MidwestKush
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Is it easy to meet people out in the Golden State? Planning on making a trip out there in May-June
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Wholesale pot prices plummet. Now there starting to get better
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no offense, but probly not with 3 posts. i'm sure your a nice guy and all, but personally, i'd have to have interacted with you for sometime before i'd be willing to meet up.
Now if you could find something better then OG that yielded like bd, you'd probably run it, no matter the posture. Money talks, doesn't it bf?
I just work on 13th street ...
MidwestKush
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lol thanks, i'll have to work on making some posts. just super busy. don't have a ton of time to spend on the internet!
Anyone have an overall breakdown on the budget for indoor CA growing?
Let me give a wild hypothetical, in hopes someone could correct my estimates with greater accuracy.
Say 1.5 per light. At 40 cents per kwh over 60 days that's $288. Be generous and double that when counting veg lighting, ballast losses, fans, AC, etc.. So about $600 electric per light, or $400 per pound.
Add $200 per pound for supplies, equipment, nutes on top of that for a total of $600 per pound.
Add $400 per pound for space. If you're running 10kw that would be a $3000 a month house. (15lbs every 2 months would be $6,000 for 2 months)
So $1000 a pound in costs, sold for $2500. Which leaves $1500 a pound in this hypothetical profit, which at 15 pounds every 2 months would be 11k per month.
Clearly I'm missing something in the expenses? Could anyone help me out?
pretty close cept for that 60 day flower time...and your a/c cost estimate is probly low too.
ThePieEyedPiper
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I could run a year round greenhouse and drop my prices to $100/ounce and still make a killing! lol everyone thinks they know dank or top notch, hahahaa still laughing when a friend in colorado cant find anything comparable in quality than what we have. Yah, top notch at $100 its going to be. That'll weed out you mediocre growers for sure. To each his own, you'll see.... and that big smile on my face is because of your failures and my advances.
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You didn't include the actual cost to setup the room which averages 2k per light in a sealed room, or move in costs, labor, trimming, harvest supplies, dump runs, water, gasoline, replacement bulbs, dehumidifies, wiring/electrician, co2, plus the fact you won't ever turn out 1.5 per with no veg under the main lights so runs take a bare minimum of 70 days, I'm sure there is more I'm forgetting. Plus your pge is way off more like 3000 per month for the whole house with grow and ac going. A safe guess is more in the 1800 range per unit costs when it's all said and done, combine that with your average price of 2k per unit and you see why indoor growing is dead on a 10 light scale. Need 100 minimum to make it in today's world.
Primalraindrop
Member
as cost effectiveness goes... greenhouse lightdep is the way to go man!
sssshhh..! haha.. The only secret worth knowing. I never say those 2 words at the hydro shop I manage.
I just invested a lot in to the green house light dep. there is nothing cost effective about it so far... Black out has been a black hole of money. If I hate it at least I can grow more tropical fruit
Primalraindrop
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@ Backyard Farmer. I was more thinking about the guys running a ton of indoor lights.
The amount of hours you run lights in your greenhouse is far less. I guess i was talking more about operating costs. startup in anything in this industry is gonna cost you 100k it feels haha.
The amount of hours you run lights in your greenhouse is far less. I guess i was talking more about operating costs. startup in anything in this industry is gonna cost you 100k it feels haha.
You guys are way off I'm in Cali running 2k And 2 600s
I figured my cost from My last crop was about 90 cents a gram.let's say a buck a gram roughly 500 a pound.I get 2500 for my #s allday.I don't factor rent since I have to live somewhere right. Plus my rent is super cheap
I figured my cost from My last crop was about 90 cents a gram.let's say a buck a gram roughly 500 a pound.I get 2500 for my #s allday.I don't factor rent since I have to live somewhere right. Plus my rent is super cheap
600w veg is really expensive. Veg can kill the electric bill being on +18 hours a day. 1200w flowering should be able to be supplied with a lot less watts, unless your plant count is really low.
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CaliGabe
The last room I designed and built, in Cali, was 8 600's for 4800 watts in flower and a 1000 watt mother/veg room. It was an open system with a crapload of intake/exhaust fans and no AC. First bill the house got was under $383 when everything was up and running. That was about 5 years ago and haven't checked in to see what the bills are running now. I just scratched my head the bills for a very small 3 bedroom house with electric appliances, except hot water, and 4800 watts of flower was coming in so low. Electronic ballasts, short run to the drop to the house yet still. Like the Twilight Zone or something.
We will see how it goes. The cost to make it auto black box is less than paying a worker so I went that route. Also putting lights , corrugated steel end walls , light traps , fully ventilated HAF fans etc. hoping it runs like indoor but better.
Hydronic beds or tables for winter use is the goal.
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CaliGabe
Seems like the capital investment to make automated will pay for itself very quickly then over time you'll get a good return for those dollars spent.
For hydronics you can buy 4' x 8' pool collectors from companies like SunEarth for $300 then build your own enclosures cheap. Drainback systems are the best way to go IMO.
