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Israel, Palestinians agree to long-term truce in Gaza Strip conflict

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Storm Shadow

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bottle rockets vs Laser Guided USA TECH Bombs

How many parking lots did Hamas put holes in vs how many innocent women and children were slaughtered at the hands of a State that forces all of its citizens to do military service??

Israelis all must serve military service.... sounds like a peace loving democracy
 

bombadil.360

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whatever. The creation of the zionist state of Israel WAS itself a war crime, creating millions of refugees living for 6 decades in concentration camps) and it is this that has caused all the unrest. Dismantling it and replacing it with a state that fairly represents everyone is the only solution that will bring peace. Keep doing business as usual and brutalizing innocent civilians and their infrastructure, and one day it will be you that pays 5, 10 or 100 times a higher price in return! And you will well deserve it!


yeah yeah, sure buddy. keep reading propaganda and twisted history.

you wanna see aerial pictures of so-called Palestine before 48'?

it may just pop that bubble in which you live :wave:

factoid of the day: the name Palestine was given to the Land of Israel by the Roman Empire in order to weaken the link between the nation of Israel to its land.

there has never been any other Palestine except for that.

find me a Palestinian Liberation Armed Struggle when the Ottoman occupied Israel? how about when the Romans did? the Greek? none? how about that lol...

better yet, find me the official currency of so-called Palestine; oh there's none? must have been a pretty big country without currency lol...
 

Storm Shadow

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Its disgusting how anytime Israel is wrong...and proof is in the pudding...the trolls come out and call all of us propaganda fools...please...who the hell owns all of the Media, TV, Print, Digital ..etc... we all know the real answer nice try buddy


What did Jesus warn you guys about? He said his dad wasn't down with your Money Lending ways ... You killed him in response and every other prophet that came since to warn you of your ways....
 

Storm Shadow

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Declare your NUKES and sign the NPT ...quit crying poor me...nobody believe it anymore

WW2 movies given Oscars don't work anymore like back the day :)
 

Space Toker

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yes the state of Israel destroyed the entire ifrastructure. Putting people at the verge of starvation and disease with no water and electricity and other necessities of life. Brutalizing millions for the actions of a few dozen, that's not a war crime, yeah sure! fact is, other people have been living there before 1948 and they were displaced by land thieves, same thing in biblical days.
 

Storm Shadow

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Indigenous Inhabitants of the Middle East are not Fair skinned Blue Eyed Curly Hair Europeans... or Super Models like Jesus Christ

They are Brown Skin people just like a Modern Day Palestinian... Its been their home and will always be there home...
 

Space Toker

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There are people who I am sure are in favor of the extermination of entire races, whether that be Jewish or Palestinians or whoever. Violence only begets more violence. Once those responsible pay a hefty price financially and legally, as they should, and once justice prevails and a sensible state put in the place of a barbarous religious fanatical one (that applies to both parties), peace will prevail and people can start to respect each other as humans again!
 

bombadil.360

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Indigenous Inhabitants of the Middle East are not Fair skinned Blue Eyed Curly Hair Europeans... or Super Models like Jesus Christ

They are Brown Skin people just like a Modern Day Palestinian... Its been their home and will always be there home...


it just goes to show how little do you really understand about genetics. not surprising though.
 

Space Toker

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Few rockets? We're talking about 1000's of rockets. And im pretty sure the rockets werent fired off to hit nothing....

I thought you were more sensible than this! How many people has Israel killed in 60 plus years vs the opposition? Who has brutalized the other's infrastructure more? Anyone with any intelligence cannot say the ends justify the means and that this is right! It is far from right and those responsible for the deaths should be punished as the war criminals they are! Punishing an entire group of people for a few is never right, and punishing the people for voting for a freely elected govt they don't approve of is also not right. And as the government, they don't have the right to a military like every other country has, and the right to defend themselves and fight occupation? Ok disarm them, but be fair and disarm every country. Why the double standard?
 

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Israel, Palestinians agree to long-term truce in Gaza Strip conflict

Then one of the Hamas twats will fire up a rocket , the shit will hit the fan & all hell will break loose again . But what do I know?
 

Space Toker

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Bom... you are a nut my friend!;) Peace is possible anywhere, if you take away the double standards and learn to respect each other. Thanks for creating this thread Storm Shadow, much needed to express one self and relieve pent up rage. No one wants to lose their health or become a madman over this. This is why peace is the only answer, but true peace can only happen if crimes against humanity are addressed and dealt with. This is all that can be said, all that matters.
 

Space Toker

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and that rocket will be destroyed or hit an empty lot, and then the true twat Israeli military will bomb what next? A mosque during a service, or just stick to schools full of children? And then hospitals that are barely functioning as it is? I don't know how a few nuts with rockets can enrage you more than a brutal bully aggressor that kills far more innocent people? Unless we are being racist here and saying they are not people or a lower form of people? Sounds a lot like nazi mentality to me but what do I know?
 

bombadil.360

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Bom... you are a nut my friend!;) Peace is possible anywhere, if you take away the double standards and learn to respect each other. Thanks for creating this thread Storm Shadow, much needed to express one self and relieve pent up rage. No one wants to lose their health or become a madman over this. This is why peace is the only answer, but true peace can only happen if crimes against humanity are addressed and dealt with. This is all that can be said, all that matters.

