How did Skunk the strain get its name?

[MAHA KALA]

It would be easy for a breeder to cross chem with an afghan/NL type plant and attempt to trick a person who hasn't had nor seen a "rks" to believe they might be able to achieve such smells out of that seedline... (do you follow what I'm getting at?)

it was done by Bodhi check his chme91 x G13hashplant.. except he didnt trick anybody lol i think its possible to find something similar to rks in those beans..

So... what was in the jar? Thanks Chimera!

im not Chimera but i think it was so called BC roadkill cut, same cut that was used in cannacopia cross..

they just stunk to high heaven just like an anise tinted dead skunk.
-SamS

i heard about this anise aspect of roadkill skunk from guys who grew cannacopia´s strain, they said there has to be durban in it lol

to me it looks like roadkill skunk beans are out there, crossed with tom hill´s ghani.. make F2, find a winner.. so easy..

 

[Tropical Rain]

That g13 hashplant has interested me. Not because of any skunk smells.
I had on order a pack of Black Triangle from bodhi vis tsd.
I doubt I will be seeing that now LOL!


TR

 

[Tropical Rain]

I will make one more post on the subject of RKS, Tropical Rain you say:
"Sam it almost seems as if you think those who ask about roadkillskunk are really asking for the skunk strain (skunk#1) and aren't actually just referring to a smell that many a plants may have."
Well you are right other strains I have seen have smelled skunky, that said I sold huge numbers of Skunk #1 RKS seeds when I was the only Cannabis seed company in the world. I used to visit some of these folks way out in the countryside and I could smell the skunky smell half a mile away down wind, no difference if grown outdoors or if indoors under lights, they just stunk to high heaven just like an anise tinted dead skunk. Everyone and I mean everyone used to complain about the really strong skunk smell, they were trying to grow undercover and the crop gave itself away. Don't get me wrong people loved the herb but needed to be extra careful to avoid detection. When I sold seeds everyone who had grown them would mention the skunk smell, hundreds of times. And remember that Skunk #1 was the most distributed variety for a decade 75-85 and until long after 85 the folks out there still had lots of them to grow. They were cheap, .50 to a buck per seed.
I will try and stay out of the RKS threads, really the only reason was to correct some mis-conceptions about Skunk #1 or me. So I hope everyone out there finds what they want, I would be surprised if no one besides me has the RKS Skunk #1 seeds in a freezer, or clones, but as these threads have been going on for a decade now, maybe not. I understand that many people want RKS, it is not that hard to achieve, it may not be my Skunk #1 RKS but if it is just the smell you are after, just cross prospective Afghans times Columbian Gold and then take the F1 seeds and cross the best times an Acapulco Gold. Or just find a random clone from any seeds that has the smell you want. The smell was not my goal back then, I just wanted a Indica/Sativa hybrid or correctly a WLD/NLD hybrid that people liked. Apparently I did succeed at that. Good luck to all.
-SamS

Thank you Sam. Again I gained perspective
I don't think it would ever be so simple.
It isn't like you didn't put in dedicated work, You put in plenty Skunkman. I understand why you bred away from it. I would never say anything negative against why you did what you did either.

Finding those true landraces would be a task in itself I believe without personally traveling to those countries, As it was done before seedbanks. (As it still is done by the likes of bodhi for instance).

Then finding landraces which were similar to what you worked with, Having those actually attributes would be something else.

Not to mention as you did the selecting it would be ignorant to assume just by some simple crossing one could truly find that.

No Skunkman I'd never blow skunk#1 off as it was an easy feat as a lot of other strains were built off of it.

I'd give it a shot but if it was that easy I think others looking to cash in would have perhaps tried it?

a .50 - 1.00 a seed that was a steal! The times have changed indeed.

Hell the only old stories I've heard aside from you've told is from the Mel Frank book I learned with and Old DJ Short articles out of HT and such.

I never meant to offend you. I just believe it isn't beating a dead horse.

I wish these threads helped to progress those who were truly interested into the right directions even if that meant trying a hand at breeding. That is all.

Thanks again for that post in particular.

With respect,

TR

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

For the last 20+ years I only charged less then .10 cents a seed, my goal was not to be rich, it was to change the world. $10.00 a seed is robbery in my mind. But most seed companies today seem to have their own ideas about this.
-SamS

a .50 - 1.00 a seed that was a steal! The times have changed indeed.


With respect,

TR

 

[Brelva]

I still run across commercial shit all the time that reeks to high heaven of dead skunks. I don't think it's very rare in terms of the general populace. Maybe it's just become more and more rare in the connoisseur/internet grower scene for whatever reason (skunk being the default generic 'pot smell' and heads wanting to always explore more exotic aromas)?

 

[HidingInTheHaze]

I still run across commercial shit all the time that reeks to high heaven of dead skunks.

