Sweet leaf vs mk vs bhogart

[Chonkski]

Disclaimer: I have read hundreds, maybe even throusands of pages on this forum, I am just not an average poster. I am familiar with most of the oil heads here and know your guyses technique and preference.

That being said, I still want to start this thread to throw around some ideas of what is the best upgrade to go with considering personal preference..

I have been running the mkIII for a while now, and I bought it just to get some hands on XP on a closed loop.

Now that I'm ready to upgrade so I can run commercial mass. Personally I like the sweet leaf v.2 for the inline dewaxing, what I don't like, is that you can't do multiple runthroughs/showers nor can you flood it..

I have been thinking of just ordering larger columns from glaciertanks and just making a large mkiii. How does that work out for those of you who did this, opposed to just buying a whole new system?

Sorry if I made you mad for starting a thread about info that had already been cover, I just want to get some specific answers from you guys.. Hope that's okay!

 

[icdog]

i would recommend a mkiv. The flexibility is awesome. You can only upgrade the mk3 so much before the smaller pot makes recovery take forever.
I ran the mk3 for awhile and the mkiv is so much better.

Personally I don't have any experience with the sweat leaf or the bhogart, just my 2 cents.

 

[Chonkski]

Yeah that's what I think I'm going to do, thanks for the reply man.

One think I have been thinking about is adding my own dewaxing unit to it.. I've been dewaxing by leaving my collection vessel full of tane on dry ice for 90 min and then sending the solution through a Buchner, and doing the recovery as usual. Although is way too much of a hassle/danger. So id like to design a dewaxing unit that you would essentially be able to flip and connect to the collection vessel after trading lids, and adding a reducer to a strong filter, and then into a larger collection vessel under vacumm.

Thoughts ?

 

[NotACop]

Yeah that's what I think I'm going to do, thanks for the reply man.

One think I have been thinking about is adding my own dewaxing unit to it.. I've been dewaxing by leaving my collection vessel full of tane on dry ice for 90 min and then sending the solution through a Buchner, and doing the recovery as usual. Although is way too much of a hassle/danger. So id like to design a dewaxing unit that you would essentially be able to flip and connect to the collection vessel after trading lids, and adding a reducer to a strong filter, and then into a larger collection vessel under vacumm.

Thoughts ?

If you can get your butane to -70 with dry ice and denatured alchy, you wont need an inline dewaxer...

 

[Chonkski]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, sounds worth trying

 

[HighStateToke]

Yeah that's what I think I'm going to do, thanks for the reply man.

One think I have been thinking about is adding my own dewaxing unit to it.. I've been dewaxing by leaving my collection vessel full of tane on dry ice for 90 min and then sending the solution through a Buchner, and doing the recovery as usual. Although is way too much of a hassle/danger. So id like to design a dewaxing unit that you would essentially be able to flip and connect to the collection vessel after trading lids, and adding a reducer to a strong filter, and then into a larger collection vessel under vacumm.

Thoughts ?

How are you removing atmosphere from your machine after putting the dewaxed solution back in for the final recovery?

 

[Chonkski]

Well when I say trading lids, I mean without letting atmosphere in. It's still just a small sprout of an idea, but i don't see why it couldn't work with incorporating a clever shopping list from GT/Paramount..

Or is there a more simplistic way to upgrade?

Either way I'm going to need an upgrade for commercial mass within the next week or so.. My head has been turning.

I guess that's why I'm posting here in IC, instead of just reading like usual

 

[Gray Wolf]

Well when I say trading lids, I mean without letting atmosphere in. It's still just a small sprout of an idea, but i don't see why it couldn't work with incorporating a clever shopping list from GT/Paramount..

Or is there a more simplistic way to upgrade?

Either way I'm going to need an upgrade for commercial mass within the next week or so.. My head has been turning.

I guess that's why I'm posting here in IC, instead of just reading like usual

As noted, it is easiest to extract at low enough temperatures to not pick up the leaf waxes in the first place, but if you are interested in closed look inline dewaxing, check out my Mk VII post. Even if you use a different cooling method, you can still use the same inline closed loop filtration setup.

 

[Chonkski]

As noted, it is easiest to extract at low enough temperatures to not pick up the leaf waxes in the first place, but if you are interested in closed look inline dewaxing, check out my Mk VII post. Even if you use a different cooling method, you can still use the same inline closed loop filtration setup.

Yeah I'm very interested in the mkVII, I have to hand it to you GW. You have a one of a kind mind!

I'm very interested but with such short notice of the need to upgrade, I'm just the operator.. So I am being sent up to the pharm for a class on the mkiV.. I already understand it pretty well but it will be nice being able to ask questions.. I will most likely be walking away with the unit, but I am interested in dewaxed product with ease!

