WiFi, a Taste of California...

[smilley]

Thanks for the ego massage Bmac1. I'm down to my last ounce of Blockhead and ounce of Hawaiian Snow Diesel so it'll be nice to start replenishing the reserves and nicer yet to smoke something different for a change. I smoked my last hash reefer of the HSD last night and can't wait to smoke some hash from the wifi trim.

 

[willyweed]

i have seen a lot worse ,first grows ! you should be proud with what you have achieved ,and be a better grower for the next time .

 

[smilley]

i have seen a lot worse ,first grows ! you should be proud with what you have achieved ,and be a better grower for the next time .

Oh, you guys

I've been growing under lights for over 10 years, and it seems that after my annual 3 month shutdown I forget everything I learned from before. I still like to hang it all out there for everyone to see, the good, the bad and the ugly. Maybe someone will learn from my mistakes as well. As long as I can produce a kg of "A" bud over 3 crops I'm a happy camper. I'd still like to up the yields substantially as everything
over a kg goes straight to hash production.

 

[RB26]

Just remember, slow and steady never hurt anything. If you aren't feeding enough and your plants are hungry, they will show you pretty obviously. Might take a week or two longer per run, but you won't have any problems!

 

[smilley]

I hear you IC OVO. It's easier to add than subtract, that's for sure. The girls are going to get a final feeding of 5ml/gal and then straight water to the finish. Right now I'm feeding the clones at 8ml/gal veg and they're really diggin it. When they go into flower, I'll start them at 8ml/gal flower and then bump it up 1ml per week till 10 or a bit more maybe. When I changed to 10/gal back in late week 6 (on this crop) they really perked up so I'm sure the clones will cruise right right along at that regime.

I'm loathe to buy an EC meter. I'm on my 3rd ph pen in 10 years so I'm sure I could wreck the EC meters at the same rate. I should have asked and done more research on the PBP. There's lots of threads here on the mag that would have led me in the right direction.

So, here's my new rules for feeding. On a new strain I'll start in veg at 5/gal and bump it up gradually (1ml per week). Probably won't take them past 10/gal in veg unless they look like their starving. If the plants are hungry, they should grow more roots, right? Same thing for flower except start at 8/gal. That being said, if I'm growing something purported to be "heavy feeders" I'll experiment a bit. What I'm finding is the heavier feeders I've got going now are taking up more liquid so still getting what they need. Easy shmeezy...

 

[smilley]

The Clones

The Clones

They're growing like crazy. More proof that less is more. Just 1 week from the clone pics above.... (post #153)

This one 4 weeks from cutting at F32.

 

[RB26]

Wow, those took off! Glad to see things have straightened out!

 

[smilley]

The Clones

The Clones

Here they are a week later. I've raised the lamp and moved the plants to the perimeter.I was getting a bit of leaf bleaching on the clone directly under the 400mh so I'll use that area for my new cuttings. I cut 2 test clones last night. I'm not ready to cut all the clones for the final crop but I want to make sure my technique is good so a little practice session.....

 

[smilley]

Day F66

Day F66

The plants are basically ready for harvest. I'm running straight water for a few more days and then chop, chop......

You can see the evidence of overfeeding earlier in flower everywhere but the buds are still looking pretty good (but small). I'll post up the final harvest numbers when the buds are dry, but it's going to be a small yield. The 2 BC Kush (not shown) in this crop didn't suffer nearly as much as the wifi from overfeeding and should help the overall crop yield. Hoping for 300g but realistically the final yield will probably be between 200 - 250g. I promise I'll do a better job on the next crop.

 

[the gnome]

they are some frosty gals smilley
looking to hear the yield and smoke report on this one.

wish wifi was in stock...anywhere lol

 

[smilley]

Hi gnome. I'm sure OGR will release another batch. Probably his best seller yet. I read in another thread a few months ago "...if you can grow kush, you can grow wifi...". I thought to myself, ha, ha, how tough can they be to grow? Then I proceeded to burn the shit out of the roots from start to finish. I almost had a catastophic clone failure. Oh, and don't forget, I killed off one of the seedlings by spritzing it with pinesol. Despite my torture, they'll still produce a nice little harvest to get me thru to next harvest.

I can't afford anymore screw-ups over the next 2 crops or I'll run out of bud sometime next year in October or November.

Can't wait to smoke the wifi and make some fresh trim hash for Xmas.

 

[the gnome]

Hi gnome. I'm sure OGR will release another batch. Probably his best seller yet. I read in another thread a few months ago "...if you can grow kush, you can grow wifi...". I thought to myself, ha, ha, how tough can they be to grow? Then I proceeded to burn the shit out of the roots from start to finish. I almost had a catastophic clone failure. Oh, and don't forget, I killed off one of the seedlings by spritzing it with pinesol. Despite my torture, they'll still produce a nice little harvest to get me thru to next harvest.

I can't afford anymore screw-ups over the next 2 crops or I'll run out of bud sometime next year in October or November.

Can't wait to smoke the wifi and make some fresh trim hash for Xmas.

haha...yeah I read the 1st 2 pages and fast scanned to the last few... pinesol will do it.
its not hard to do, i know... in a bad way..


