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Stocking the Plantry: Chucks, Yucks and a Few F*ck-Ups
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Those are of great interest to me - though Im not sure I could say why exactly. The word black? I think with the Cuban my interest lies in the fact that it was isolated on an island. Though I don't know how likely it is that Dutch genetics might be wrapped up in it. Europeans vacation in Cuba - hard for Americans to think of Cuba that way.
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Hmm, good question Art. They should be 8ish, I think. I flowered the 1st 2 weeks under mh because my hps must have gotten bumped and didn't fire. The sativa-esque plants really didn't do anything during that time. They look like they'll go at least until mid-sept, but Im thinking more likely the end of sept.
Ill try to get a pic of the 3rd StrawD tonight. Its a hell of a lot prettier than the other two. No N clawing, tight and frosty buds - most likely the keeper if there is one.
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I cant wait to get the coco plants in there
ya got the long flowering on those, but you say ur holding out on a 3rd pheno.....lemme see! I was hoping to find the shorty faster girl in the beans i got left.
Did you mean those ^ sats Ill be growing?
Ace Congo - 5
Ace Golden Tiger - 5
Cannabiogen Nepal Highland - 5
Cannabiogen Destroyer fem - 1
Greenhouse Seeds Hawaiian Snow fem - 1
Seeds of Africa Malawi Gold - 2
And, not a sat:
Cannabiogen Peyote Purple - 4 (probably all female)
I would really like to pop all of these at the same time. Multiple clones of every plant, m/f. Then open pollinations for f2s, all the possible combinations and an all-inclusive orgy
Each little chuck will have to be done 1 at a time. Ill have to get a small tent and make a vent to the window to expel excess pollen.Ill need to convert my usual chuck space into a clone depository to save my keepers and all of the girls in virgin form from the chucks.
Ill need to grow out all those girls so that if theres a junk plant, I can dump her seeds. Or at least label them 'For Emergencies'.
I just might be a little crazy already T.
So many of the plants Ive grown are cookie-cutter with the plant before and the plant after. The potency, flavor, type of stone - all so similar. Ive probably thrown a 1/2 lb in the garbage so far. Given another 1/2 lb away.
I happened to be lucky enough to have my 1st couple dealers be well into their 40s. Guys who managed to hold onto a connect or two from the early 70s. That made me lucky enough to occasionally get golden/light brown, non-bricked Mexi weed. Long, thin buds that seemed sometimes to be more stem than flowers. Weed that actually got you high. Sometimes giggly, euphoric, vertigo inducing and would last for a few hours.
I really want some of that back in my life.
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Shit, sorry Art. I got slapped on 3 fronts in regular life. Ill get that pic sometime this weekend
So many of the plants Ive grown are cookie-cutter with the plant before and the plant after. The potency, flavor, type of stone - all so similar. Ive probably thrown a 1/2 lb in the garbage so far. Given another 1/2 lb away.
I happened to be lucky enough to have my 1st couple dealers be well into their 40s. Guys who managed to hold onto a connect or two from the early 70s. That made me lucky enough to occasionally get golden/light brown, non-bricked Mexi weed. Long, thin buds that seemed sometimes to be more stem than flowers. Weed that actually got you high. Sometimes giggly, euphoric, vertigo inducing and would last for a few hours.
I really want some of that back in my life.
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Shit, sorry Art. I got slapped on 3 fronts in regular life. Ill get that pic sometime this weekend
SLH is really good! Eyes light up when Im asked what Im twisting and I answer SLH. No kidding - Oooos and Ahhhs. Just not super cerebral. Its just about all in the head but the haze makes it... hazey. Always the the 1st jar to go empty if I don't slap my hand away. MM is usually right behind it - good night-night smoke.
Ever see the South Park episode where Mr. Mackey gets high and his head is a balloon on a string? Im looking for some of that. Something that's astral-like, taking my mind right out of my body.
Ever see the South Park episode where Mr. Mackey gets high and his head is a balloon on a string? Im looking for some of that. Something that's astral-like, taking my mind right out of my body.