 

[MEMED]

please respect, and value anytime, and lessons GW blesses on you. Its awesome hes local to you. Appreciate it. His word is gold. Scrap the idea of "inline dewaxing" and just concentrate on executing a chilled injection temp, and keep a cooler packed w/ d/I for your columns. Thats it.


on a side note; has anyone else done any 134a extractions? I modded a terp to run it and am thinking of starting to run a 134a/R227/R600 blend. The florasol ive openblasted comes out looking like the co2 extracts ive seen, tasting, and smelling bomb! Im stoked to get a 30lber and test it out... anyone else?

 

[Chonkski]

please respect, and value anytime, and lessons GW blesses on you. Its awesome hes local to you. Appreciate it. His word is gold. Scrap the idea of "inline dewaxing" and just concentrate on executing a chilled injection temp, and keep a cooler packed w/ d/I for your columns. Thats it.


on a side note; has anyone else done any 134a extractions? I modded a terp to run it and am thinking of starting to run a 134a/R227/R600 blend. The florasol ive openblasted comes out looking like the co2 extracts ive seen, tasting, and smelling bomb! Im stoked to get a 30lber and test it out... anyone else?

Trust me, I appreciate ever having the chance to trade with someone I have idolized for the past two years!

Will the buna screens hold up? Along with the yellow jacket SS braided hoses?

 

[SkyHighLer]

please respect, and value anytime, and lessons GW blesses on you. Its awesome hes local to you. Appreciate it. His word is gold. Scrap the idea of "inline dewaxing" and just concentrate on executing a chilled injection temp, and keep a cooler packed w/ d/I for your columns. Thats it.


on a side note; has anyone else done any 134a extractions? I modded a terp to run it and am thinking of starting to run a 134a/R227/R600 blend. The florasol ive openblasted comes out looking like the co2 extracts ive seen, tasting, and smelling bomb! Im stoked to get a 30lber and test it out... anyone else?

How did you 'openblast' with R134a "Florasol," it wouldn't extract anything for me doing a Mason jar soak. Zip, nada, nothing!

 

[MEMED]

can tapped it cold

 

[MEMED]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuPont-Suva-R134a-CAN134A-3-Automobile-Refrigerant-Freon-Quantity-Of-3-Cans-/400486369757?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d3ed909dd&vxp=mtr U use this sky?

 

[MEMED]

Theres a rather large post on F@#K combustion. Plus butt loads of info using google..

 

[SkyHighLer]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuPont-Suva-R134a-CAN134A-3-Automobile-Refrigerant-Freon-Quantity-Of-3-Cans-/400486369757?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d3ed909dd&vxp=mtr U use this sky?

Yes, the Dupont Suva R134a, I still have the rest of the case. I used a dirt cheap R134a charging hose to a fitting on the Mason jar lid.

Theres a rather large post on F@#K combustion. Plus butt loads of info using google..

A co-solvent was used, and it was done in a high pressure closed loop system with many washes.

My experience with it,

http://www.tokecity.com/forums/show...-Preferrence&p=1332947&viewfull=1#post1332947

http://www.tokecity.com/forums/show...-Preferrence&p=1332996&viewfull=1#post1332996

Please forgive my links to another forum...

 

[MEMED]

odd, I also made a rose, and lilac florsol @ the same time. Im thinking its cus i kept everything cold, used stainless maybe? I dunno? Very little of each extract. The least bit was from lilac, then canna, then rose. There was alotta rose. I didnt blaze the canna oil. It was ingested by a willing participant. It was a very crude, undocumented run. Wish I had more useful input sky. I will when I get my 30lber. phytosol b has 'tane in it i think....

 

[MEMED]

oh yeah I remember those posts...

 

[SkyHighLer]

odd, I also made a rose, and lilac florsol @ the same time. Im thinking its cus i kept everything cold, used stainless maybe? I dunno? Very little of each extract. The least bit was from lilac, then canna, then rose. There was alotta rose. I didnt blaze the canna oil. It was ingested by a willing participant. It was a very crude, undocumented run. Wish I had more useful input sky. I will when I get my 30lber. phytosol b has 'tane in it i think....

If you're still insisting you successfully open extracted with only R134a, I call BS.

Dr Z from Pure ZHO called me out publicly for postulating their product was R134a based, so I attempted an extraction, found it to be a complete fail, and apologized. I used ground mid shelf MMJ dispensary nuggs, so there was plenty of oil to be easily extracted. I would have extracted ~15% plus using butane with the same herb.

Nasty stuff if not completely purged,

"Contact of 1,1,1,2-tetrafluoroethane with flames or hot surfaces in excess of 250 °C (482 °F) may cause vapor decomposition and the emission of toxic gases including hydrogen fluoride and carbonyl halides.[20]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,1,1,2-Tetrafluoroethane

 

[MEMED]

ok well since I dont have pix I understand the law. So, im obliviously a bullshit artist sky? Thx for calling me out buddy! Its interesting to me the way your reacting. I know "pix, or it didnt happen", but sheesh, cant other people have different experiences then you? Variables? Like I said, everything was chilly. When I get more Ill doit again.