post about led lights and there yield potentials.
Don't get me wrong I am not begging or challenging you guys to just give me a panel for a grow I am just stating my opinion. Eventually I will go out and buy a big panel but until then I will gladly sit back and watch.
Ok dr young well if we can get the same exact strain to grow clone most likely I'll challenge you I'll run my magnetic hid verse your led panel. But ofcourse we have to have the same everything clones 4x4 flower tent and everything else.
2gpw lmfao u were just joking when you posted that right? Ledoneshot has done more led grows than anyone on here and he has never hit 2gpw as far as I am concerned or know of. That's a big fucking claim to make and I am very doubtful that u will ever come even close to that. Maybe a little over a gram per watt. Or even a gram per watt but get the hell out of here with 2gpw maybe wet weight.
But if you are a honest person let's put it to the test you run your lush light that they claim is on par with a 1k and I'll run my hid same plant count and clone and no cheating because I can't see what you are doing when your camera is off and I'll challenge you to beat my old magnetic 1k ballast.
I have tons of clone onlys to work with you pick one you have the same of and we can have a challenge as long as timing permits it.
Let me know what clone onlys you have because my list is long and don't feel like typing them all out.
2gpw lmfao u were just joking when you posted that right? Ledoneshot has done more led grows than anyone on here and he has never hit 2gpw as far as I am concerned or know of. That's a big fucking claim to make and I am very doubtful that u will ever come even close to that. Maybe a little over a gram per watt. Or even a gram per watt but get the hell out of here with 2gpw maybe wet weight.
But if you are a honest person let's put it to the test you run your lush light that they claim is on par with a 1k and I'll run my hid same plant count and clone and no cheating because I can't see what you are doing when your camera is off and I'll challenge you to beat my old magnetic 1k ballast.
I have tons of clone onlys to work with you pick one you have the same of and we can have a challenge as long as timing permits it.
Let me know what clone onlys you have because my list is long and don't feel like typing them all out.
I dont have any clone onlys because I'm just starting from scratch again. I think we talked a lil before when you came to OC (my city)
I'm definitely a honest person, and I'm willing to do this. I dont have any tents, but I have a room I was already going to dedicate a 3x3 or 4x4 section to do a SOG... I'm pretty sure your not going to do sog, but either way.... Same strain... I have a Dominator 2x that will be here tmrrw.
All i see is GG#4 in your albums... I guess the Forum cut, Donkey Kong, HP, and Bannana are all Momma'd/Veg'd up by now though right?
Not really sure, that HP is probably nice... or I guess some Forum cut would be nice. I hear Donkey Kong is one of the best though (from someone who has over 40 strains he said its in the top 5 and better than GSC). The only problem is veg time.. It would take fucking forever to get a cut momma'd up unless you wanted to do a big plant SCROG. Which I wouldnt mind either. I spend a lot of time with my plants, I make sure they are tied down and FULLY revealed to the light, no shade, and low profile enough to get max penetration the whole grow with only being deprived of light when I want it to be just for the sake of giving them a rest simulating cloudy days.
Lets do it though, a friendly little test for the sake of everyone. I really wanna teach people how to grow so we can stop this tragic leaf plant trend that everyone is doing.
I'm definitely a honest person, and I'm willing to do this. I dont have any tents, but I have a room I was already going to dedicate a 3x3 or 4x4 section to do a SOG... I'm pretty sure your not going to do sog, but either way.... Same strain... I have a Dominator 2x that will be here tmrrw.
All i see is GG#4 in your albums... I guess the Forum cut, Donkey Kong, HP, and Bannana are all Momma'd/Veg'd up by now though right?
Not really sure, that HP is probably nice... or I guess some Forum cut would be nice. I hear Donkey Kong is one of the best though (from someone who has over 40 strains he said its in the top 5 and better than GSC). The only problem is veg time.. It would take fucking forever to get a cut momma'd up unless you wanted to do a big plant SCROG. Which I wouldnt mind either. I spend a lot of time with my plants, I make sure they are tied down and FULLY revealed to the light, no shade, and low profile enough to get max penetration the whole grow with only being deprived of light when I want it to be just for the sake of giving them a rest simulating cloudy days.
Lets do it though, a friendly little test for the sake of everyone. I really wanna teach people how to grow so we can stop this tragic leaf plant trend that everyone is doing.
For sure sounds like a plan. I have both stardawgs Cory and illuminati, sour dub, animal cookies, and a bunch more along the way sfv also and some more.
I also have a ton of beans so maybe we might have some of the same packs to make it even. I am always up for a friendly challenge for sure.
I think it will be fun to push one another to strive to do our best and let the results shine.
I do believe in LEDs don't get me wrong. I love them for growing veg plants. I just haven't found a panel that covers a 4x4 without dark corners. Do I think in the future LEDs are gonna be the way to go ofcourse. But as of now the price point scares people.
I would love to try a panel that would cover my area and maybe one day I'll take that leap of faith to hopefully find a panel that will be worth the money spent with great coverage. Been looking at the bad boy big lumigrow for a while but maybe after I see your grow u might change my mind to go with lush. We shall see.
I also have a ton of beans so maybe we might have some of the same packs to make it even. I am always up for a friendly challenge for sure.
I think it will be fun to push one another to strive to do our best and let the results shine.
I do believe in LEDs don't get me wrong. I love them for growing veg plants. I just haven't found a panel that covers a 4x4 without dark corners. Do I think in the future LEDs are gonna be the way to go ofcourse. But as of now the price point scares people.
I would love to try a panel that would cover my area and maybe one day I'll take that leap of faith to hopefully find a panel that will be worth the money spent with great coverage. Been looking at the bad boy big lumigrow for a while but maybe after I see your grow u might change my mind to go with lush. We shall see.
