approached by someone who wants to partner, did i get in over my head?

[Corpsey]

I can tell you this, you aren't the first one to lose a harvest, or even multiple harvests.
That's what icmag is for, learning from and with others. We all use pics to tell of plant damage and its worked for most of us so far.

Also, don't give up!
As growers we have to be like marines... Improvise, adapt, and overcome

 

[meadowman]

not sure if anyone covered this but i would def. have a gate at the end of my driveway if i were you.

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

you want pics of the plants I was growing? I mixed up the soil wrong for the clone that is yellowing so I gave it some guano tea about five days ago and it appears to have stopped yellowing but I've had it for over a week and it hasn't grown much. I have someone giving me advice and it seems to be working but over the course of a few days of messaging, a conversation that could've been spoken in about ten minutes took a few days of messaging when they had time and also, the time it took to write out the message. this issue could've been solved days ago when only one leaf was yellow and now I've taken about 6 leaves off. its just a little feller lol. I was just curious if anyone knows someone who's hired a consultant and what their experience was?

if you're curious about the fucked up grow here's the thread link although it isn't even going on right now
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=288218

here is the yellow clone

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

I can tell you this, you aren't the first one to lose a harvest, or even multiple harvests.
That's what icmag is for, learning from and with others. We all use pics to tell of plant damage and its worked for most of us so far.

Also, don't give up!
As growers we have to be like marines... Improvise, adapt, and overcome

i want to keep trying but my mom sees this as a huge waste of money and a few fuck ups here and there she can handle but this has been repeated fuck ups with no harvests for several months. she says its a waste of money and buying pot was cheaper after watching all of this. i thought that if i could just get one more harvest she would have something to smoke on and not be so wrapped up in the cost of it all. it worked last time and if i can have someone help me so i can have the least amount of fuck ups she will realize that this could work in the future. then i can try it on my own again where i can be better prepared to handle issues when they arise.

 

[MJBadger]

I do not grow indoor but I am pretty sure it`s mag deficiency caused by nute lock-up . Quit feeding like your trying to pump up the growth , a dose of Magnesium Sulphate should cure the problem .

If I`m wrong someone will point it out as the pic is very clear , you can see by the growth/greenery that they were healthy plants then this hit .

 

[shawkmon]

lol heres some advice , quit going to the hydro store and spending money . seeds are free , cuts are free, dirt is free , poop is free , piss is free , lol

quit doing things to your plants

advice = put plants in dirt, give plants water , put plant in sun or under light ,and then wait lol

its that fuckin easy , quit please god makin this harder than you have to. it is a weed it just grows like that. ya dont have to do anything.quit killing yer plants please jesus

advice = grow like ya think forest gump would. yer in college lol quit being a smart fucker and let the plant grow itself. seriously bro just stop fuckin thinking and you will have a harvest

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

it is in a water only soil that i bought from a local organic garden store who sells soil for cannabis and it came recommended by a few people. i then fed her a 1 tsp of Super Tea 0.5- 0.5 - 0.2 to one gallon of water with a teaspoon of kelp meal and molasses when this yellowing occurred.

also, being an ass and telling me to grow like forest gump really doesn't make me want to participate on forums and seek advice. don't need to kick a person while she's down bro.

 

[shawkmon]

sorry , didnt know you were a lady . on another note i wasnt trying to be a tool i just made every mistake there was to make . i wish i wasnt so smart that i had to make every mistake when all i had to do was grow like a retarded autistic kid . poke finger in dirt, drop seed in , cover with dirt , water . leave alone and wait . lol with a 15 plant limit and good sun ya could have 50 pounds in a month or 2 . damn the internet , get a wheelbarrel and and a shovel and make some huge mounds of dirt

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

this is indoors. if it was outdoors, money and this tension probably wouldn't be here.

 

[johndoe123]

Sorry For your Loss DDNugs. Its always hard losing time and money.... Not to mention the love for the plant... Positive Vibes your way and keep on truckin!

 

[bombadil.360]

hello doubledd,

you have at least two members here identify the issues with the plants.

over-feeding and over-watering are the most common mistakes growers make, specially among newbies and medium-level gardeners.

never trust the dude on the forums telling you to feed 10 different things to plants... for example, why on earth were you feeding molasses to those clones? they are still vegging, and the soil already has enough food to sustain their growth until you actually need to feed them once its roots are properly established and the growth becomes noticeable.

the actual rule for nutrient usage is that you always start at 1/4 recommended dose, and slowly build your way up; many times you never need to use the recommended dose anyway, specially indoors since indoor lights are weak and the photosynthesis they manage to evoke from plants is not enough to metabolize full dose nutes most of the time.

proper watering is super important; and it will depend a lot on your medium, and whether you are indoors or out.

I just had my first indoor experience helping out a friend, I've got extensive outdoor experience though, and the indoor environment is a delicate balance where a very light-hand needs to work on the plants; you can't go heavy like outdoors, where over-watering is not really an issue (only for water economy it is), and plants can eat up way faster due to the supreme light bulb a.k.a the sun.

I got some real shitty advice for my friend's indoor plants, and we ended up burning the shit out of them by using recommended doses; and over-watering too. but once the problem was identified, we simply backed-off and grew like forest gump very carefully, with delicacy (which for a woman should be less of a problem than for us male brutes), tons of patience too.