Here you go AS. Pic sucks. You can see how much smaller the buds are - no colas on this girl.
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Finally got around to potting clones and seedlings - after 2 months in 5 oz cups! This MM was shooting roots up from the bottom. I wonder if a new part of the plant would have broken soil. Can that even happen?
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So much for not letting the coco get too dry. I went beyond that - pots were top heavy. No signs of stress at all. Im sticking with 5.8.
Seeing some gnats or fruit flies. Don't think theyre fungus gnats, their form is all wrong. Gonna go ahead and treat the soil as if theres an invasion going on. Ill start with a neem oil spray and drench. I still need to order something for less toxic treatments than what I was using in dirt.
Whatever the buggers are, they don't seem to be injuring the plants.
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Finally got around to potting clones and seedlings - after 2 months in 5 oz cups! This MM was shooting roots up from the bottom. I wonder if a new part of the plant would have broken soil. Can that even happen?
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So much for not letting the coco get too dry. I went beyond that - pots were top heavy. No signs of stress at all. Im sticking with 5.8.
Seeing some gnats or fruit flies. Don't think theyre fungus gnats, their form is all wrong. Gonna go ahead and treat the soil as if theres an invasion going on. Ill start with a neem oil spray and drench. I still need to order something for less toxic treatments than what I was using in dirt.
Whatever the buggers are, they don't seem to be injuring the plants.
How Im going to run my pots.
These are my pots - 8"w x 7"h. Theyre actually plastic. Very thin, don't know how much light will get through them. Ill double up if I have to.
Im putting 5 fistfuls of clay pebbles on the bottom. Covering that with a square of window screen as a pot liner to keep the coco from settling into the clay. If I double up, Ill skip the liners.
Im doing this for 2 reasons. The obvious increase in air circulation, being the 1st. The 2nd is Im hoping that if I need to be away and I cant feed on time, that I can use the tray as a mini res and the clay as a wick. Nothing for extended periods - just something to buy me a few more hours if I need them.
Shot with coco dressing.
I got the screen so I could line a milk crate and use that to rinse my coco, instead of doing it in a spare pot. More, faster, with an increase in the removal of fine particles.
These are my pots - 8"w x 7"h. Theyre actually plastic. Very thin, don't know how much light will get through them. Ill double up if I have to.
Im putting 5 fistfuls of clay pebbles on the bottom. Covering that with a square of window screen as a pot liner to keep the coco from settling into the clay. If I double up, Ill skip the liners.
Im doing this for 2 reasons. The obvious increase in air circulation, being the 1st. The 2nd is Im hoping that if I need to be away and I cant feed on time, that I can use the tray as a mini res and the clay as a wick. Nothing for extended periods - just something to buy me a few more hours if I need them.
Shot with coco dressing.
I got the screen so I could line a milk crate and use that to rinse my coco, instead of doing it in a spare pot. More, faster, with an increase in the removal of fine particles.
best pictures from you ever
jkinIf you went with smart pots, you could do straight coco. They breathe, no need to put anything else in there.
I think you'll be over it after harvest when it comes time to reuse.
Do a tester. 1 plant without the oohs and ahhhs and compare.
If those fabric pots work like smart pots, you ganna lose valuable root space, imo.
Also Idk about you, but for me, I see purchases for the grow as investments. Learned hard and quick what makes a good purchase vs a bad one.
I'd invest in some Smartpots man. You'll have the comfort of knowing hte material the pot is made from is safe for your plants, its going to last you years and made in da usa brotha! Its worth it man. My grow store sells the 2 gallon smartpots for 2.50 a pop. and cheaper upon bulk. And you can do some badass shit with a smartpot like plant the whole pot into the ground and the plant will root out the pot, and later, you can dig it back up and out again!!!
curious to see how this works, shit might just be revolutionary
I'm just saying this cause you could save time money and energy by just going coco or a mix and no hempy style. I know you have em sit in saucers which is PERFECT. Passive hydro, but it won't be easy with hydroton on the bottom, unless its only a few pebbles thick, dunno... i'll shut up... dabbed out
best pictures from you ever
If you went with smart pots, you could do straight coco. They breathe, no need to put anything else in there.
