Well shit, if I'm ordering from them, I may just go with their essential oil mix as well. 8 oz for $45 is about as cheap as I can make a mix myself.
God damn you guys and all these options! I'm too indecisive!
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LSWM's 3k Vert Donut's @ 7000ft!
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Well shit, if I'm ordering from them, I may just go with their essential oil mix as well. 8 oz for $45 is about as cheap as I can make a mix myself.
God damn you guys and all these options! I'm too indecisive!
Seriously restraining myself from yelling at you right now.
#1: Gavita 1000w DE Bulb + Fixture is $495. AMAZON LINK
Epapillion is $575. AMAZON LINK
#2: That video you posted is testing 1 Gavita vs 1 Epap. This is not what Epap's are designed for, as I have already stated multiple times. This is not how I intend to use the Epap's as I have also stated multiple times. I plan to use them above a bare bulb setup. Not over a single tray. I plan to use it as SUPPLEMENTAL LIGHTING to create a more even spread from all 4 sides of the plants as well as above. Again, NOT AS A STANDALONE LIGHT.
#3: These guys in the video make the assumption that a single Gavita vs a single Epap in a 5x5 space is going to show how multiple Epaps are going to interact, then they extrapolate their findings from there. You'll also notice they average the numbers from the whole tray, which in a 5x5 space is OBVIOUSLY going to favor the Gavita, as extra light will be lost to reflection from the tent and other factors. They show you the individual results for each square for the Gavita @ 30" then just show you the averages for everything else. If you notice, the Gavita is more intense in the middle, and less intense on the sides. Epap's do not suffer from this issue. The guys cannot even get their shit together for their video, and they say that in their testing that 1.5-2 feet is the optimal distance between epaps, while they are showing a diagram which show 56 inches between Epaps.
Show me a link to someone performing independent testing of Epap vs Gavita in a 10x10 or 20x20 room with 4 or more fixtures and then we can talk.
#4: I still haven't made a decision between one or the other, or if I will even use overhead lighting in a bare bulb room. Or if I'm going to go with stacked donuts or trees, or whatever other options I can come up with.
#5: To keep saying that the epaps are shit compared to Gavita only continues to show your ignorance and bias against alternative lighting styles. We get it, you like to drop the hood right over a 5x5 tray and light each tray individually. You don't like bare bulbs, blah blah blah.
Get out of my thread. Please and thank you.
Hey its all about par at the end of the day you want to run them over your bare bulbs where in vid it showed what ???? it had no par at 48 " in height multiple lighting it really doesn't make a difference like saying 3 epap will out do 3 gavitas in a 5 x 15 room again with the par ratings of the epap and the ratings of gavita its obviously lob sided wouldn't yea think but your right buy them get the show going
PS you posting them your 28 zip plant harvest pics soon ??
PS you posting them your 28 zip plant harvest pics soon ??
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DunHav`nFun
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Tell him how you feel LWSM , don`t hold back......
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Some folks.....sheesh.....
Peace....DHF....
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Peace....DHF....
....Amazing that you continue to argue, and refuse to admit where you've been wrong. Surprise, surprise.
I'm only going to ask once more. PLEASE GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD.
Miraculous Meds
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I don't understand why someone would come back when u asked them not to in ur own thread. It says a lot about that person. Then they got the balls to ask u to do something for them. lmao, I cant believe how stupid some people are. It would be nice if there was a button that locked out people of ur thread, so they cant derail what u r trying to do.
gl LSWM, id say just ignore the ignorance.
gl LSWM, id say just ignore the ignorance.
LSWM quote lol I have a room that is roughly 15'x15', and has an AFrame roof that is a 1:1 slope. The peak is ~11'.
I am thinking about hanging vertical bare bulbs and supplementing some overhead lighting with 1 or 2 Epaps, or parabolic reflectors.
So my question is: Will the wide spread of the Epap be negated by the AFrame roof? If I hang the fixture @ 10' the bulb ends will be ~1' from the roof. Will this be an issue? I may be able to drop it lower, but want to have all my bases covered.
