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beautifully written, started of noble then opinionated.
Thomkal Vwalaa
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Jones’ Freemason’s Guide and Compendium also indicates the early use of the Bee Hive as a Masonic symbol. “On old jewels, tracing-boards, lodge furniture, banners, summonses, certificates, etc., the beehive with its flying bees is often a prominent symbol, and in at least one case is to be found in a lodge seal…. As far back as 1724-27, a Masonic pamphlet speaks at length of the bee and the beehive as a symbol.”
The bee is a very energetic insect that never appears to rest from sunup to sundown. As a result, the bee and the bee hive have long been symbols of industry or work. Masonically, the Bee Hive is an emblem of industry and the lecture strongly recommends that virtue be practiced by everyone. It suggests that we should never be idle, especially when we can assist our fellow man by being industrious.
The bee is a hard and tireless worker, not for himself but for the swarm. The bee works in complete cooperation with the other bees and does so without dissension. The bee protects the queen, refuses admittance to enemies, builds, makes honey, and lives in a society ruled by order. Man must work as a unit to accomplish great things. The builders of old worked as a unit to build the great cathedrals. He could not work alone and expect to build the mighty edifice. Every man had to do his part, take pride in his assignments, and work in cooperation to complete the cathedrals.
To close the discussion, the following description of the Bee Hive is taken from the Monitor of the Lodge. The Bee Hive is an emblem of industry, and recommends the practice of that virtue to all created beings, from the highest seraph in the heavens to the lowest reptile of the dust. It teaches us that, as we come into the world endowed as rational and intelligent beings, so we should ever be industrious ones; never sitting down contented while our fellow creatures around us are in want, when it is in our power to relieve them, without inconvenience to ourselves.
When we take a survey of nature, we view man in his infancy more helpless and indigent than the brute creation; he lies languishing for days, months and years, totally incapable of providing sustenance for himself, or guarding against the attack of wild beasts of the field, or sheltering himself from the inclemencies of the weather.
It might have pleased the great Creator of heaven and earth to have made man independent of all other beings; but, as dependence is one of the strongest bonds of society, mankind were made dependent upon each other for protection and security, as they thereby enjoy better opportunities of fulfilling the duties of reciprocal love and friendship. Thus was man formed for social and active life; the noblest part of the work of God; and he that will so demean himself as not to be endeavoring to add to the common stock of knowledge and understanding, may be deemed a drone in the hive of nature, a useless member of society, and unworthy of our protection as Masons.
As Masons, we must imitate the bee, be industrious, work with others and for others, take pride in our vocations, obey the rules of our society, and strive to add to our body of knowledge and understanding. Otherwise we are useless members of society.
i have to take from my own head as im not a member.
Monitored by whom, people like yourself? Get a grip.
You do realize that the name calling and bullshit has been brought in here by folks such as yourself? You come in and call the Masons stupid...so you need only look in the mirror for a name caller.
Basically, you lack...and lack big, IMO. And what you are practicing is spelled hypocrisy. And the separation you spoke of is being practiced by YOU. Why did you enter in here? To call names and start bullshit...it's clear.
the masons appear (to me)to be agents of the crown and gown,, and generally very pro capitalism,,,
isnt it just all based on pythagorian/gnostic/osirian teachings ?
the same teachings that modern science does its best to avoid explaining at all cost,,
isnt it just all based on pythagorian/gnostic/osirian teachings ?
the same teachings that modern science does its best to avoid explaining at all cost,,
Yak yak yak...
Anyways, Capital G, back to the origins. The masons is definitely a good place to make some connections and new friends. I think it's romanticized a little bit too much with all the conspiracy stuff, but I'm not saying that doesn't exist. In the lower levels, its just a worldwide mens club.
My dad got involved Demolay then masons in his early years, but I think after he moved and started a family he was less into it. He took me to a meeting one time to see if I would be up for it, but to be honest, I didn't like any of the people. Everyone was too bourgeois to me, even the young kids seemed like the richie-rich oppressor class. I could tell my dad was thinking the same thing, he's a blue-collar worker, maybe it's something he didn't realize when he was young, or maybe it was just this particular lodge. I personally didn't want to get involved with people that I couldn't stand.
Anyways, it wasn't really for me, but I'd recommend checking it out. Go to a meeting, put your feelers out a bit, and see if you jive. Good luck.
Anyways, Capital G, back to the origins. The masons is definitely a good place to make some connections and new friends. I think it's romanticized a little bit too much with all the conspiracy stuff, but I'm not saying that doesn't exist. In the lower levels, its just a worldwide mens club.
My dad got involved Demolay then masons in his early years, but I think after he moved and started a family he was less into it. He took me to a meeting one time to see if I would be up for it, but to be honest, I didn't like any of the people. Everyone was too bourgeois to me, even the young kids seemed like the richie-rich oppressor class. I could tell my dad was thinking the same thing, he's a blue-collar worker, maybe it's something he didn't realize when he was young, or maybe it was just this particular lodge. I personally didn't want to get involved with people that I couldn't stand.
