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The REAL "Banana OG" from Original "OrgnKid" Genetics

Randy Lahey

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dj.scotfree

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Love the week by week cola shots brah or chick?! Lol... Noticed your location.. lmao.. Then I noticed your handle.. :) Good Ol' Randy.. No shit birds flocking here! Nice grow.. Triched out early but.. week 6-10 daaaaayyyyum! Got greasy & dense... following along! Peace~ DJSF
 
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Randy Lahey

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The REAL "Banana OG" from Original "OrgnKid" Genetics

Love the week by week cola shots brah! Lol... Noticed your location.. lmao.. Then I noticed your handle.. :) Good Ol' Randy.. No shit birds flocking here! Nice grow.. Triched out early but.. week 6-10 daaaaayyyyum! Got greasy & dense... following along! Peace~ DJSF


Thanks dj.scotfree!! :kissgrin: She's still alive and gonna go a couple weeks longer....:watchplant: so check back for sure!
 

Randy Lahey

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Flowering Time Of "Banana OG"???

Flowering Time Of "Banana OG"???

How long do you let it flower?

Good Question!! ♥♥ :biggrin:

Flowering Time for this Hybrid Variety of (cannabis sativa) 60% , (cannabis indica) 40% is projected for 10-12 Weeks as defined by the Original BREEDER, "OrgnKid" & Sagamartha Seeds Outsourcing the Genetic many years ago. But 10-12 Weeks Flowering, is only if your room is up to "Optimum Lumen Count" and "Refraction" Levels. Optimum range to shoot for sunlight replication results "INDOOR" is, 56,000-78,000 Lumens.

So given the parameters of the current; grow space, soil medium & Vol. , lumens & refraction;

6ft(ht.) x 6ft(w) x 3ft(D) , (2.8Liter [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Vol.) Organic Soil Mix; Spagh,Earth,Cannabis Leaves/Stems,Sand,Charcoal Ashes, River Rocks. Lighting/7CFL@3860Lumens Ea.=27020(Lum)/+20%Mylar Photon Refraction/=32424Lumens[/FONT]
. H2O\Regi.\2 Days Duration/@1.75Liters | 8Liter Flush=Tri-weekly

My Garden's Flowering Time variables adjust to 13-15 Weeks.

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blooper

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looks great. ever hear of banana 75? not sure where it came from but a local shop is carrying flower (20%+) and i was lucky enough to find a seed.
 

Randy Lahey

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im still crying over the loss of my Bannana og clone.

That's a bummer! :(

Hopefully I can get this genetic to stand up stronger:wallbash:!! As well as remain just as heavy or heavier in sugar production. This is my First run with the Gene. And was blessed enough to have 2 seeds germinate out of 3. On this run, I have both a Male and Female of the same Gene. So, the seeds being made are now ( "RL's" | (IBL1) BANANA OG ).

"Special Thanks to ( MrGoodBudz ) for the :booked:on (IBL's) , I can know for a FACT that is the proper cataloging of it's Gene listing." :tiphat:

I am still unsure what the strain was inbred to by "OrgnKid" ...?? So....in theory Whatever IB Gen. He ran the Series Line up to in 2001 +1 would be the technical (IBL) Stat. of this BANANA OG I am now working.


:respect: Any knowledge of that would be helpful Icmager's! :respect:
 

Infinitesimal

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That's a bummer! :(

Hopefully I can get this genetic to stand up stronger:wallbash:!! As well as remain just as heavy or heavier in sugar production. This is my First run with the Gene. And was blessed enough to have 2 seeds germinate out of 3. On this run, I have both a Male and Female of the same Gene. So, the seeds being made are now ( "RL's" | (IBL1) BANANA OG ).

"Special Thanks to ( MrGoodBudz ) for the :booked:on (IBL's) , I can know for a FACT that is the proper cataloging of it's Gene listing."

I am still unsure what the strain was inbred to by "OrgnKid" ...?? So....in theory Whatever IB Gen. He ran the Series Line up to in 2001 +1 would be the technical (IBL) Stat. of this BANANA OG I am now working.


:respect: Any knowledge of that would be helpful Icmager's! :respect:

IDK if english is your first language or not, but if I understand what you are saying, you are creating an IBL in one generation from 2 seeds?

