Conroy has filed a "MMAR Cross Appeal" in response to HC's Appeal of the Injunction

[bobthegrower]

If you do have a licence .DO NOT sign up for an LP. Keep growing or you lose it.

 

[bobthegrower]

And Never go over your numbers...or you lose it.

HOLD it tight.

And have at it!

 

[ganja_guru]

Sounds good to me.....

Cheers GG.

 

[med-man]

And Never go over your numbers...or you lose it.

HOLD it tight.

And have at it!

great advice

but i have seen police just cut down wht you arent allowed to have, noone loses their licenses beuase of plant number overages, even if they get chrged

med-man

 

[GodsCronik]

Having held DG#1 It will be as follows....

Judge make descision.....Allow current Growers to grow. Get all new applicants to buy from LP's.

Gov't happy....All new ones have to do the new rules. Big Biz get the molah.

Old growers happy..... they get to keep growing.

JUDGES happy (You know how they hate to challenge each other) the first judge make right descision and they all get to follow suit. Baaaaa

Everyone happy.

Eventually it all get legit.

Capiche?

If they are going to allow old patients to keep growing based on a constitutional challenge RE:the price of access to meds then they wont be able to grandfather older patients and not allow new ones to obtain licenses to grow, the constitution cant have grandfather clauses or be unequally applied to citizens of the country.

 

[Buddha1]

Having held DG#1 It will be as follows....

Judge make descision.....Allow current Growers to grow. Get all new applicants to buy from LP's.

Gov't happy....All new ones have to do the new rules. Big Biz get the molah.

Old growers happy..... they get to keep growing.

JUDGES happy (You know how they hate to challenge each other) the first judge make right descision and they all get to follow suit. Baaaaa

Everyone happy.

Eventually it all get legit.

Capiche?

If they are going to allow old patients to keep growing based on a constitutional challenge RE:the price of access to meds then they wont be able to grandfather older patients and not allow new ones to obtain licenses to grow, the constitution cant have grandfather clauses or be unequally applied to citizens of the country.

I have to agree with "GodsCronik"...It is unconstitutional to grandfather the original MMAR patients and not allow new patients under financial distress the same opportunity because it will cause them irreparable harm as well. Irreparable harm do to financial distress is one of the main reasons the injunction was even granted.

The proper thing for Heath Canada to do is allow all the eligible MMAR patients to continue self production and implement a new program that allows all new patients that are also under financial distress a place to make application for a home production license. This would allow all those that can't afford to buy from LP's the right to grow there Medical MJ and those not under financial distress and capable of purchasing from LP's to buy there Medical MJ from the Licensed Producer's. Putting this new program into force before the Constitutional Challenge's hearing date of Feb. 15, 2015.

But unfortunately Heath Canada has never done the proper thing, where Medical MJ is concerned.

IMHO...I believe the judges will have no choice but to side with Constitution and the patients. The Constitution is the law of, and for, the Canadian people and the basis for all beliefs for judges and lawyers alike. But they will also feel a loyalty to the federal government as well, putting them in a vicarious position...damned if they DO and damned if they DON'T.

This is just my opinion, but I predict, the judges will make everyone happy government and patient. With "Grandfathering" of all old and eligible MMAR patients, with the "Grandfathering" being attached to the existing address. This will allow all the old patients to continue self supply until they move, and will also insure the government that eventually there will be no one growing there own Medical MJ in Canada. It will also insure the MMPR program to continue, eventually becoming the successful program Heath Canada in visioned.

I would like to see the judges act without bias, and the government to do the right thing for all the patients of Canada, but I have been alive long enough to know better.

Here's too...Crossing our fingers, with hopes that I am proven wrong.

Peace...B

 

[GodsCronik]

I have to agree with "GodsCronik"...It is unconstitutional to grandfather the original MMAR patients and not allow new patients under financial distress the same opportunity because it will cause them irreparable harm as well. Irreparable harm do to financial distress is one of the main reasons the injunction was even granted.

The proper thing for Heath Canada to do is allow all the eligible MMAR patients to continue self production and implement a new program that allows all new patients that are also under financial distress a place to make application for a home production license. This would allow all those that can't afford to buy from LP's the right to grow there Medical MJ and those not under financial distress and capable of purchasing from LP's to buy there Medical MJ from the Licensed Producer's. Putting this new program into force before the Constitutional Challenge's hearing date of Feb. 15, 2015.

But unfortunately Heath Canada has never done the proper thing, where Medical MJ is concerned.

IMHO...I believe the judges will have no choice but to side with Constitution and the patients. The Constitution is the law of, and for, the Canadian people and the basis for all beliefs for judges and lawyers alike. But they will also feel a loyalty to the federal government as well, putting them in a vicarious position...damned if they DO and damned if they DON'T.

This is just my opinion, but I predict, the judges will make everyone happy government and patient. With "Grandfathering" of all old and eligible MMAR patients, with the "Grandfathering" being attached to the existing address. This will allow all the old patients to continue self supply until they move, and will also insure the government that eventually there will be no one growing there own Medical MJ in Canada. It will also insure the MMPR program to continue, eventually becoming the successful program Heath Canada in visioned.