I think you'll be over it after harvest when it comes time to reuse.
Do a tester. 1 plant without the oohs and ahhhs and compare.
If those fabric pots work like smart pots, you ganna lose valuable root space, imo.
Also Idk about you, but for me, I see purchases for the grow as investments. Learned hard and quick what makes a good purchase vs a bad one.
I'd invest in some Smartpots man. You'll have the comfort of knowing hte material the pot is made from is safe for your plants, its going to last you years and made in da usa brotha! Its worth it man. My grow store sells the 2 gallon smartpots for 2.50 a pop. and cheaper upon bulk. And you can do some badass shit with a smartpot like plant the whole pot into the ground and the plant will root out the pot, and later, you can dig it back up and out again!!!
curious to see how this works, shit might just be revolutionary
I'm just saying this cause you could save time money and energy by just going coco or a mix and no hempy style. I know you have em sit in saucers which is PERFECT. Passive hydro, but it won't be easy with hydroton on the bottom, unless its only a few pebbles thick, dunno... i'll shut up... dabbed out
Looks good man. I'm about to fill my smartpots too. Going the same route as you are but im using silica rocks so i dont have to use Protekt or any other silica liquid product. I'm gonna line them with a good 2 inches but no screen. Then a mix of coco and silica rock aka "Hygromite."
The roots will grow all the way to the bottom an it will cause root rot if left to sit too long in the run off. Been there done that with my ebb an gro system when i tried to run it with smartpots as the inner pot. Just a fair warning brotha.
Not yet Bud. Gotta get this 1st coco round in the plantry and the next repotted 1st. 2-3 weeks and Ill be popping those like Jiffy on the stove
Thanks for the info Art. Not going to leave run off in the saucers - just fresh nutes. And Ill only fill them to the very bottom of the pot. Like I said, its only for those times I know Im going to be delayed - not on the reg at all.
Its taken awhile, but I know all too well how bad too much water in dirt in a conventional pot can hamper a grow. Keep the tips coming.
Got grow glasses coming so Ill have some StrawD pics for ya real soon.
LC - We will see, bro. Water just flows out of these pots unimpeded - doesn't even think about pooling. These are super cheap, like a buck and chump change per pot - and made in the good ol US of A too.
I left the pebble layer super shallow (you can still see the pot bottoms through it), that's why Im using the screen. If I didn't use screen, the pebbles would be completely useless. The coco would settle in with the 1st feeding.
You know me homie- always trying something different. Nothing unorthodox or new - mostly just super cheap. So many changes this upcoming round that Im really just starting all over again.
I have 2 MMs going coco round 1 and I am going to run 1 with the fancy shtuff - 1 straight coco. No need to shuttta you mouth. Might give me something to chew on that I haven't considered.
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If any of y'alls interested, Ill have some Crap pics up in about an hour. Gotta feed my minions - the natives are getting restless.
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Edit: Reflection: When I started this whole debacle 3 years ago I was just vegging some bag seed under T12s. I had no intention of budding them, just wanted something to do. Wanted to see if I could do better than the 1st time I grew indoors 20 years ago. At that time I had 3 shoplights and 6 plants (thankfully all girls - I wouldn't have known the difference). I didn't know shit about feeding, light schedules, nothing.
All I had was a memory of a HT article that claimed you could grow weed with flouro tubes. I got an 1/8 combined off those plants. $100 for an 1/8! But it was better than the weed I got the seeds from. Then I tried set-n-forget OD a few times. Never got shit from those. Pests, animals and rippers got those. It was another 17 years before I tried again.
Thanks for the info Art. Not going to leave run off in the saucers - just fresh nutes. And Ill only fill them to the very bottom of the pot. Like I said, its only for those times I know Im going to be delayed - not on the reg at all.
Its taken awhile, but I know all too well how bad too much water in dirt in a conventional pot can hamper a grow. Keep the tips coming.
Got grow glasses coming so Ill have some StrawD pics for ya real soon.