Thats the last time I came across true skunk too. It was a bag of mexican mids with total dead skunk odor but that was about 8 years ago or more.

 

[stickshift]

What is this WLD/NLD ??

see here the links are at the bottom of the page. don't know why but can't attach all pdfs myself.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=4090225&postcount=61

 

[rik78]

I can not fund the WLD/NLD anywhere on those links.....

 

[stickshift]

I can not fund the WLD/NLD anywhere on those links.....

then with all respect you aren't reading very well.

 

[PaullyHighBred]

On the topic of the misuse of the terms "sativa" and "indica":

The most current genetic and chemotypic evidence (ex. from Hillig and Mahlberg) finds that what we call "indica" (i.e. wide-leafleted drug-biotype; WLDB) and "sativa" (i.e. narrow-leafleted drug-biotype; NLDB) are both of the same species: C. indica [5][6][7]. Probally the simplest taxonomy is that WLDB is C. indica var. afghanica and NLDB is C. indica var. indica [8]. Hemp falls under the species C. indica and C. sativa. Ruderalis is most probably a third species of C. spp called C.ruderalis.

That means if people use the term "sativa" for something like Haze they are misusing the term. Haze is really an indica species (i.e. C. indica), aka NLDB. Haze is of the same species as Hindu-Kush, which is a WLDB, both Haze and Hindu-Kush are under the species C. indica. Thus we should not be calling Haze, Thai, Kali-Mist, etc., "sativas", we should be calling them simply "NLDB indica"; and we should not be calling Hindu-Kush, Afghan, NL #5, etc., "indicas", we should be calling them simply "WLDB indica". That said, calling Hindu-Kush an "indica" is far more correct than calling Haze a "sativa"...

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

People always seem to want what they cannot have, the grass is always greener, or stinkier, on the other side.

Having said that, just to toss a few gallons of petrol on the fire... If you really want to have something similar to RKS, a weed that Sam constantly got asked to tame due to it´s insane odour, why not start with the Cheese clone, (the brightside) a Skunk 1 that is not quite the same as the common sweet Skunk 1´s that came from the Dutch part of the story. Cross this to some stinky Afghani Indica males, select.. Then you too can probably make something so smelly nobody will really want to grow it and also get asked to "tame" it.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I thought hemp varieties are almost all Sativa?
Karl and RCC now just uses NLD, WLD, NLH, WLH, the B is unneeded. Ruderalis is I think called NLHA or BLHA.
-SamS

On the topic of the misuse of the terms "sativa" and "indica":

The most current genetic and chemotypic evidence (ex. from Hillig and Mahlberg) finds that what we call "indica" (i.e. wide-leafleted drug-biotype; WLDB) and "sativa" (i.e. narrow-leafleted drug-biotype; NLDB) are both of the same species: C. indica [5][6][7]. Probally the simplest taxonomy is that WLDB is C. indica var. afghanica and NLDB is C. indica var. indica [8]. Hemp falls under the species C. indica and C. sativa. Ruderalis is most probably a third species of C. spp called C.ruderalis.

That means if people use the term "sativa" for something like Haze they are misusing the term. Haze is really an indica species (i.e. C. indica), aka NLDB. Haze is of the same species as Hindu-Kush, which is a WLDB, both Haze and Hindu-Kush are under the species C. indica. Thus we should not be calling Haze, Thai, Kali-Mist, etc., "sativas", we should be calling them simply "NLDB indica"; and we should not be calling Hindu-Kush, Afghan, NL #5, etc., "indicas", we should be calling them simply "WLDB indica". That said, calling Hindu-Kush an "indica" is far more correct than calling Haze a "sativa"...

 

[PaullyHighBred]

I'm sure you're no doubt correct Sam,

the above is Quoted from stickshift's link, from a post contributed by Spurr
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...5&postcount=61

On the topic of the misuse of the terms "sativa" and "indica":

The most current genetic and chemotypic evidence (ex. from Hillig and Mahlberg) finds that what we call "indica" (i.e. wide-leafleted drug-biotype; WLDB) and "sativa" (i.e. narrow-leafleted drug-biotype; NLDB) are both of the same species: C. indica [5][6][7]. Probally the simplest taxonomy is that WLDB is C. indica var. afghanica and NLDB is C. indica var. indica [8]. Hemp falls under the species C. indica and C. sativa. Ruderalis is most probably a third species of C. spp called C.ruderalis.

That means if people use the term "sativa" for something like Haze they are misusing the term. Haze is really an indica species (i.e. C. indica), aka NLDB. Haze is of the same species as Hindu-Kush, which is a WLDB, both Haze and Hindu-Kush are under the species C. indica. Thus we should not be calling Haze, Thai, Kali-Mist, etc., "sativas", we should be calling them simply "NLDB indica"; and we should not be calling Hindu-Kush, Afghan, NL #5, etc., "indicas", we should be calling them simply "WLDB indica". That said, calling Hindu-Kush an "indica" is far more correct than calling Haze a "sativa"...