I would like to see the judges act without bias, and the government to do the right thing for all the patients of Canada, but I have been alive long enough to know better.

Here's too...Crossing our fingers, with hopes that I am proven wrong.

Peace...B

Well thought out reply, thanks for giving my some food for thought today.

 

[bobthegrower]

that will work for me.

Never going to move.

Always had faith in the judiciary.....never the government(they seem to come and go)

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

it shouldnt matter if you are in financial stress in any way. Why should you be forced to buy from some other grower for any reason? Many people prefer their own product to any other.

 

[med-man]

Use existing models of established markets

Liquor
Tobacco
Pharmaceuticals

An average % of people who buy vs produce is the same for cannabis.

Most people I meet in life. Even in our industry hate growing. Laws won't change the current human condition. People don't like responsibility. And as we all know growing is a big one. Financially. Emotionally. Physically. Mentally. Even on a small scale.

med-man

 

[ganja_guru]

"Most people I meet in life. Even in our industry hate growing."

I have never met anyone that cultivates cannabis, say they hate it. That doesn't make sense to me. It's very rewarding and therapeutic to "reap what you sow". I think given the opportunity to grow your own cannabis, the majority would enjoy it. Granted there are some lazy people out there, who would rather sit on the sofa and eat bon bons all day, but laziness is not a condition it's a choice. I have no respect for laziness, lazy people are just floating along in life, expecting other people to provide for them. You only get back in life what you put into it. Not much of a life at all, and not very rewarding. What's the point of even being? If you can't except a challenge, and conquer it.

GG

 

[ilikbeans]

" most people i meet i life. Even in the industry hate growing"

Gald im not in ur circle of haters

Peace

 

[Mikell]

The hate probably comes from people that look to it purely as a source of income.

Granted there are some lazy people out there, who would rather sit on the sofa and eat bon bons all day, but laziness is not a condition it's a choice. I have no respect for laziness, lazy people are just floating along in life, expecting other people to provide for them. You only get back in life what you put into it. Not much of a life at all, and not very rewarding. What's the point of even being? If you can't except a challenge, and conquer it.

Met some growers like that before XD

 

[teemu shalanie]

don't they say when u start to cum with the clients its time to get outta the Biz,........

 

[Mikell]

I found that post helpful.

 

[ilikbeans]

" The hate probably comes from people that look to it purely as a source of income "

Sounds lik the MMPR ur talkn about ,medman and friends .

 

[med-man]

people read and qute a portion of my post then act like they understood what i said

growing is a responsabiltiy, ask dale Carnegie about the relationship people have responsability.

probably 0.5% of the world is producers. 99.5% consumers. do the math.

med-man

 

[fatburt]

people read and qute a portion of my post then act like they understood what i said

growing is a responsabiltiy, ask dale Carnegie about the relationship people have responsability

probably 0.5% of the world is producers. 99.5% consumers. do the math.

med-man

thats rubbish...ultimately,if you want pot,grow it!
noone should have to rely on others to do their work for them...unless to sick to do so....and 99.5 of the using cannabis population are not sick...

growing is the responsability of the individual....this is the problem with north america,we have become a nation of takers,

 

[fatburt]

I have to agree with "GodsCronik"...It is unconstitutional to grandfather the original MMAR patients and not allow new patients under financial distress the same opportunity because it will cause them irreparable harm as well. Irreparable harm do to financial distress is one of the main reasons the injunction was even granted.

The proper thing for Heath Canada to do is allow all the eligible MMAR patients to continue self production and implement a new program that allows all new patients that are also under financial distress a place to make application for a home production license. This would allow all those that can't afford to buy from LP's the right to grow there Medical MJ and those not under financial distress and capable of purchasing from LP's to buy there Medical MJ from the Licensed Producer's. Putting this new program into force before the Constitutional Challenge's hearing date of Feb. 15, 2015.

But unfortunately Heath Canada has never done the proper thing, where Medical MJ is concerned.

IMHO...I believe the judges will have no choice but to side with Constitution and the patients. The Constitution is the law of, and for, the Canadian people and the basis for all beliefs for judges and lawyers alike. But they will also feel a loyalty to the federal government as well, putting them in a vicarious position...damned if they DO and damned if they DON'T.

This is just my opinion, but I predict, the judges will make everyone happy government and patient. With "Grandfathering" of all old and eligible MMAR patients, with the "Grandfathering" being attached to the existing address. This will allow all the old patients to continue self supply until they move, and will also insure the government that eventually there will be no one growing there own Medical MJ in Canada. It will also insure the MMPR program to continue, eventually becoming the successful program Heath Canada in visioned.

I would like to see the judges act without bias, and the government to do the right thing for all the patients of Canada, but I have been alive long enough to know better.

Here's too...Crossing our fingers, with hopes that I am proven wrong.

Peace...B

HAS THE GOVERNMENT EVER BEEN FAIR?or practical,or lucid.....

 

[med-man]

you guys gotta get out more

med-man