Can't wait to start this up, getting closer. Just up potted some Black Widows that will be doing their thing on this show.
Glad to have ya.
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Hydrogrowled 126X Test grow
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Can't wait to start this up, getting closer. Just up potted some Black Widows that will be doing their thing on this show.
Glad to have ya.
Led's are leaping forward in tech so fast its hard to keep up. HGL for sure makes a beefy light, i'm dying to see how far in the canopy it penetrates.
Thanks watching.
The Harem to select from
The Harem to select from
As soon as these are sexed I will be picking even amounts of clones for each side.
Here are the Black Widow's from Mr. Nice.
And 10 King Louie XIII Og x BHT's (BHT=Bubba Ho Tep which is Decapitation x Insane Banana Kush)
The Harem to select from
As soon as these are sexed I will be picking even amounts of clones for each side.
Here are the Black Widow's from Mr. Nice.
And 10 King Louie XIII Og x BHT's (BHT=Bubba Ho Tep which is Decapitation x Insane Banana Kush)
I'm in complete SHOCK, PetFlora isn't in here.
LED's give that guy a boner.
Good luck on your test - LED's seem a great idea with all the heat you have.
I can't stop thinking about all those pineapples lol
Thanks for doing this - really curious to see and hear what you think and feel about LEDs vs HID.
LED's give that guy a boner.
Good luck on your test - LED's seem a great idea with all the heat you have.
I can't stop thinking about all those pineapples lol
Thanks for doing this - really curious to see and hear what you think and feel about LEDs vs HID.
I've been sold on led's since my last grow on here with them. It wasn't the best unit but I saw the potential. I'm going to buy a big model of either HydroGrowLed's new units or Advanced Led's new XTE 5 watt light that's not released yet. After this grow we shall see what I purchase. I'm leaning towards Advanced's but if I get a killer deal through HGL than that will swing my vote.
It would be interesting to see a side-by-side with a TopLED Mars II. I'm of the opinion the rebranded Chinese imports (which sell for a fortune) aren't much different than direct imports. Just glitzier web pages and lots of "proprietary blend" nonsense?
I bet Sara (TopLED rep on the support forum at 420mag) would give you a light to compare.
No thanks, read the thread over there. It's not a quality light. Lots of complaints of units not working.
Phychotron
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They aren't much different in design at all, but those cheap imports aren't concerned with top bin LED's or quality of other components. They just need to sell it to you and do not need to worry much about their 'return to china' policy like a local importer/distributor is. They don't just sell you the same grow lights that are out on ebay, they actually care for the product and work with the manufacturer to ensure that the parts quality meets a minimum standard and won't be common to break within the warranty period.
If there is a problem they address it. Advanced LED used to use e-shine for the Diamond Series at first but had to drop them after their lights kept breaking. I have a few early DS100's from them, they were given to me because they were broken, opened them up and it was the wire was cut so damn short that it BARELY reached the power supply. Not only did they not leave any extra wire, they soldered them in instead of using the quick disconnects, presumably to save a dollar over a few hundred units.
I'm still waiting for that super generic ultra led grow light, but it has yet to come to market, or at least there are no grow logs for one.
Not saying you can't land a good generic, but its a sketchy market that says they're selling you a Ferrari but its the super low end Chinese version with a Hundai motor in it. And until you actually drive a real Ferrari you might be completely content with body and frame they sold you.
I've actually got a pile of some of those generics that I just cant bring myself to throw away outright. Blackstar LED replacement boards cost $75. Three out of four have broken at about the two year mark (and a few others returned). That makes them much much more expensive than the name brands that actually markets a product they expect to work. That's $40 per year to keep those 120watt Blackstar fixtures going past two years, with the first two years costing $140 each (~280 for the fixture).
If there is a problem they address it. Advanced LED used to use e-shine for the Diamond Series at first but had to drop them after their lights kept breaking. I have a few early DS100's from them, they were given to me because they were broken, opened them up and it was the wire was cut so damn short that it BARELY reached the power supply. Not only did they not leave any extra wire, they soldered them in instead of using the quick disconnects, presumably to save a dollar over a few hundred units.
I'm still waiting for that super generic ultra led grow light, but it has yet to come to market, or at least there are no grow logs for one.
Not saying you can't land a good generic, but its a sketchy market that says they're selling you a Ferrari but its the super low end Chinese version with a Hundai motor in it. And until you actually drive a real Ferrari you might be completely content with body and frame they sold you.
I've actually got a pile of some of those generics that I just cant bring myself to throw away outright. Blackstar LED replacement boards cost $75. Three out of four have broken at about the two year mark (and a few others returned). That makes them much much more expensive than the name brands that actually markets a product they expect to work. That's $40 per year to keep those 120watt Blackstar fixtures going past two years, with the first two years costing $140 each (~280 for the fixture).
CREE leds are where its at. They've got the highest light output per watt on the market. That XML 350 unit from Advanced is a beast from the research I've done. I hope some day that an led manufacturer would just make a light that has only the 5 and 10 watt CREE leds. Maybe Area 51 will do something like that when they announce a new light in the future.
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Phychotron
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I think it has something to do with the colors by manufacturer, no one company has a broad enough color range to mimic par lighting, or so the theory seems to go. All whites seem like they're stepping up to the plate, but still not sure they've got all that it takes to stand alone at the moment. They seem good for the filler and maybe even blue, but you still want a bit more pure red to get that par curve. At least that's the impression I get.
I bet if you used linear defraction (prism) and separated all the components of the white light you'd see that they are probably not a full rainbow of colors, but rather select bands that, when seen to the human eye, combine to the color white, giving the illusion of a "white/all color" light.
I bet if you used linear defraction (prism) and separated all the components of the white light you'd see that they are probably not a full rainbow of colors, but rather select bands that, when seen to the human eye, combine to the color white, giving the illusion of a "white/all color" light.
I definitely agree about Advanced LED. They're in a different league using CREE bulbs, lifetime warranty, etc. More like Area 51, Onyx, Apache, IMO.
Does HydroGrowLED use CREE and have a lifetime warranty? If not, that's why I was thinking TopLED might be an informative side-by-side too.
TopLED is not comparable to HGL, appreciate the info.
4 days till the Led's are running
4 days till the Led's are running
The harem is getting ready to take cuts from.
4 days till the Led's are running
The harem is getting ready to take cuts from.
sammyz2646
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And some damn fine looking younglings. I must say. In that shape and condition------Your growing abilities have impressed me my friend, well done
they almost look like they came from seeds. . . .
they almost look like they came from seeds. . . .
Mahalo sammyz
They did come from seeds. I made the 9 King Louie x's and 3 on the right are Mr. Nice Black Widows.
They did come from seeds. I made the 9 King Louie x's and 3 on the right are Mr. Nice Black Widows.
My move got pushed back a couple days, so i'm only a couple days off from getting the tent up. My grow room is full of boxes. Gotta finish unpacking, an free up the room for the tent tomorrow. Almost there folks.
Got the veg led light up for now while i unpack. Here's a pic of the harem basking in the blue.
Its 84 with the veg light 3 feet away @ full power. 81 if only half the light is on. This room has no ac an i cant run my portable ac since i can't run the exhaust duct out the window.
Pullin out the HGL to see the difference in heat today.
Pullin out the HGL to see the difference in heat today.
One of the ideas behind LED's is the long term savings. It would be nice to see a side by side of a four year operating LED and a new one of the same make and model. The reason I posted this comment here is because of the talks I have had with other HGL users and how there is a common belief of the quick depreciation of performance.
