Wholesale pot prices plummet. Now there starting to get better

[Disanddat]

. and I will just smile knowing I did it before the corporations took over and whored the plant out.[/QUOTE]

Bobble head, u got it right. It's sad the corporate greed and political corruption that made the plant illegal are now poised to completely take it over. All those chemicals perfected for tobacco use will find their way into corporate cannabis. The marketing techniques perfected over decades for canna will be used to further degrade. Money will continue to funnel upward in this industry and anyone running less than multimillion dollar grows will be forced out. Keep it real. Keep it private. I've been in this since cultivation was a crime with serious time, but I will be cultivating as long as I'm physically able for myself and for those in the know. On a side note I have a couple of prominent tattoos of the leaf which I'm going to be getting covered. At one point they represented a cause and a fight against corrupt power....now it might as well be a Pepsi logo.

Peace

 

[komboloi]

I've been growing off and on for almost 40 years now, and the point the whole time has been to be self-sufficient so I wouldn't have to buy weed. It doesn't matter to me personally whom I'm not having to buy from. I didn't want to buy from dealers, and I'm not going to want to buy from corporate growers. So nothing much changes for me. I'll just keep growing my own and producing my own seed. Both the shady over-priced dealers and the shady over-priced corporations can go fuck themselves.

 

[m4n]

Seen some nice light dep ogs and purps that could pass as indoor for 16

 

[z-ro]

No offense m4n but you number are always waayyyy off. I've seen last years shitty outs going for 16, no way in hell is anyone local to me dropping fresh og dep at 16 when they can easily get 22.

 

[whadeezlrg]

I've seen some nice greenhouse og from mendo that was @ 17...last season properly stored...just as good as some fresh.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

i see a mix of m4n and zero….saw some sours and OGs that i didn't even think looked that good, dude wanted 22 in san francisco. i was like hell no 18 max. same dude was selling old stale OD for 12-13 that smelled terrible improperly stored. decent outs for 15.

but then the homie on the mountain was doing really nice blue dream dep for 13-14. another homie on the same mountain wants 15-16 for all his dep but not OG some other random strains…

guess its still pretty varied.

 

[TerpeneTom]

To confirm, when I tell my friends of the extra cost for quality, which is often justified - and they can afford it, they always opt for the cheaper.

The majority of individuals purchasing the 15-20$ grams are growers. There are so many growers now that it is a valid market to target. This is why I will not be using the silly names that people assign to these crosses and just stating the parents, for example: GG#4 X The White. Growers should understand the cost increase because of yield, maturity, rarity, etc...

I have not seen any jars at the dispensary which had a humidistat in it to display that the product is at optimal humidity - because it often isn't - and this will be desired as individuals become more educated (more people start growing and realize the work and justify the extra dollar).

Also, marketing the dominant colas - class A buds some say. I don't see any large colas at the local dispensaries, appears everyone reserves them for personal. The majority have never been exposed to these and are in awe when they witness first hand, they don't even know they can get that large...

A neighbor who is a medicinal patient pays $280 for an O, and $320 for the tops...there is a market for certain.

Also, I'm thinking to distinguish your product - if it is A grade (fuck all this A+++++++++++ shit, A is the top and only 2-3 of 30 individuals achieved it in class, no A+ in school) - you should place the product in a black container and literally position it on the top shelf, people will be so intrigued and when they open it and the aroma hits - granted you have grown, dried, and cured appropriately - they will not be able to say no...

Recreational is soon approaching most states... In the recent years the majority of my friends request sativa and are willing to pay the premium when it is presented

 

[Hillside Growin]

- you should place the product in a black container and literally position it on the top shelf, people will be so intrigued and when they open it and the aroma hits - granted you have grown, dried, and cured appropriately - they will not be able to say no...

this works everytime

3k all day animal cookies and white fire

 

[Backyard Farmer]

I'm happy my dep is all animal cookies with tickets like that!

 

[stasis]

Ya Hear a lot of very real spot-on shit in Michigan, as well as a lot of Real Funny Shit.

Some real connoisseurs certainly, and also a lot of Hare-Brained ideas.