 

[supermanlives]

haven't had a good skunk since my Vermont days long ago. bigass seeds really stinky. bet someone there still got it. probably hoarding it . all the skunks I have tried are sort of sweet and not skunky at all

 

[JetLife175]

cant believe no one has brought up the mass super skunk. thats some funk for sure.

 

[Small time]

Back in 85 I bought a quarter of skunk. Back then we all skydived and we shred and shared alike. I got lucky and got one bean, and that was it for seeds in the entire batch (pound). I grew it and lucked out with a female. Went from 4 x 24" florescent, to 6 x 48" floros, and finally MH and HPS. I became the skunk man of the crew for for the next eight years until my cancer had me lose the strain due to the non stop hospital time. Because of the smell, no one else was willing to grow it, but I LOVED it and the neighbors were all sure I had a critter in the wood pile.

Cancer is back, but is slow growing. I'd love to come across the old strain and would do it justice. It always took care of my pain like no other.`

 

[Happy 7]

Are there any infos on the terpene profiles of Skunk#1 and/or the RKS pheno?

 

[barefootseeds]

So... what was in the jar? Thanks Chimera!

I can't speak for chimera but I wouldn't be suprised if it were of some relation to his schnazzleberry

No doubt in my mind if one got lucky or grew enough you could find a road kill skunk in those seeds.

 

[bigherb]

This thread while a repetitive topic to which many of its questions have already been answered have evoked some great post/topics .Sorta got my wheels rollin with some questions


I think the fact that this is somthing elusive is why it is searched by many ,We always want what we cant have .While i agree/understand Sams point (that if it is not commonly available) not many thought to keep the RKS stock/clone alive.Its not like an Elite of today found in seeds ,it was sold for a long time in large amounts

I also believe late 70's -80's were a much different time an prop 215 started to roll the ball with trading/ passing/selling clones.The clone generation evolved quite abit after RKS was common .As we all know what is truely still around from the 70's

But i also believe that todays trend of loud/stank Bud this RKS would be in high demand an a great breeding strain with true potential .

The pedigree given is Afghan x Cg / APG .I dont believe it can be duplicated for the fact that most landraces or traditional imports have been hybridized or fields/areas eradicated .Some clones ive seen claiming to be RKS or Sk#1 from 80's have a sativa apperance not present in the more indica dom looking Sk of today



While not of my interest ,although i do appreciate the darker terpenes of cannabis Skunk included .

THE ONLY HARM IS YOU IMPLYING I DO NOT HAVE MAYBE 25 SKUNK #1 CLONES OVER 20 YEARS OLD AND SEEDS FROM EVEN LONGER AGO, I DO, AND SOME ARE SKUNKY. THE REAL OLD SEEDS FROZEN AWAY FOR 30 YEARS ARE ALL SKUNKY, LIKE THE SKUNK #2 SEEDS.
YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW MANY SEEDS AND CLONES I HAVE MAINTAINED THAT IS FOR SURE, BUT OTHERS DO AND HAVE SEEN THEM.
NOT KILOS, BUT TONS OF SEEDS..
I EVEN HAVE 20 YEAR OLD POLLEN, FROZEN AT -30c, AND YES IT IS STILL VIABLE, I USED SOME RECENTLY TO MAKE SEEDS, I STILL HAVE MAYBE 100 KINDS OF POLLEN, OVER 10 KG OF FROZEN POLLEN. O HAZE, SKUNK #1 & #2 AS WELL AS A WHOLE LOT MORE.

-SAMS

I wonder Sams why you wouldnt gift a friend of the community ,maybe one of our active breeders (Chimera) some of the RKS stock you have ?

If Its not of your interest in anyway an you dont have time or desire to release them. Id imagine someone you repect would appreciate working with it who has a desire an time .


I appreciate your Gift in the first place an all you still contribute with your post of the latest events an your experiences .I wondered many times (i believe ive asked long ago) if we will see any new creations from you or are strains/new creations for personal use .

Considering todays technologies an understandings of cannabis with your vast experience/ knowledge an leaps forward we have taken . Im curious if your breeding projects will once again be shared with the community or is that part of history written ?


Much Respect

1luvbigherb

 

[willyweed]

if the price was right,it would be out the door.everybody has a price! the one's that do not think they have a price, have not been offered enough yet already .
i am sure with enough people wanting ,beans could be purchased . I personally have a couple of hundred seeds taken from some of the smelliest weed over a 20 year period ,after following the new age travellers from site to site for about 5 years chasing that dam smelly skunk weed.

all the best in your search for rks.ww