Salt buildup with blumats??

[TribalSeeds]

Shit, i dont even measure anymore...

1/2 capfull to 27 gallon res, I know im close to 1 ml per gallon...

Drip Clean IS the shit, buy your base nutrients, ph up and down, some calmag, drip clean and your ready to get down....

The best part is you dont even have to dilute it. Just drop it in your res and youre done. I poured the 15ml it takes in my res into the cap, now I just use the cap as my guide. I dont even have to wipe the measuring cup.

 

[FlowerFarmer]

For the sake of the op's original question...

I've ran blumats many of times running strictly FloraMicro & FloraBloom (Head Recipe). Nothing else. I've have never had any issues with the 3mm tubing clogging nor have I noticed any white buildup on the tubing.

 

[TribalSeeds]

To be honest, I never actually saw any salt build up on my 3mm before I added drip clean.

 

[moodster]

i get no saltbuildup with drip clean ive been using it 9 months no problem

 

[joe fresh]

To be honest, I never actually saw any salt build up on my 3mm before I added drip clean.

the placebo effect...


alot of ppl will never get any salt buildup, then they use a product that claims to get rid of it and boom, they see no salt build up and think its the product..lol

the product does work, but is def not nessecary, i dont use it, ive learned to lower my ppms

 

[TribalSeeds]

the placebo effect...


alot of ppl will never get any salt buildup, then they use a product that claims to get rid of it and boom, they see no salt build up and think its the product..lol

the product does work, but is def not nessecary, i dont use it, ive learned to lower my ppms

I wouldnt call it placebo effect. I picked up Drip Clean as a prophylactic. This is my first blumat run. I vegged for 2 months and had every problem under the sun, so I decided I better grab some drip clean because most of the dudes running blumats say to use it. Then again I didnt listen to those guys and overfed my plants anyway.

 

[joe fresh]

no your right not quite a placebo effect, because it does work, but what i ment to say is you dont NEED it if you run a good quality nute and lower ppms

 

[Inigo Montoya]

So PeKacid is just Drip Clean but 2.5 times as concentrated and in a crystalline form? What is the recommended weight to add to a gallon of water (to equal the 1mL per gallon (3.785L) ratio everyone uses) and/or what ratio of PeKacid to RO water will yield home-made Drip Clean (to then instead add at 1mL per gallon)?

 

[joe fresh]

400 grams per liter of water makes the same drip clean formula, so if you wanted say 1 gal, just do this:

400g x 3,75L = 1514 grams


so 1514 grams per gallon of water....



you now hae your own gallon of "home made" drip clean....mix at same strength you would do with drip clean

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Awesome thanks for the reply; is that number based on personal ppm/ec readings that you have done when mixing or something else? Just curious, also where did you buy your PeKacid from when you did use it/what is a good source for PeKacid?

 

[joe fresh]

i dont use pekacid, nor do i use drip clean, i fertilize less(max 850 ppm every 3rd or 4th irrigation, and thats in peak flower)...so i get no salt build up.

but just by doing some reading and investigating, you will see that it is the same stuff...

kinda like ibuprofen, its sold under many diff names and diff dosage strength, but in the end its all the same stuff, just diff prices and brands and concentrations...

 

[vein5]

I was under the impression that you should get a good root structure before adding blumats. I was going to add the blumats in flower. so if I add drip clean I should flush the plants to avoid any lockout?

 

[Vic Hammer]

Fucking Drip Clean. Why overfeed and then use an extra product to help remove the excess. Its like overeating and then using a product to help get rid of the fat. It is a backwards approach.

Control EC of nute solution and control your environment to reduce evaporation of the media. If the media is drying rapidly due to evaporation caused by hot or dry environment salts will accumulate. And of course so will overfeeding.

 

[whadeezlrg]

I use drip clean in my mix that rarely goes over 500ppm, your herb will taste better low feeding or not...speaking from personal experience. I've said it before and I will say it again drip clean is probably the #1 additive that you can use for flavor mainly because it gives you a clean taste of the genetic offerings with out being clouded by sweeteners....you truly taste what that specific plant has to offer. is it overpriced? probably but so is gasoline and bottled water...

 

[TokeRippa]

Would it be safe to assume that if you are running dtw and feeding on the low side that it isnt probably necessary to use drip clean with blumats?

 

[rives]

i dont use pekacid, nor do i use drip clean, i fertilize less(max 850 ppm every 3rd or 4th irrigation, and thats in peak flower)...so i get no salt build up.

Joe, how do you do this if you are running blumats or was this prior to you using them? Also, when you reference ppm, what scale are you using?

 

[joe fresh]

Joe, how do you do this if you are running blumats or was this prior to you using them? Also, when you reference ppm, what scale are you using?

lol well i havnt run the blumats yet...since moving ot the new place and all the othe stuff going on i havent had the time to set them up and the grow is so small now it takes no time to water, lol...but i do plan to set them up in the future

 

[FlowerFarmer]

Would it be safe to assume that if you are running dtw and feeding on the low side that it isnt probably necessary to use drip clean with blumats?

Yes

drip clean was never a "necessary", but rather cheap insurance to ensure you don't develop a salt accumulation.

Many Blumat users are talking about it/promoting it as it is good addition since those using blumats do not have any run-off. The blumats maintain a constant moisture level in the pot.


I personally have never really had any issues with clogging in blumats nor have I really experienced what I would consider salt accumulation when using blumats with no drip clean and a simple base mix... such as Hesi Coco or FloraMicro/FloraBloom. I've bought some drip clean to try, but stopped because of problems.. not sure if it was related to the dirp clean or not as several other factors were involved. (low o2 when using plastic pots and the re-use of un-flushed from a previous unfinished down grow)

 

[Caravaggio]

For you guys using Drip Clean regularly, are you feeding every single time or do you feed feed flush?

Ive been running Drip Clean and feeding every single time, no lockouts or anything yet. Seems to be working fine.

I max feed 400ppm in Veg and 900 in flower

 

[whadeezlrg]

I always use it unless I'm flushing, and sometime's I'll do a fresh water friday