Anyways, it wasn't really for me, but I'd recommend checking it out. Go to a meeting, put your feelers out a bit, and see if you jive. Good luck.
One of the best non-member assessments I have seen yet, Kubarkid.
A can tell you that each lodge is going to have a different flavor of people, just as communities have different flavors of people. Sometimes those that we look at and get vibes from, are also looking at us and getting vibes. Often times neither thinks what the other expects them to be thinking. We often find that when we actually open up and share our thoughts and feelings with others that we don't necessarily feel a kinship with, we find that we have far more in common than not. When we break down the simple barriers that our mind creates, we can often find that things are far better than we suspected. We find that most all of us do share a kindred spirit.
And no, it isn't going to be everyone's cup o tea and that's for sure. Even with the best of intentions, it is hard to get used to hanging out with a crew of boring old men, which is probably the majority of (active) lodge memberships these days.
A can tell you that each lodge is going to have a different flavor of people, just as communities have different flavors of people. Sometimes those that we look at and get vibes from, are also looking at us and getting vibes. Often times neither thinks what the other expects them to be thinking. We often find that when we actually open up and share our thoughts and feelings with others that we don't necessarily feel a kinship with, we find that we have far more in common than not. When we break down the simple barriers that our mind creates, we can often find that things are far better than we suspected. We find that most all of us do share a kindred spirit.
And no, it isn't going to be everyone's cup o tea and that's for sure. Even with the best of intentions, it is hard to get used to hanging out with a crew of boring old men, which is probably the majority of (active) lodge memberships these days.
I am surprised that nobody has brought up the issue of there being cannabis users/growers within the ranks of Freemasons.
Obviously I am one of them. Many people who are Freemasons also enjoy cannabis. Granted the majority falls in line with the majority of the population, and probably even more bias against pot shown by the older members. But like all things, this has evolved a bit and just like in our communities, it is enjoyed by more and more. Heck, me and the Worshipful Master have been blown out of our skulls together on some of the kindest herbs grown by man.
Yes, there is a certain stigma that comes with the Masons, but most would probably be surprised at just how diverse the membership actually is. Do a search and see just who you find is in. You may find that people you idolize and adore are members.
Here is the only catch...everyone that is a Freemason had a want to be such, but not everyone that wants to be a Freemason will be.
This is indeed a segregation and to some segregation is a bad thing. In fact, it is this segregation that brings about all the conspiracy theories and bad feelings towards the craft.
But, if we don't separate the chaff from the wheat, bread really sucks.
Obviously I am one of them. Many people who are Freemasons also enjoy cannabis. Granted the majority falls in line with the majority of the population, and probably even more bias against pot shown by the older members. But like all things, this has evolved a bit and just like in our communities, it is enjoyed by more and more. Heck, me and the Worshipful Master have been blown out of our skulls together on some of the kindest herbs grown by man.
Yes, there is a certain stigma that comes with the Masons, but most would probably be surprised at just how diverse the membership actually is. Do a search and see just who you find is in. You may find that people you idolize and adore are members.
Here is the only catch...everyone that is a Freemason had a want to be such, but not everyone that wants to be a Freemason will be.
This is indeed a segregation and to some segregation is a bad thing. In fact, it is this segregation that brings about all the conspiracy theories and bad feelings towards the craft.
But, if we don't separate the chaff from the wheat, bread really sucks.
FieldMarshal420
Member
so your pops is a jew?
Bingo. If you sat down with someone who has the complete opposite political perspective as you, complete opposite religious views or morals, you will still find a common ground. If you put all of those things aside, you are just people living your daily life. That's what the masons are supposed to be all about. A place where people can put everything aside.
I don't know much about discussion topics and such in lodges, so maybe you can enlighten us Ku Baba. I'm guessing there's a mediator as well.
My thoughts on clubs, is that when you segregate people into a group, and discussions are involved, group attitudes can change, which can result in communal agreements. These agreements can be for the positive or negative. What I mean is, there could be a few members, who feel strongly about an idea, and eventually change the attitude of the other members towards this idea. This same thing happens in the workplace a lot. Subtle changes in perspective can lead you into larger ideas.
Back to my experience, my first impression of the people I met was that they had it so easy. I don't learn from these types of people that well, because the type of wisdom I seek seems to mostly come from struggle. I also choose to meet people in their natural environment, rather than in a group. Some of the most enlightened people I've met were in the streets.
thats some good shit there
Thomkal Vwalaa
Member
YesI. Group affiliation has nothing to do with life lessons learned.
I think ur lucky to be courted in such a way, not everyone is as fortunate. Some of the greatest (and even not so great) leaders of this country (USA) were and are still Masons. Good luck with it man....let us know.