If so wow, you must be very knowledgable on the subjects of genetics and plant science. How are you; quantifying traits and achieving homozygosity for all the various genes?

What do you mean by "proper cataloging" could you elaborate on "gene listing" and what it is? What are "RL's" and "IBL1" and what do you mean by "what the strain was inbred to" I don't understand what you mean... inbred to what, a specific character, genotype, phenotype or individual plant?

excuse my ignorance :tiphat:
 

iTarzan

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Is this from seed or the original clone? It might be due to cfl light but it doesn't look like the clone exactly. It doesn't matter to me because I would smoke that with you any time you offered it up.

You seem to enjoy this hobby. Keep on keeping on.
 

Randy Lahey

Active member
IDK if english is your first language or not, but if I understand what you are saying, you are creating an IBL in one generation from 2 seeds?

If so wow, you must be very knowledgable on the subjects of genetics and plant science. How are you; quantifying traits and achieving homozygosity for all the various genes?

What do you mean by "proper cataloging" could you elaborate on "gene listing" and what it is? What are "RL's" and "IBL1" and what do you mean by "what the strain was inbred to" I don't understand what you mean... inbred to what, a specific character, genotype, phenotype or individual plant?

excuse my ignorance :tiphat:


(RL's) = "Randy Lahey's"
(IBL1) = "Inbred Line 1"
(what the strain was inbred to?) = What "Inbred Series Line (NUMBER) "OrgnKid" bred the strain to in 2001" (IBL5)? (IBL7)??.

Yes. Technically the small seed batch I am making on all of the lower buds of the featured PLANT are (IBL1) Seeds. I had no time to make dozens of klones and compare performances and "quantify" so to speak. But, if you have 2 seeds of the same Gene and you breed those together without knowledge of it's current (IBL) "Inbred Lineage" , the work you do with the Seeds collected are Cataloged Back to an (IBL1) for "Listing Lineage". This is also why I said I was "blessed" to have a Male and a Female of the same variety. This beating the option, and reducing the chances of Hermaphroditic traits automatically by not preserving this Gene by "S1" variety.

As for, "achieving homozygosity for all the various genes?"

I don't really need to worry about this becuz there are no VARIOUS GENES?? Only one Stable Gene working with its'self for this Breeding run into this plant at least. This count is based on the Pollen used from a Male BANANA OG. with the same lineage to the Female.

There are other Gene Variety Females in the room with the Female BANANA OG. Those being "R.L.'s"; SouR - Mist, Sour Peach FUZZ & Landrace Malawi. All of which were "Controlled Pollenated" by the BANANA OG Male to lower branches only by eyeliner brush!:biggrin:
 

Infinitesimal

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(RL's) = "Randy Lahey's"
(IBL1) = "Inbred Line 1"
(what the strain was inbred to?) = What "Inbred Series Line (NUMBER) "OrgnKid" bred the strain to in 2001" (IBL5)? (IBL7)??.
as far as I can recall, he used an OG kush pollinated by Sagarmathas 60/40 making the Banana OG a simple F1 hybrid from unstable lines, Filial first generation and not inbred at all. So your seeds will be F2 Filial second generation as result of a pollen chuck.

an IBL, on the other hand, contains a high frequency of highly homozygous individuals that when in-crossed together produce more highly homozygous individuals homogeneously expressing the same traits as the previous generation.

Yes. Technically the small seed batch I am making on all of the lower buds of the featured PLANT are (IBL1) Seeds. I had no time to make dozens of klones and compare performances and "quantify" so to speak. But, if you have 2 seeds of the same Gene and you breed those together without knowledge of it's current (IBL) "Inbred Lineage" , the work you do with the Seeds collected are Cataloged Back to an (IBL1) for "Listing Lineage". This is also why I said I was "blessed" to have a Male and a Female of the same variety. This beating the option, and reducing the chances of Hermaphroditic traits automatically by not preserving this Gene by "S1" variety.

so making S1's increases hermaphroditism? if so how does it do this, if the traits for sexual expression are carried via X and Y chromosomes it means that the sex is determined by the genotype... meaning that unless you can effect the genotype there should be no change in the hermaphrodite rates from generation to generation... do colloidal silver, STS or any other form of ethylene suppression used to create feminized seed cause germline mutations that would effect an otherwise sexually stable genotype?