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LSWM's 3k Vert Donuts
will this be a issue lmao hanging them at 10 feet this is amazing i seriously don;t know who is worse LSWM or MED MAN Again if you did 28 zips Bravo Bravo sorry i asked if you were going to post pics i think you mentioned somewhere yesterday that you were ???? my bad again last pics were on page 13
9 18 14 surely those arent the ones you harvested 10 days later again i see no other plants close to harvest my bad
I am thinking about hanging vertical bare bulbs and supplementing some overhead lighting with 1 or 2 Epaps, or parabolic reflectors.
So my question is: Will the wide spread of the Epap be negated by the AFrame roof? If I hang the fixture @ 10' the bulb ends will be ~1' from the roof. Will this be an issue? I may be able to drop it lower, but want to have all my bases covered.
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LSWM's 3k Vert Donuts
will this be a issue lmao hanging them at 10 feet this is amazing i seriously don;t know who is worse LSWM or MED MAN Again if you did 28 zips Bravo Bravo sorry i asked if you were going to post pics i think you mentioned somewhere yesterday that you were ???? my bad again last pics were on page 13
9 18 14 surely those arent the ones you harvested 10 days later again i see no other plants close to harvest my bad
Busting your chops
No vertizontals are basically the same thing you're buddy is running only made by sun systems. For you're particular goal of hanging them high to supplement a large area they are perfect. Low profile and a wide spread .Well I have some pics from yesterday, but I installed a new OS/ROM/Version of android on my phone... Android 4.4.4 KitKat.
Can't seem to get them to upload to the site from the phone, they keep failing, and I can't get it to connect to my computer over USB. I've got a few different work arounds in mind, but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Everything is looking killer. Both horizontal trays are looking amazing, and the 2 vert double stacked trays are looking great as well. They aren't mono cropped, and there are some new strains I've never flowered before in there, so the coverage isn't perfect, but the nugs are blowing up.
It's getting really hard to get any decent picture in Flower #2. I need to get a couple CFL's and an extension cord to get the light where I want it to get some proper pictures.
Can't seem to get them to upload to the site from the phone, they keep failing, and I can't get it to connect to my computer over USB. I've got a few different work arounds in mind, but I don't feel like fucking with it right now.
Everything is looking killer. Both horizontal trays are looking amazing, and the 2 vert double stacked trays are looking great as well. They aren't mono cropped, and there are some new strains I've never flowered before in there, so the coverage isn't perfect, but the nugs are blowing up.
It's getting really hard to get any decent picture in Flower #2. I need to get a couple CFL's and an extension cord to get the light where I want it to get some proper pictures.
Miraculous Meds
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Just make note of the new strains that didn't fill in and veg longer next time. It takes runs under yer belt for each new strain before u can have a chance to max it to full potential.
On ur phone, cant u just plug it in the usb?
Taking pics has proven tougher than I thought. I have never taken pics of anything really so its new to me. A friend told me take a bunch so u can select a few of the best, but I still just take one pic so far. I need to practice. lol
On ur phone, cant u just plug it in the usb?
Taking pics has proven tougher than I thought. I have never taken pics of anything really so its new to me. A friend told me take a bunch so u can select a few of the best, but I still just take one pic so far. I need to practice. lol
Well some of the plants are too kush/indica leaning, I grew them from bagseed, smells very hashy and much like this other bagseed genetics I still have around. They won't perform well in vert, or even well in anything other than SOG to be honest.
Then there is the WiFi which is so stretchy I don't know if it will fill in no matter what. The length between internodes is so big that the nugs will have to be monsters to fill in the gaps. I'm not sure how I would change that situation with training...
As for the phone, once you start geeking out with software, you quickly find nothing is as simple as it should be. It's a software problem. Either with the phone or on the computer. I had it working previously, but now with the new OS it won't work. I'm thinking it's probably the drivers on the computer not recognizing the phone properly, but I haven't had the time to search out the issue. I already tried uninstalling the device from device manager and retrying, but it hasn't worked.
Even with the issues I have to deal with, I'll take KitKat over Ice Cream Sandwich, which is the latest update they actually put out for my phone without using custom software. I'll probably end up just pulling out the SD card and using my SD card reader before I actually fix the situation.
Then there is the WiFi which is so stretchy I don't know if it will fill in no matter what. The length between internodes is so big that the nugs will have to be monsters to fill in the gaps. I'm not sure how I would change that situation with training...