Hella People trying to re-invent the wheel, Dudes.

Very Earthy and authentic Folks though - Lovin' that part. My Home State.

Top-Top Shelf Ins -- 66 day Diesel sativa Hybrid - 40% amber - rock hard buds: 28-32

outs: as if - I'll give it a shot next year.

 

[TerpeneTom]

Saw you were the most recent comment Stasis and knew an accurate analysis would be delivered.

Always informative for a young individual such as myself.

Love how quick individuals online will claim you are wrong, I am too often surrounded by friends that talk behind your back and offer no advice

 

[prune]

Also, marketing the dominant colas - class A buds some say. I don't see any large colas at the local dispensaries, appears everyone reserves them for personal. The majority have never been exposed to these and are in awe when they witness first hand, they don't even know they can get that large...

Some cut up their few large buds, so as they don't make the rest of the bag look bad, (i shit you not)...

 

[Sleeper7784]

Are there any dispensaries in nor cal/bay area that are preferred over others? Anyone specific that keeps it proper and competitive? My in's are finishing out fire and I think I'm ready to go on the books.

 

[grow nerd]

Some cut up their few large buds, so as they don't make the rest of the bag look bad, (i shit you not)...

I actually thought it was the other way around.

I thought it was done because most prefer the individual buds to be separated and not a cola with a giant pencil diameter stem running down the middle. I mean, if you don't mind paying for the extra stems, I'd be more than happy to leave as much as possible. Less work trimming up the "back sides", too.

I know my buyers would look at me like I'm a noob and ask me WTF is up with the colas, if I tried that shit.

 

[Sleeper7784]

Hella true.

 

[whadeezlrg]

if they're densely connected, I aint breakin em down...i don't care if it's an oz spear, but then again i don't bow down to brokers...i like to act like the ball is in my court whether it is or isn't...my prices haven't fallen nearly as much as a lot of folks because i really try to hold my ground, no favors in business.

 

[grow nerd]

if they're densely connected, I aint breakin em down...i don't care if it's an oz spear, but then again i don't bow down to brokers...i like to act like the ball is in my court whether it is or isn't...my prices haven't fallen nearly as much as a lot of folks because i really try to hold my ground, no favors in business.

For a quick second stop thinking of your pride as a grower and knowing / thinking that the intact colas are "providing proof/sign of top buds and quality" and think as a consumer on how you would feel about the two different types of packaging presented to you, when purchasing 1 ounce of marijuana. Which do you prefer?

• 1 ounce of nuggets, likely taken from "top colas" (if growing indoor [for dispensary outlets], you should be keeping an even, flat / even canopy and going for equally well ripened nugs throughout, not "outdoor style" or under-pruned / mismanaged plants with underdeveloped buds all over, anyways)
• 1 ounce spear, with a 4g stem, 24g nuggets.

Every once in a while you'll get a "whoa, cool, a whole top cola" but more likely than not you'll end up with a bunch of pissed off consumers.

I remember a while back when I used to send stuff out east, some would request "colas" for bag appeal reasons. WTF? Different world...

 

[oceangrownkush]

@grownerd - I challenge you to find a 4g stem in any even sloppily trimmed indoor. I have personally weighed out stem after stem and haven't been able to get much weight on the scale. Stems don't weigh shit and I weigh out all my consumers heavier than the competition so I really get agitated when people bitch about a fucking stem.

 

[grow nerd]

I assumed about that much, I could be wrong. What, 2-3g then? I haven't weighed, but it's hard to believe that a stem connecting nearly an ounce of nuggets would weigh too much less. I'm not sure that trim quality, sloppy or not, would make any difference as we are weighing the stem, not bud/leaf.

Why don't you just remove the stem so you don't hear bitching about stems, and give a standard weight instead of compensating higher for it?

Let's say 2.8g of stem from 28g cola. 10%. Meaning your units would need to be ~500g to compensate. Is that so, or are we talking ~460g?

 

[Backyard Farmer]

This thread has taken a turn for the worst.

Last years outs, 13

Black out , 2