I don't know what growing and comparing dozens of clones would achieve, since they are identical clones? And I don't think that is how one goes about quantifying traits... it means that you know what gene/genes/loci in any given plant control the trait you are breeding for... but how else would you breed for your desired traits if you haven't first quantified the genes involved in the expression of those traits?

so your banana OG only contains one gene? :D Okay

As for, "achieving homozygosity for all the various genes?"

I don't really need to worry about this becuz there are no VARIOUS GENES?? Only one Stable Gene working with its'self for this Breeding run into this plant at least. This count is based on the Pollen used from a Male BANANA OG. with the same lineage to the Female.

uh, only one gene? do you mean genotype... the total sum of genes within an individual or population?

genes; are individual units of inheritance that comprise DNA, which is bound into things called chromosomes, found in the nuclei of cells... and gives instructions to the cell on what to be and how to function.... each chromosome contains many many genes... there is NOT just one gene. Life requires more than one gene. the two banana OG seeds you have is from a common genotype though still with two plants from a simple cross you will have two distinct genotypes. So either way... you are dealing with more than one gene

I had thought that, if you want the progeny (the seeds you make) to have and be stable for all the traits that you desire and want from the banana OG, having true breeding individuals that are homozygous for all the various genes responsible for the expression of banana OG traits would be very important?

what about deleterious recessive traits, do you think that the seeds you make from these plants are going to grow and flower just like your female banana OG... as do other IBLs?
 

Randy Lahey

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as far as I can recall, he used an OG kush pollinated by Sagarmathas 60/40 making the Banana OG a simple F1 hybrid from unstable lines, Filial first generation and not inbred at all. So your seeds will be F2 Filial second generation as result of a pollen chuck.

an IBL, on the other hand, contains a high frequency of highly homozygous individuals that when in-crossed together produce more highly homozygous individuals homogeneously expressing the same traits as the previous generation.



so making S1's increases hermaphroditism? if so how does it do this, if the traits for sexual expression are carried via X and Y chromosomes it means that the sex is determined by the genotype... meaning that unless you can effect the genotype there should be no change in the hermaphrodite rates from generation to generation... do colloidal silver, STS or any other form of ethylene suppression used to create feminized seed cause germline mutations that would effect an otherwise sexually stable genotype?

I don't know what growing and comparing dozens of clones would achieve, since they are identical clones? And I don't think that is how one goes about quantifying traits... it means that you know what gene/genes/loci in any given plant control the trait you are breeding for... but how else would you breed for your desired traits if you haven't first quantified the genes involved in the expression of those traits?

so your banana OG only contains one gene? :D Okay



uh, only one gene? do you mean genotype... the total sum of genes within an individual or population?

genes; are individual units of inheritance that comprise DNA, which is bound into things called chromosomes, found in the nuclei of cells... and gives instructions to the cell on what to be and how to function.... each chromosome contains many many genes... there is NOT just one gene. Life requires more than one gene. the two banana OG seeds you have is from a common genotype though still with two plants from a simple cross you will have two distinct genotypes. So either way... you are dealing with more than one gene

I had thought that, if you want the progeny (the seeds you make) to have and be stable for all the traits that you desire and want from the banana OG, having true breeding individuals that are homozygous for all the various genes responsible for the expression of banana OG traits would be very important?

what about deleterious recessive traits, do you think that the seeds you make from these plants are going to grow and flower just like your female banana OG... as do other IBLs?


Okay... First Off, Way to go being a dick by asking Rhetorical Questions and insulting everything I'm shooting for to learn from years of previous grows and watching for small details whilst in a bond with my plants to the soul, and the recent knowledge I've received from other fellow ICMager's.

Secondly!.... If you know so much on the topic, [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Infinitesimal[/FONT]. Why don't you just Enlighten us ALL without being a Rhetorical "dick"tater as I requested previously on the matter.
 

Randy Lahey

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so making S1's increases hermaphroditism? if so how does it do this, do colloidal silver, STS or any other form of ethylene suppression used to create feminized seed cause germline mutations that would effect an otherwise sexually stable genotype?

Yes. They do Sir.
 
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