I agree with you up to a point.

sure, peace is possible, in fact, many Muslims and Jews in Israel are good friends with each other and live respectfully next to each other on a daily basis out here. so it is already a fact on a small scale.

problem is, that this whole mess is not really about land, but about an extremist interpretation of Islam, that dictates all Jews must be exterminated. and until people understand that, there will be no progress.
 

bombadil.360

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Unless we are being racist here and saying they are not people or a lower form of people? Sounds a lot like nazi mentality to me but what do I know?


You mean how the government of Gaza, Syria, Lebanon and Iran, to name just a few, think of the Jews? as a lower form of people that must be exterminated, right?

'cause that is the fact of the matter.
 

resinryder

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Why the double standard?

Yeah why the double standard?
I suppose if your neighbor constantly lobed rockets into your house/property/neighborhood. Then publicly, loudly, and proudly at every chance in state sponsored media, mosque, and on the world stage declared that you, Space Toker and family, should be exterminated/wiped from the face of the earth. And then as that's not enough then taught in their schools/families that you and your family feasted on the babies of your enemies, you'd just stand up and ask for more please?
Think I'd do everything I could to squash those indiscriminately firing those rockets my way.
Israel is surrounded by governments/extremist that want nothing more than to see them wiped from the face of the earth. Israel just wants to be left alone but the people you're defending here will have none of it. Not a double standard. Just the way it is.Until the surrounding Arab governments commit and really commit to live in peace, which they won't because it unites them in their hatred, Israel will continue to do what they do, and have learned to do, if you have any understanding of history, and that being, protect themselves at any cost.
 
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Space Toker

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See, this is what I am talking about Bom..! I admit at times when enraged about this I had crazy thoughts, and I am not involved with this conflict. So you can imagine how much more intense those feelings are for those who live in these combat areas. I may feel rage for a few seconds, but then I realize that and the feelings it spawns will never solve anything and what is needed is peace.

I did not agree with all you said, in fact very little, but we are talking and learning to respect each other and each other's viewpoints. That is what is needed over there too. Yes, I am sure you are right about people on both sides not valuing the humanity and rights of the other. That has to stop. Construction, not destruction, respect and not resentment, and progress will be made. Let's all support peace and not war. thanks for trying to be reasonable. I hope I was as well.
 

Harry Gypsna

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when your neighbor thinks of you this way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fic15V8ChE

he may get hurt, or worst.

why don't you want to learn? Never Again.


What were Isreali people cheering when a school full of PEOPLE WHOM THE IDF HAD TOLD TO SHELTER THERE was bombed?
Oh that's right, "There's no more school in Gaza"

More people killed every single day of the last little land grabbing exercise (Livable territory in Gaza reduced by almost half for another land grabbing buffer zone), than those rockets have killed in the last decade.
Another land theft in the West Bank announced today. (People say how is the WB connected to Gaza...it's called Solidarity!)

I believe Isreal has a right to exist. I believe Isrealis have a right to live in peace.
I do not believe that loony ultra zionists* have a right to the mythical (and it is a myth,) Greater Isreal.

*I have no problem with Zionism in the sense of the movement to create a state of Isreal, but the nutty ones like Bennet and the **** who was calling for all the people of Gaza to be in camps are arseholes. As are the loony settler types, some of whom I used to live in a squat with, they were worse than the fucking Maoists in the same building..nuts!! By settler types I don't man families who move into a housing development, I'm talking about religious extremists who put a tent up in Abdul's olive trees, and the next day the army are there and the next week Abdul's trees and livlihood are gone, and the loonies are shitting in the water course.

Bibi is just completely dishonest. A few weeks ago he said (in Hebrew, never, ever in English!) that he could never countenance a sovereign palestinian state in the west bank, because security..... Never mind the fact that he said the same thing in his book 20 years ago, and actively sabotaged the Oslo accords.

The state of Isreal while ever it accepts unending Jewish immigration from all over the world, is inherently an expansionist entity, and there are lots of right wing religious extremists who believe that chunks of Egypt, lebanon and Jorda etc are part of the gift from the imaginary man in the sky. Books of mythology are not title deeds!

Finally, Arab Terroris. It is a bit rich for Isreal to whinge about bomb attacks.rockets etc, when the Terrorism of Haganah, Irgun and the Stern Gang were absolutely integral to the foundation of the state of Isreal. From the perspective of a palestinian looking at the History, The Jewish terrorists succeeded in their aims, so why shouldn't the Arabs?

I wonder where those little boys on the beach were hidhing their rockets? Maybe they were rockets, cunningly disguised as children?


I was quite pleased to see George Galloway's punched face though:biggrin:
 
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