Dud Identification Collective Knowledge.

[SourSmoke]

xxxstr8edgexxx- I was wondering why you are doing this for 3 hours? I'm finding thirty minutes is recommended. 110.3 for broad mites and 111.0 for some nematodes. Keeping the temperature constant is the challenge in warm water, insulation should help. I was able to keep cuttings at 109 degrees-111.5 degrees for thirty minutes yesterday, should be a reasonably good test of warm water tolerance. Watched the cuttings for the full half hour with two thermometers to make sure of the high and low temps

Hydroflasks are vacuum insulated and would help on keeping temps consistent. REI stocks them. Colds stay cold and hots stay hot the entire day. http://www.hydroflask.com/products/hydro-flask-insulated-water-bottle-32oz-large

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

xxxstr8edgexxx- I was wondering why you are doing this for 3 hours? I'm finding thirty minutes is recommended. 110.3 for broad mites and 111.0 for some nematodes.

 

[redlaser]

Can't find the source for that seed treatment chart above, do you remember where it came from? It's not unusual to find conflicting info but the times are way different from what I'm finding. The exposure times would be longer for seeds and bulbs but that's a large difference. .5 versus 2.5 hours.

 

[redlaser]

Hydroflasks are vacuum insulated and would help on keeping temps consistent. REI stocks them. Colds stay cold and hots stay hot the entire day. http://www.hydroflask.com/products/hydro-flask-insulated-water-bottle-32oz-large

This might possibly work, but I'm finding a larger 3-4 gallon container roughly ten inches across works best. A larger body of water holds temps better, and ten inches of surface lets you "float" the cuttings horizontally an inch below the surface.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

I am on the road til Monday. do a google image search.

 

[Grizz]

got the results back, no todes, this was a bud and root sample so if I get another dud I will do a stem test. thanks to my friend that got them tested

 

[unitedgrooves]

got the results back, no todes, this was a bud and root sample so if I get another dud I will do a stem test. thanks to my friend that got them tested

Did they find anything at all? What was it tested for? Do you have pictures of your DUD you sent in?

 

[Grizz]

Did they find anything at all? What was it tested for? Do you have pictures of your DUD you sent in?

as far as I know they were tested for everything . pic's are a few pages back in the thread

 

[unitedgrooves]

as far as I know they were tested for everything . pic's are a few pages back in the thread

Just saw your pic and I find it hard to believe they found no issues. Maybe the lab didn't actually test for everything, i know some tests require quite a bit of material then just roots and buds....

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

as retro predicted, plants died that were hot water soaked.
@redlaser.
the chart was from a seed soak ipm by ucdavis. i posted the link earlier in the thread.

 

[RetroGrow]

Yup. Cannabis cannot take hot water. But hot air? Different story totally. Can take 120F, no problem. Some have gone as high as 130, although not necessary, or recommended. 120 will kill BMs, cyclamens, and nematodes in seeds and I'm guessing plants, although I have not tested it. It will take a longer time period though. There's a chart posted somewhere back there in one of my links. Too lazy to look for it now. Seeds are a different story, and formalin should be added to the hot water. They should be thoroughly dried afterward to prevent mold spores or seed germination. Although, what I've read tonight suggests that the nematodes kill the seeds they parasitize, so that's a bit more conflicting information. It says that nematodes can live up to 30 years in seeds, and eventually kills them. Would like clarification on that. May just be a certain type though. Not sure.

http://www.apsnet.org/edcenter/intropp/PathogenGroups/Pages/IntroNematodes.aspx

 

[HUGE]

sour dubb

sour dubb

I have a sour dubb at 7 weeks that basically just looks wrong. Its Tue only dubb I have and everything else in the room is fine. Is this the "dud" ?

 

[BB420]

sour dub should be renamed to sour dud !

 

[Storm Shadow]

I have a sour dubb at 7 weeks that basically just looks wrong. Its Tue only dubb I have and everything else in the room is fine. Is this the "dud" ?[URL="https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=55815&pictureid=1303110&thumb=1"]View Image[/URL]

I was asked if this was a DUD in PM ... I'm pretty sure its not...

A much better conformation with a whole plant shot... but that doesn't look DUD.... maybe over fed and too much Heat

 

[HUGE]

I was asked if this was a DUD in PM ... I'm pretty sure its not...

A much better conformation with a whole plant shot... but that doesn't look DUD.... maybe over fed and too much Heat

Over fed possibly. Heat no way. EC is never above 1.3, with PBP. Temp is solid 78. It is like 4' from the light because it is basically a runt. The Chloe and glue are like 6' tall while this sour dub with 9 weeks veg never made it past 3' even after the stretch. I'll post up a whole plant shot tonight and a pic of the rest of the plants right next to it . I will also take some pics of where the weird looking branches connec.

Chloe and glue right next to it. Same feed supply, about 1-2' closer to lights. And only 6 weeks bloom.

 

[Grizz]

Over fed possibly. Heat no way. EC is never above 1.3, with PBP. Temp is solid 78. It is like 4' from the light because it is basically a runt. The Chloe and glue are like 6' tall while this sour dub with 9 weeks veg never made it past 3' even after the stretch. I'll post up a whole plant shot tonight and a pic of the rest of the plants right next to it . I will also take some pics of where the weird looking branches connec.

Chloe and glue right next to it. Same feed supply, about 1-2' closer to lights. And only 6 weeks bloom.[URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=55815&pictureid=1303109&thumb=1]View Image[/url] [URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=55815&pictureid=1303108&thumb=1]View Image[/url]

any smell at all ? is it sticky to the touch ? side branches real brittle where they connect to the main stem ?

 

[HUGE]

Almost no smell, I can mollest the fuck out of it and my hands Dont get sticky. 2 branches "unplugged" from the main stem under their own weight by week 3 bloom.

 

[HUGE]

Most regular plants look like the branches "group out of" the main stem. On this dubb it looks like the branches "plug into" the main stem. Real weird.

 

[Grizz]

dud for sure, sour dub smells so good when not duded and is as sticky as the gg4, welcome to dudville

 

[whadeezlrg]

looks like a slightly frostier dudd than normal but looks like a dudd nonetheless..josey is right, by week 6 you shouldn't be able to get enough of her smell