I really dislike indoor now and have nothing but respect for the quality indoor growers, so many details that must be properly maintained; check every single detail of your environment; temperatures, relative humidity, light distance from canopy, light intensity for your grow area (too little or too much? or enough?) etc... ventilation is very important: too much or too little? balance is key!

check three times over, keep a log of every detail, don't be lazy (not suggesting you are, just don't be) and take it seriously.

but once you have the environmental details down, the watering and feeding, it is all quite simple, just water carefully, feed lightly, and have tons of patience.

good luck!

 

[Scrappy-doo]

Hey DoubleDD, sorry to hear how stressed you are about this. Here's my view on hiring a consultant because I sort of do this. I don't advertise myself as such but I work with people who have no experience with growing and want to learn, or who are willing to have a garden in their house but don't want to grow it. 50/50 split. I do all the work they take all the risk. The deal is we go through a harvest start to finish.

For the people who want to eventually grow on their own I think it's a great deal because it takes a huge part of the learning curve off of it and they pretty much get a guaranteed bountiful harvest. Even though they have to give half to me they are very likely going to harvest at least twice as much as they normally would being a newbie and not knowing all the subtleties that are involved. As far as I'm concerned they are getting a great education and it's not costing much if anything, especially if there were a situation like yours where an issue comes up and not having the experience and knowhow the plants get fucked up and you have to start over.

The only issue with your situation is finding someone who is honest and trustworthy and not gonna rip you off but it sounds like you're in a legal state? I mean if it's safe enough that people are advertising consulting it should be fairly easy to vet someone. Get references from past customers, see pics/videos of their grows, find out what they have to offer, growing experience, specialties, etc. I don't know your exact situation but I do know there are people who do this in legal states that treat it like a business and are legit/won't rip you off. You just need to be good at vetting the right person.

I could understand someone wanting to just do it on their own but if you're that frustrated that you're considering quitting I'd say just hire someone who really knows what they're doing to get you through a harvest and get your mom to see how much cheaper it is to grow your own.

 

[Corpsey]

I hear you on the cost of just having a light going and not producing any bud. But that also should of been told to your mom as a possibility, nothing is a guarantee in farming.

If you do take a break and go back to buying herb at least keep your growing gear and give it another go later on. Also everyone is giving pretty sound advice here, which means we do care about you and want to see you succeed and overcome this. Good luck!

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

Thanks for your advice

I think it's going to work for the best.

 

[Corpsey]

I just looked at some of your plant photos and it seems like you were having more problems then just mag. Looks like the plants are poisoned, off gassing maybe? What type of tent did you have them in? Do they have metal poles?

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

they were poisoned by nuke em applications for broad mites lol. the only plants alive right now is the photo I shared above. one plant is very green but is growing great so far. it's strain specific. it's either nitrogen or mag def. thank you though!

 

[Grass Lands]

Until its legal and a contract can be signed...partners just dont mix,,,tried several and not a one had the work ethic I do...they can talk a mean line of shit, but when it got down to getting the job done...well that was a different issue....

 

[Dave Coulier]

they were poisoned by nuke em applications for broad mites lol. the only plants alive right now is the photo I shared above. one plant is very green but is growing great so far. it's strain specific. it's either nitrogen or mag def. thank you though!

Double D, my heart goes out to you for the problems in your garden. I and many others like us have had to struggle through similar problems when we began growing, but persevere and I think you'll be fine.

A bit of helpful advice I can give is to pick up a copy of Understanding pH Mangement for Container Grown Crops by Bill Argo and Paul Fisher. Also check out their excellent series Understanding Plant nutrition as well. You can find some of that info at www.greenhousegrower.com as well as many excellent videos like the ones in my signature.

Good luck, and stay strong.

 

[RonSmooth]

Why don't/didn't you tell him exactly what you told us?

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

Dave, your videos are what told me it's either N or Mg issues. I hear from almost every grower that they had issues at first and I sorta expected this but what I didn't expect was to have someone looking over my shoulder each time I make a mistake to point it out and tell me I'm not good. doing this at my mom's who is a perfectionist and sees $$ signs instead of mistakes as learning is what I think is making this impossible. every few weeks she is upset that there is no pot and there are expenses. I had to hide a commercial air pump I bought to brew tea because she can't understand why I can't just use my small air pump and will flip out when she finds out what it cost. trying to work with her and receive her advice on how I should be growing (because mom knows best) has been a challenge. she is making this a very unhappy experience and its just very stressful.

I went to the market to talk to the one consultant there to see if he knows of anyone who grows like I do and he had no clue what I was talking about recycled soil beds and then said something that sounded a little stupid to me and then I realized that I am not going to find someone that grows the way I want to grow entirely. they may grow big soil or they may use the same amendments but there is going to be something about the way the grow I could disagree with and then all my money, equipment, time, everything is wrapped up in this arrangement that can be touchy to break. I've been self employed for over 7 years and come from a family business where I worked my whole life. number crunching says that this would be stupid to further invest in and the amount of debt occurred to the possible outcome plus also factoring in the learning curve, just makes this a hobby that is going to be in the red for a long while. I can't afford to keep occurring expenses each time I screw up so that is why the consultant was appealing and I could possibly sell a portion of my yield to help pay off the debt making this something that can be worthwhile for the future. in all honesty, I am not sure what I'm going to do as it depends on her. I've been doing a lot of ass kissing but I think money would talk better.