Yeah no doubt, I know your not hating.
The shading in the corners is actually something i'm going to attempt take advantage of. I do SOG so I'm just going to keep the younger/newer stuff on the outside, and the older stuff gets brought to the middle.
Same thing with SCROG, I'd do a multiple plant Scrog probably using 3 liter soda bottles or maybe Milk cartons with a drip tube put into the handle part of the jug that is cut
Instead of doing SCROG with 5 gallon pots or something, if I was going to do it big boy style I'd use a 18-22 gallon Rubbermaid tote or something probably. The key is to let them almost get rootbound in a 1 gallon or something early so they know its time to mature, and dont delay/stretch as much then throw them into a big boy container.
I dont do the whole 6' plant thing unless I was dedicating it to just 1 light, and I put it into a corner with the light facing 45* downward onto the corner.
The Dominator 2x is 450w basically, and a 1000w competitor.
The seeds I have are pretty different...
SweetTooth #4 put into germ last night
Elephant Stomper f2s
Blue Satellite 2.2
501st Blueberry Headband x Ox
Platinum OG x Chemmy Jones
Purple Haze x White Rhino
Killer Queen Redux
I think the GSC would probably be the trendy thing to compete, but then again.. What do ya think? I've been fiending to get some clone onlys anyway mang lets do it
The shading in the corners is actually something i'm going to attempt take advantage of. I do SOG so I'm just going to keep the younger/newer stuff on the outside, and the older stuff gets brought to the middle.
Same thing with SCROG, I'd do a multiple plant Scrog probably using 3 liter soda bottles or maybe Milk cartons with a drip tube put into the handle part of the jug that is cut
Instead of doing SCROG with 5 gallon pots or something, if I was going to do it big boy style I'd use a 18-22 gallon Rubbermaid tote or something probably. The key is to let them almost get rootbound in a 1 gallon or something early so they know its time to mature, and dont delay/stretch as much then throw them into a big boy container.
I dont do the whole 6' plant thing unless I was dedicating it to just 1 light, and I put it into a corner with the light facing 45* downward onto the corner.
The Dominator 2x is 450w basically, and a 1000w competitor.
The seeds I have are pretty different...
SweetTooth #4 put into germ last night
Elephant Stomper f2s
Blue Satellite 2.2
501st Blueberry Headband x Ox
Platinum OG x Chemmy Jones
Purple Haze x White Rhino
Killer Queen Redux
I think the GSC would probably be the trendy thing to compete, but then again.. What do ya think? I've been fiending to get some clone onlys anyway mang lets do it
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Well if you are getting you light soon then I might have to tap out. I have to honor my obligation with ojd from connoisseur and do my test grow. But hey mine might be a low yielder or could be a huge yielder we can still kinda compare but I'll be vegging with a led as well. I am dropping triangle kush cookies x freak. Most of the parents involved are tiny yielders but it does have some haze in there from the daddy's side so maybe just maybe we can see how she turns out and compare yield at the end. Even though it won't be a even dude by side because like forest says my testers are like a box of chocolates I'll never know what I am gonna get until they finish. Lol
I got the SLH x Oger99 that are 4 weeks in. It'll be a good little test of the LED to see how they start to spurt. Some have 2 tops, some have 3, and some are SOG style. I'm really hoping these clones pull through so I dont have to attempt re-veg. There are probably more than 1-2 keepers from what I see.
I got some SourBubble bx3 I just threw into flower yesterday, and some White Lotus that are starving for light in the flower area. This should be a interesting upgrade
I wish I had a elite Sativa dom clone only so I dont have to hunt in such a rush the way I am now. I hate vegetating stuff like SourBubble until they are big enough for clones.
Sativas take forever to flower to show the keeprs, and indica take forever to veg for clones... Its time consuming no matter what I do.
I got some SourBubble bx3 I just threw into flower yesterday, and some White Lotus that are starving for light in the flower area. This should be a interesting upgrade
I wish I had a elite Sativa dom clone only so I dont have to hunt in such a rush the way I am now. I hate vegetating stuff like SourBubble until they are big enough for clones.
Sativas take forever to flower to show the keeprs, and indica take forever to veg for clones... Its time consuming no matter what I do.
Phychotron
Member
The Dominator 2x cannot adequately fill a 4x4 area, get that out of your head. It is essentially a clone of the DS400, my fixture, and while it does compare to the 1000w in terms of bud size and density, it will take a second light to fill in the other half of the tent so that it could compete with the HPS for area coverage.
SO your somewhat correct, you get 1000w style buds in a smaller area.
You seem set that you need a 1:1 light replacement for your HPS. LED's build a canopy of light and rain it down from multiple points, eliminating single-point shadowing while distributing the light more evenly. HPS growers seem to think they need one LED to replace their one HPS.
Assuming Lush is on par with Advanced and GrowBlu in terms of light output, two of those long/skinny fixtures in a 4x4 area will be pretty much maxed out for lighting and able to compare to your HPS.
Also a thing to note is that the light is not just a stand alone component, its part of a system. Changing the one component changes the system, i.e water uptake, temps the plants like, etc. that need to be accounted for, something I believe a lot of HPS converts are not compensating for and experiencing lower quality plants and yields.
The only way a light could reach 2gpw is if you do a SOG and/or spread the light out way too thin and get thinner leafier buds.
Check out the Mr X/Evo grow, the top spot in the sticky LED gpw thread to see what I mean.
Those are not the kinds of buds i'm trying to grow. I want dense nuggets, not a bunch of popcorn fluffed bud.