GetUpStandUp
Active member
Very true, there are 2 Masonic lodges, and the Blue lodge is lower level, and does not have the deeper secrets of the latter. The real lodge not only is secret, it also has layers of other secret groups within. Just an example if a member loves little boys, they click up with other pedophiles within the order. Freemasonry is a vast rabbit hole of another world of which you my friend will never break from. The fact your father asked, and did not prep you for the order suggest its of the first Blue lodge, and not the deeper one. Just you posting this on this site, or any other site would be a no no, and a permanent baring from such society, meaning you failed the test. People get the Illuminati confused for Masonry just because of the crossing of other secret societies within. Illuminati is a Vatican order controlled by the Jesuit order. The Vatican itself has many many orders within, Opis Di, illuminati, Masonry, even a child sacrifice order called the 9th circle, which you really do not want to F with. Any secret society will lead you to the Vatican and the order and rituals of the 9th. Yale Skull and bones created the Boule which is a black order dating back to 1904, made up of 9 chapters and are the most spread out in the U.S than any order on earth, they too have Freemasons within it, every powerful black person(Opera, Obama, Jordan, Tyler Perry, Jay Z just to name a short few) will belong to it, as the title of Boule means advisors to the king. To be clear all orders are control by the Vatican. The Vatican is the oldest Corporation and first in the world, they spawned the new religion only after they killed every person who knew or practiced Jesus laws. They started the new religion, and manipulated it, and the Vatican is the False prophet of the book of Revelations. You may feel you can only gain from being a member of any of these groups, but in reality you lose self, you lose what you could be, you lose your soul. Just know you been warned, and know you are low level if indeed you are being sought out, to climb up to the level you think, takes not only someone to bring you in, but sacrifice, and yes if you make the higher level of 33d you may need to offer blood of someone you love. This nation we call America is the sacrifice of such orders and would be part of what you want to be part of, because you heard it from me, that coming the turn of the month we all will witness a nation wide sacrifice. The ISIS group will be a house hold name. It will be none other than our own people(CIA), and all orders know and work for this to be kept secret its planned. As of Sept or next week we will be very clear on the lie we all live here, and the start of the spiritual war, it already has begun.
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Wow. 4 year old Capital G thread lol.
Wow. 4 year old Capital G thread lol.
GetUpStandUp
Active member
You use the term "illumination" loosely.
How can one reach enlightenment when their belief system does not allow them.
As if a new member can even comprehend the idea let alone acept that the group holds knowledge of when Enoch was taken by ancient aliens and tought many skills including masonry and now the goal is dominate the planet to procure diamonds for cutting granite & diorite. Also to try and figure a way to save themselves from the destruction of the fourth world and even get into space.
Seriously a new member can even consider this? Then go back to reading his bible and have some trouble and a grand master will come to his aid? I doubt it! But the top of the food chain does. That is why they are using their resources to build D.U.M.B.S and denver airport lol
Illumination is not something that can be "provided".
Cut back on the fluoride bro. Your pineal is seizing up
I agree with everything you said minus the fallen teaching Enoch Masonry. The 2 pillars are directly linked to the secrets of his(Enoch) encounters with the fallen, it held the secrets of man on earth, and were actually real pillars that would withstand a great flood, that any survivor finding them could start life off with the secrets of life. These pillars coincide with the Stone Henge which is none other than a clock, or computer that tells time by astronomy of destruction of our planet every 3400-3600 years, hence needing the records to start life over again. The higher Masons know this, the lower do not. Enoch in affect was actually monumental in this 2 pillar secret within the order, as was King Solomon on other teachings. So in turn Enoch was first, then masonry. I love your intellect tho, and the knowledge you do have you are on point. I just had to clear that up about Enoch, as he is the key to all our lives. First time I ever hear some one else speak of the pineal in that regard. This is the main reason Enoch could sit and speak to the fallen. The fallen have no souls, the Pineal hold your soul. Enoch had dominion over the fallen because of this one fact. The pineal controls your height, which is why the offspring of the fallen mixed with human produced giants(Nephilims)as their was no pineal to control their growth, and a manipulation of the perfect DNA sequence God given man, thus why God warned Adam and Eve about mixing the bloodlines(IE Cain was the offspring of Lucifer, Adams seed was Abel), and is also why the fallen try their damness to be a living soul. Best believe it goes deeper to where you find that it involves dimensions and demons possessing humans to gain such souls, which was the main reason Jesus cast these fallen spirits out of people and into a host body like pigs, because they cannot live in our dimension without a soul. What is even deeper is in many D.U.M.B.s our military has been in direct contact with the fallen in doing genetic testing and research to create such a vessel they can dwell in, and call their own. The scientist community have already come forward that the mixing of human DNA with animal has already taken place called Cymeras. These are just by products of them hunting down Gods master DNA sequence to no avail. Some people call the fallen Alien by mistake. Knowing Enoch and knowing our dimension, and our bodies are God given we find we are greater than the fallen, as they live in a hell trying to get out. So the power of the reason the Vatican pulling the book of Enoch out of the original word means that they(VATICAN) is being controlled by the fallen. Need not to look at nothing more than Enoch being 1 of 2 beings that had not a physical death because their loyalty and pureness for their lord to prove that point. I love deep stuff, and love to dive into it, and love to see someone doing homework.