I keep bleach and pinesol in 16oz coors lite cans for the Co2 water gen rez and cleaning up in the the gro room.
Ive made the mistake of grabbing one and taking a big slug out of it a few times now

listerine ain't got beanz on 6%bleach!

anywayz... knockin it hard with the wifi smilley

 

[RB26]

Looks like your clones are loving what you're doing, keep it up!

 

[smilley]

Hey thanks IC OVO, that means a lot coming from you.

I wanted to pick your brain a little bit more on the PBP for flower. You say that 10ml/gal is about 1200ppm. , is that ph adjusted? To get my ph up to 6.3 at 10ml/gal I have to add about 0.5ml/gal. of ph up. Will that change the ppm and if so by about how much? Also, I use a typical big city water supply, reads 7.0ph, has chlorine, flouride etc, does that alter the ppm calculation?

 

[RB26]

Hey thanks IC OVO, that means a lot coming from you.

I wanted to pick your brain a little bit more on the PBP for flower. You say that 10ml/gal is about 1200ppm. , is that ph adjusted? To get my ph up to 6.3 at 10ml/gal I have to add about 0.5ml/gal. of ph up. Will that change the ppm and if so by about how much? Also, I use a typical big city water supply, reads 7.0ph, has chlorine, flouride etc, does that alter the ppm calculation?

Sorry I didn't see this sooner.

Yes, city water will affect your PPM. If you aren't running it through an RO filter, it will likely come out of your tap at 200-300ppm. I've never grown with tap water, but if I did, I would lower my added nutrients so it still topped out at 1200-1300ppm.

I can't remember exactly, but last run I was using 15ml/g of PBP and I was around 1300-1500ppm (that is total, PH adjusted, including my other additives, using RO that starts at 0 PPM). This current run, I have dialed it back a little and I will be using 10ml/g for the first week or two, then pumping it to 12ml/g where I will likely leave it.

What sort of pH up/down are you doing? Is it the cheap GH stuff? I've found that using the concentrated Advanced Nutrients brand of pH up/down is best. It only takes about 5-10ml to swing 100 gallons of fresh nutrient solution from 6.0 to 5.5

I used the GH brand up/down for a while and I had to add TONS of it. That stuff definitely was adding to my total PPM because I had to use so much of it. I think it would raise it about 100-200 PPM at times. I'd switch to the Advanced if you can, it isn't more expensive and 1 gallon will last you forever. The Advanced stuff does not add to your PPM, unless you pour way too much in.

 

[smilley]

Hey, thanks for the info, that's exactly what I wanted to know. Really, I need a ppm meter and then I can dial it in. I hate to say it, but I'm a bit of a hillbilly, in that I want to keep it easy and cheap. I think I'm going to finish off the season without hauling ro water or buying a unit and/or ppm meter. I'll just start the nutes at 8ml/gal and watch the plants for over feeding. It sounds like I've got the cheap ph down because I use 10 X's as much to get the same results. I was hoping not to go back to the hydro store again this year (there's the lazy/cheap Canadian hillbilly again) . To be honest though, I think I know what the clones want and need now after torture testing the mom's and all of your advice and insight..

I've got 4 of the 6 wifi's manicured and drying now. The buds are really resiney but it's going to be a lite harvest. I didn't take any harvest pics of them because they were no raving hell. I'll snap a pic of the elite before I debud her. she's the only one I'm proud of. I also have 2 BC Kush that are going to go another week, but they'll save my harvest (good yield). They took the smilley force feeding regime without skipping a beat. I'll post a pic of each in a coupe of days.

Ic OVO thanks again I'm learning.............

 

[smilley]

BC Kush Day F74

BC Kush Day F74

These girls have another week to go but are going to produce a good amount of bud.

 

[smilley]

The Final WIFI at Day F73

The Final WIFI at Day F73

This one plant makes up for the other 5.......

 

[RB26]

Hey, thanks for the info, that's exactly what I wanted to know. Really, I need a ppm meter and then I can dial it in. I hate to say it, but I'm a bit of a hillbilly, in that I want to keep it easy and cheap. I think I'm going to finish off the season without hauling ro water or buying a unit and/or ppm meter. I'll just start the nutes at 8ml/gal and watch the plants for over feeding. It sounds like I've got the cheap ph down because I use 10 X's as much to get the same results. I was hoping not to go back to the hydro store again this year (there's the lazy/cheap Canadian hillbilly again) . To be honest though, I think I know what the clones want and need now after torture testing the mom's and all of your advice and insight..

I've got 4 of the 6 wifi's manicured and drying now. The buds are really resiney but it's going to be a lite harvest. I didn't take any harvest pics of them because they were no raving hell. I'll snap a pic of the elite before I debud her. she's the only one I'm proud of. I also have 2 BC Kush that are going to go another week, but they'll save my harvest (good yield). They took the smilley force feeding regime without skipping a beat. I'll post a pic of each in a coupe of days.

Ic OVO thanks again I'm learning.............

Well you're plants are looking good so I wouldn't worry about it too much, but a good PPM meter is an essential tool. They aren't too expensive and when you think about it, they will pay for themselves 10xs over by giving you healthier plants. You can even get used ones that work fine, same goes for small RO units. I've got the Evolution 1000 which is probably way larger than you need, but the smaller version is pretty cheap.

 

[smilley]

Looks like she might yield close to 2 zips.

Very sticky buds......

I'm soooooooo happy