what was the final answer??????
maybe not needed but if wanted is there a final answer ?
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maybe not needed but if wanted is there a final answer ?
DirtEhandZ
New member
Now this is my kind of thread
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asa77sol
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]what was the final answer??????[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](173g MKP + 241g K2SO4)/L=Hammerhead 0-9-18[/FONT]
([FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]MKP - 75.46g K2SO4 - 247.48g)/L=noname 0-4-15
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([FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]MKP - 78.2g K2SO4 - 91,8g)/L=noname 0-4-7
[/FONT]([FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]MKP - 47,6g K2SO4 - 19g)/L=noname 0-2-3
Atami PK13/14
http://www.atami-downloads.com/msds/en/ata/PK 13-14 Eng.pdf
[/FONT]Phosphoric pentoxide 15.96%
Potassium Oxide 17.67%
3M(100%) H3PO4 + 5M(100%) KOH --->NPK 0-37,06-41,01
The rate of the two PK is exactly same, you just have to dilute it till you get the wished solution.
60% H3PO4 (g=1,37g/cm3)--->1dl= 137g*0,6=82,2g 100%H3PO4
82,2g/98g= 0,8388M
3M/0,8388=3,57dL (or 3,57*1,37=489g)
15,96%P/37,06%P= 0,43
3,57dL*0,43= 1,53dL 60%H3PO4 (or 210g)
0,43*5M KOH= 120,6g
([FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]60%H3PO4 - 210g KOH - 120g)/L=Atami PK13/14 0-16-18
If you use MKP(KH2PO4, 136g/M) and 2KP(K2HPO4, 174g/M) in 1:2 mol-rate you get NPK 0-44,5-47,5
In this case the rate is similar but the pH is probably neutral.
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([FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]MKP[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] - 60g 2KP - 155g)/L=Canna PK13/14 0-10-11
You can not dilute more weight in a liter...
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Caravaggio
Member
Question for calculation of DRY ferts like Maxibloom and Grow.
How would I calculate an NPK if I wanted to get the P lower than the N?
MaxiBloom 5-15-14 NPK
MaxiGrow 10-5-14 NPK
My initial thought was to do 2/3 Grow and 1/3 Bloom
How do I calculate what this would end up being?
How would I calculate an NPK if I wanted to get the P lower than the N?
MaxiBloom 5-15-14 NPK
MaxiGrow 10-5-14 NPK
My initial thought was to do 2/3 Grow and 1/3 Bloom
How do I calculate what this would end up being?
5-15-14 • 1/3
+
10-5-14 • 2/3
-------------------
8.3-8.3-14
+
10-5-14 • 2/3
-------------------
8.3-8.3-14
N= (10+10+5)/3=8.33
P= (5+5+15)/3=8.33
K=(14+14+14)/3=14
or 3 grow to 1 bloom
N=(10+10+10+5)/4=8.75
P=(5+5+5+15)/4=7.5
K=(14+14+14+14)/4=14
Caravaggio
Member
That's the ratio i think im lookin for right there. What do you guys think of running that all the way through bloom?
I think im gonna give it a shot
UNREGISTRD
Active member
Great first post...Just want it handed to you huh!! lol
any more?
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AlterEgo860
if anyones currently using any of these DIY nute mixes and having success let me know. I have access to reagent grade lab solvents and acids. .. also able to get the salts and others off the net.. but I need some help as to wat ill need. just trying to make it so wen I make my flip box I can afford to runu double the flower space and LOWER MY PRICES.. so I need to get a nute that's cheap.. and produces amazing. buds.. i don't know wat to do .. wat is the cheapest ORGANIC nutes?
The above is a golden oldie ... with aaa results ...but the formula is better without kno3 and more CaNo3
I mix a stock solution 200 to 1 for example CaNo3 .71 g per L x 200 = 142 g dissolved in 1 L capacity container... you need to start with less than a Litre so the 142 g doesn, t overflow the container
Thats my part a part b conrains everything else including micros...part b takes a little more care to control precip.
Reg24
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Inspired333
This is crazy mad science, so interesting. I love it.
UNREGISTRD
Active member
has anyone sent there concentrates to hydrofarmlab for testing? See how accurate the spreads are?
I use the following in my hydro:
Calcium Nitrate
Potassium Nitrate
Mono-Potassium Phosphate
Magnesium Sulfate
Trace element ready powder mix
Phosphoric acid for Ph-
H2O2
I have great results, I use formulas I got from hydro farms only for reference and a ppm meter. it is the best way to fertilize, having perfect control over feeding.
there are other chemicals that i still want but I never needed them so badly. for big scale farms, using more wider range with good testing equipment for each element separately in your mix enables farmers to recycle their fertilizers indefinitely. That is they not only test TDS total dissolved solids, but also test for n p k ca mg s fe mn zn boron dissolved oxygen etc... then add only the chemical that is deficient. In my research I found about 15 or more chemicals that you could use for a big hydro farm, but if you want to make your own mix for an indoor operation where you dump your ferts every while, then you could go with the ones that I use.
Hope this helps,
cheers.
Calcium Nitrate
Potassium Nitrate
Mono-Potassium Phosphate
Magnesium Sulfate
Trace element ready powder mix
Phosphoric acid for Ph-
H2O2
I have great results, I use formulas I got from hydro farms only for reference and a ppm meter. it is the best way to fertilize, having perfect control over feeding.
there are other chemicals that i still want but I never needed them so badly. for big scale farms, using more wider range with good testing equipment for each element separately in your mix enables farmers to recycle their fertilizers indefinitely. That is they not only test TDS total dissolved solids, but also test for n p k ca mg s fe mn zn boron dissolved oxygen etc... then add only the chemical that is deficient. In my research I found about 15 or more chemicals that you could use for a big hydro farm, but if you want to make your own mix for an indoor operation where you dump your ferts every while, then you could go with the ones that I use.
Hope this helps,
cheers.