As for the phone, once you start geeking out with software, you quickly find nothing is as simple as it should be. It's a software problem. Either with the phone or on the computer. I had it working previously, but now with the new OS it won't work. I'm thinking it's probably the drivers on the computer not recognizing the phone properly, but I haven't had the time to search out the issue. I already tried uninstalling the device from device manager and retrying, but it hasn't worked.
Even with the issues I have to deal with, I'll take KitKat over Ice Cream Sandwich, which is the latest update they actually put out for my phone without using custom software. I'll probably end up just pulling out the SD card and using my SD card reader before I actually fix the situation.
Miraculous Meds
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U didn't go with the DE like icky suggested?
I have been feeding her DE with every meal, in increasing amounts... So far I haven't seen results. I ordered the appropriate medication that takes care of both types of tapeworms yesterday, and it arrived a day early. Amazon Prime for you.
The DE will take a little bit to work. It has to come in contact with the worm then slice the worm. Then it dies from that. Not a fast way but it does work. It may take a week or two to fully work.
It is your dog and you are the one to make choices that are best for it. I am not there to see her first hand. If you feel the medicine is best you should use that.
It is your dog and you are the one to make choices that are best for it. I am not there to see her first hand. If you feel the medicine is best you should use that.
I gave it like 3 or 4 days. Meds came and I gave it to her. It was only $12, and is supposedly extremely effective, with little to no side effects, and she hasn't shown any so far. I am going to continue giving the DE to her anyways. She doesn't seem to mind it.
And we have success! Previous mornings I would find a live segment squirming around her behind or in her poo. This morning the poo was full of DEAD worms.
I'm thinking about ordering her a second dose of the stuff to give in a week or two just to make sure the problem is handled. The weather is starting to get really cold up here so I doubt there will be much risk of fleas in the coming months.
I'm thinking about ordering her a second dose of the stuff to give in a week or two just to make sure the problem is handled. The weather is starting to get really cold up here so I doubt there will be much risk of fleas in the coming months.
Don't double dose worm or especially flea treatment. Ask on pet forums specifically about whatever brand you got and see what they say about it.
The worms will be back mate, dogs are dogs and they like to sniff shit and do general dog stuff, which usually involves catching worms. You won't keep them away, but how often they need treating depends on a lot of things.
A lot of people swear by a bit of garlic in the food for fleas and worms and as a general tonic. Also look into seaweed powder for vitamins, minerals and dental health.
Get your dog eating as much variety of food as possible. When my girl was a pup I'd give her a tiny bit of tomato, carrot, stuff like that. Make it like I was giving a treat and throw it for her to catch... now she'll eat anything.
Find out what they can and can't eat. Stay away from onions and grapes, and certain nuts can kill a dog outright.
A meal I do for my dogs and cats is
Roast a chicken.
Take the main thigh and leg bones out (they splinter) (use them for stock if you cook)
Boil a handful or two of mixed veg
mix them together
Crush a clove or two of garlic and put it in (after cooking)
Part-fry a handful of cheap offal like beef heart & liver
pinch of salt
That'll feed a medium size dog for a good few days, is more nutritious than almost any canned/dry food you can buy, and is as cheap or cheaper. It can be mixed with rice as well.
Some info on garlic
- Garlic helps to eliminate worms, strengthens digestion and stimulates the intestinal tract (in a good way) and generally supports intestinal health. In this way, it can be a good choice for dogs making the transition to a fresh, raw diet.
- It is good for animals that are being fed a high-meat or fish diet, overweight dogs and those that suffer from hip pain, arthritis or dysplasia.
- Garlic is also a potent anti-fungal agent and can be used topically for fungal skin infections.
- For helping to clear up cases of hay fever, seasonal allergies, kennel cough or other respiratory ailments, Garlic is useful due to its action as a strong expectorant, helping to clear the lungs and kill bacteria.
- Garlic is naturally anti-bacterial and can be supplemented to help treat any condition caused by bacteria, internally or externally.
- In studies, garlic has been shown to reduce blood-sugar levels in diabetic dogs and humans.
- One of garlic’s most publicized benefits is its ability to lower blood cholesterol and improve circulation.
- Garlic supports the production of white blood cells, strengthening your dog’s resistance to infections of all kinds.
