The Not So Solventless Clear Concentrate From Harborside!

[MEMED]

Wow, going around in circles. I tell you guys, If I wasnt having todo this thing solo, and had a better credit score, Id be making exquisite concentrate with the aforementioned technology, for sure. With the info ive collected, and pieces ive placed, I really think that true progress can be made.
Id like to share a couple things I pretty much assume, yet seem to make sense and play out right. First i'll say I think that Sytze is the progressive thinker of the bunch. I think Dr. Raber spawned, and developed the idea. I think he put a buddy on so he could focus on the werc shop stuff, and them the spotlight of bringing the clear. The Cannaroma shit is what they used to get milestone to mess with them. Milestone is very leary of messing with us due to the climate. Youve got to have a legit scientific reason that they support to get the machine and service.
Thats all I have time for now. Back to the myst as I continue to sell all I own and whatever else I can do to try to raise the funds for this. Im still determined as F*K. Uphill as ever. Studying.


Im quite positive there could be a more stable product produced w/ this too then we are currently seeing. Wont know for sure till I have my unit or someone else does it...

 

[MEMED]

im pretty sure there not doing any other pre processing too. She does it all...

 

[MEMED]

I'd say that TMBs sample was homogenized, with either a lil bit of sumthing else that came over with the compound or ?? Didnt really look like a product of recrystallisation to me. Looks like homogenized wax of some structure to me.. thanks for sharing TMB!

 

[TickleMyBalls]

Exactly. Going around in circles indeed. No one wants to believe that not just anyone can obtain this technology. Licensed labs. And not the kind that produce dabs.

 

[flatslabs]

I don't want to derail the conversation, but don't think we are necessarily going around in circles. The Milestone NEOS is not the only SFME device on the market, it is not like companies haven't been doing this process for the last decade.

With that all said, I don't think that means that fractional steam distillation cannot produce a similar product, I think it would just be more cumbersome to deal as you are going to be left with some solvent to purge at the end (mostly water) and more time consuming. Maybe if I get bored this weekend I will sacrifice some garbage trim run wax and see what I can turn out in the name of science.

 

[Daub Marley]

I know for a fact they know how to do it. I will once again say that you guys are complicating it too much. Cannaroma and the clear came about at the same time... coincidence? I think not.

I think everyone is wasting time and money on their extraction tek. It removes the solvent to a great degree, but leaves you with a decarbed goo. I don't think there's really anything that special about it. Cannaroma is def in the clear. I've heard it from Dr. Rabber and the Clear guys. Its a fact.

First i'll say I think that Sytze is the progressive thinker of the bunch. I think Dr. Raber spawned, and developed the idea. I think he put a buddy on so he could focus on the werc shop stuff, and them the spotlight of bringing the clear.

Seems like someone knows the Werc shop quite well The Werc Shop introduced Cannaroma in the worst possible way, and it's a flop because of which. There's a hug hole in their business plan. They intend to test the terpene profiles of your strain, while at the same time using that data to recreate the terpene profile for their products. Its shady and stupid. If they were smart they would seek outside help or just fold it because the Cannaroma line will continue to eat at their testing business which is how they make most of their money.

Im quite positive there could be a more stable product produced w/ this too then we are currently seeing. Wont know for sure till I have my unit or someone else does it...

I think it's possible to do that, but would likely need another pricey lab machine to do it. The problem is that the natural % of terpenes to cannabinoids results in a sticky gooey consistency. The trichome is a perfect little encapsulation device, and solvents destroy them. That's the main reason I am back at square one. Dry sift. If you want a terpene rich concentrate that is flavorful and encompasses that natural profile of the plant, then you need to extract whole trichome heads and not use solvents. Once legalized the market will command a premium for natural solventless extracts (not the clear) while terpene added extracts will be the cheap crap that nobody really wants to smoke.

 

[Elements001]

wtf keeps going on in this thread?

I keep seeing people post pictures of these machines they believe to be creating the clear, they they are taken down almost the next day.

This thread really has turned into a fucking joke.

Peace.

 

[Elements001]

Its just pathetic people would go to such means to keep a shitty product "secret"

Good luck to the people that have time for the bs of a thread........

 

[Permacultuure]

By disproving the hundreds of other tests on non 'the raw' oils that show THEY are consistently undetectable levels of solvent. If non 'the raw' oil can match it's solvent profile, how can one be 'more clean' than the other ?

If both oils = 0, how is one 0 more 0 than the other ??




Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

The average RST abilities of most facilities is a joke.......so your right we can't......potency profiles say a lot. I'm not promoting it, just saying its a great product for much more than dabbing, and yes I still stand by it being the cleanest product available, hence the decarbed nature of it.......

 

[Permacultuure]

I know for a fact they know how to do it. I will once again say that you guys are complicating it too much. Cannaroma and the clear came about at the same time... coincidence? I think not.

Cannaroma is the Werc Shop, the Werc shop is responsible for the tek ect.

No one has ever denied or thought different. The Werc Shop/cannaroma isn't an instagram money flossing crew like clear and xtracted.....

 

[Permacultuure]

im pretty sure there not doing any other pre processing too. She does it all...

They definitely polish the product before using the "machine".....without polishing you get an egg yolk look and a tad lower numbers...

 

[TickleMyBalls]

Exactly what I was saying. I wasn't being so obvious about it, but yes, the clear came about because of the werc shop's experimentation with terpenes.

 

[dybert]

Clear actually came up with the tech. Cannaroma/Werc Shop only provided the terpene stuff and then later lab space for Clear to use.

 

[NEGT1]

Steam distilled hash gifted to my by DJ Short last summer.
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That looks like it was extracted from plant material.

What confuses me is that there are some contradictory statements being made by people suggesting they know.

 

[NEGT1]

Either way, i'm interested and will continue the search.

 

[WTFisLoud]

Interesting find

 

[TickleMyBalls]

That looks like it was extracted from plant material.

What confuses me is that there are some contradictory statements being made by people suggesting they know.

Yes, that is what I said in my very next post.

 

[G.O. Joe]

The desired process does not manufacture a controlled substance "directly or indirectly by chemical extraction". You can maybe put some sift or whatever on a screen over a boiling pot of water and steam off the volatiles and theoretically not get 3-7, but if you reverse this and the product is the part that distills with steam, that's the process that looks more like using water as chemical solvent.

That hash or whatever it is was not distilled from nugget or anything else, unless there are USB microscope pics - but even then, it wasn't. Is there much deception, hero worship, and want-to-believe in California? Believe GC/MS, sometimes. Does analysis of the Clear or any of the others show none of the hydrocarbons with a higher boiling point than THC?

Please make yourselves steel blunts and fire them up and end this already.

 

[SoulSynergySoil]

Steam Distilled Under Vacuum Pressure

Steam Distilled Under Vacuum Pressure

I've mentioned this several times, but here it goes again. I'm very certain that the Clear is made by taking resin and steam distilling under vacuum pressure, followed by readding terpenes to the terpene-stripped cannabinoids. Hence, the aroma of clear concentrates is consistently a standardized pinene of limonene.

Electrostatically purified dry sift ftw!

 

[DeMacho Labs]

So essentially, are you saying a rotary evaporator can accomplish the task? Because a rotary evaporator allows both pressure/heat.