LC - We will see, bro. Water just flows out of these pots unimpeded - doesn't even think about pooling. These are super cheap, like a buck and chump change per pot - and made in the good ol US of A too.
I left the pebble layer super shallow (you can still see the pot bottoms through it), that's why Im using the screen. If I didn't use screen, the pebbles would be completely useless. The coco would settle in with the 1st feeding.
You know me homie- always trying something different. Nothing unorthodox or new - mostly just super cheap. So many changes this upcoming round that Im really just starting all over again.
I have 2 MMs going coco round 1 and I am going to run 1 with the fancy shtuff - 1 straight coco. No need to shuttta you mouth. Might give me something to chew on that I haven't considered.
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If any of y'alls interested, Ill have some Crap pics up in about an hour. Gotta feed my minions - the natives are getting restless.
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Edit: Reflection: When I started this whole debacle 3 years ago I was just vegging some bag seed under T12s. I had no intention of budding them, just wanted something to do. Wanted to see if I could do better than the 1st time I grew indoors 20 years ago. At that time I had 3 shoplights and 6 plants (thankfully all girls - I wouldn't have known the difference). I didn't know shit about feeding, light schedules, nothing.
All I had was a memory of a HT article that claimed you could grow weed with flouro tubes. I got an 1/8 combined off those plants. $100 for an 1/8! But it was better than the weed I got the seeds from. Then I tried set-n-forget OD a few times. Never got shit from those. Pests, animals and rippers got those. It was another 17 years before I tried again.
Do ya have any enzyme product to use? I ask because the few times ya do need to fill the saucers, a product like Cannazyme will help prevent the rot from being left to sit in water.
Just came up with a crazy idea. Sitting a smart pot in a high lip saucer on top of a airstone for these times ya need to go away. They make disc shaped air stones that would be perfect for this. Sorry, ya got my gears turning lol.
Just came up with a crazy idea. Sitting a smart pot in a high lip saucer on top of a airstone for these times ya need to go away. They make disc shaped air stones that would be perfect for this. Sorry, ya got my gears turning lol.
Let em turn! I do have 1 disk stone. Good idea! No enzymes yet. Looking Hygro and Canna - not sure which I want to try. Hygro has buku enzyme components but I don't know if any more than the dozen in Canna (and what was that other?) is needed.
Have you tried any other besides Canna? And why did you go with it?
Have you tried any other besides Canna? And why did you go with it?
I tried hygrozyme for a while an didnt like it as it didnt work well with chem nutes for me IMHO. Cannazyme, and H&G's Multi Zen worked great for me.
I tried Multi Zen cause i was running H&G at one point. Good nutes but Canna was better in the flavor dept. I advocate Canna because IMHO it does not adulterate the flavor of strains like making them have that "sweet" taste. Nothing worse that a sweet tasting OG. Cannazyme works wonders as long as the date is good an kept in cool temps. It can go bad fast in the heat.
I tried Multi Zen cause i was running H&G at one point. Good nutes but Canna was better in the flavor dept. I advocate Canna because IMHO it does not adulterate the flavor of strains like making them have that "sweet" taste. Nothing worse that a sweet tasting OG. Cannazyme works wonders as long as the date is good an kept in cool temps. It can go bad fast in the heat.
hygrozyme not work well with chems? lol and you called me crazy!
Dam, go buy 1 smartpot, the water doesn't flow out hte sides of those, it has less resistance in the medium than thru the canvas. Just ot compare, lol
look for a local indoor gardening expo, I got three 3gallons for free and a 5 gallon for free. Oh and one 1 gallon
Next indoor garden expo, ima be walking out with LOADS of free shit that I need lol. FUcking load up on everything like a kid on halloween at those expos lol
Dam, go buy 1 smartpot, the water doesn't flow out hte sides of those, it has less resistance in the medium than thru the canvas. Just ot compare,
lol look for a local indoor gardening expo, I got three 3gallons for free and a 5 gallon for free. Oh and one 1 gallon
Next indoor garden expo, ima be walking out with LOADS of free shit that I need lol. FUcking load up on everything like a kid on halloween at those expos lol
