"The Clear" Solventless hash from harborside

[FatherEarth]

Please give me your thoughts on this:
Is it really true that oil is runny because of moisture content?
I thought it was because 100% THC with zero moisture and the THC will run.
100% THC is like a very thick epoxy glue, but it will run even after desication and being packed in dry nitrogen for preservation.
THCA does not run unless you leave in lots of terpenes, then it can be bendy.
I have dried out oil with THC that has been dcarboxylated it still runs even after months, just collect a bunch that has been dried in a pile and watch it run.
Anyone else have any experience on the issue?
-SamS

Quite the opposite actually..Wow now Im wondering what it is Ive been turning into shatter. Ive been able to take oil that has been overheated and and gone goo, spread it fairly thin, add medium heat intermittently while under vacuum and get it to dry out and shatter in a couple days... It stays shatter after it comes out of the vacuum, unless its a 90%RH day in the rainforest, then it gets tacky if it is been scraped into dust or chips.

Respectfully,

FE

 

[co2extractor]

There's more than 1 way to get shatter. But CANNABINOL is what I think the mass hype is over. Its so pure it is colorless and recrystallized into shards or chizals. It has legendary status w testimonies swearing motor skills were disabled for hours.

 

[indianajones]

while this all seems like nice and intelligent writing, until i see some pictures with GC/MS or similar tests i don't really believe any of it.

i realize that sounds really pessimistic, sorry.

 

[vapor]

some strain very few stay sappy runny when done{ i have seen 2}, most are shatter/hard not runny at all. Interesting

 

[Gray Wolf]

There's more than 1 way to get shatter. But CANNABINOL is what I think the mass hype is over. Its so pure it is colorless and recrystallized into shards or chizals. It has legendary status w testimonies swearing motor skills were disabled for hours.

Ummmmm, is that right? I've no doubt that there is a lot of swearing and testimonials going on in your neck of the woods bro, but suspect some of them may be trying to shuck you.

Folks here say they wouldn't shuck me nary a none, just cause I'm not bright, but it was secretly revealed to me by a friend, that some rascals continue to secretly try.

Thank Gawd for friends and keepers, or ah wouldn't have ever fingered out on mah own.

Certainly a lot of interest in cannabidiol, but none that I've seen suggesting that it disables motor skills. May I ask where you heard that information?

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I have to agree, I have 100% pure CBN and it was very physical, but not a nice high at all. Like the oldest Mex or Columbo... I do not believe anyone would want it.
It has a higher affinity for the CB2 receptor then the CB1 receptor.
Was he referring to CBD? He said CBN...
Here I will post a photo of CBN, CBG and CBD. Sorry I am so lousy a photographer.
CBN is a bit more chunky powder, CBG is fluffy flakes, CBD a greasy almost crystalline powder. All melt into an oil when heated.
-SamS

Ummmmm, is that right? I've no doubt that there is a lot of swearing and testimonials going on in your neck of the woods bro, but suspect some of them may be trying to shuck you.

Folks here say they wouldn't shuck me nary a none, just cause I'm not bright, but it was secretly revealed to me by a friend, that some rascals continue to secretly try.

Thank Gawd for friends and keepers, or ah wouldn't have ever fingered out on mah own.

Certainly a lot of interest in cannabidiol, but none that I've seen suggesting that it disables motor skills. May I ask where you heard that information?

 

[m314]

There's more than 1 way to get shatter. But CANNABINOL is what I think the mass hype is over. Its so pure it is colorless and recrystallized into shards or chizals. It has legendary status w testimonies swearing motor skills were disabled for hours.

I made a batch of oil a few weeks ago with old trim from 2006. I was testing a new process, so I wanted to try it with material that wasn't very good anymore. I think it has a lot more CBN than THC from what I've read. Whatever's in it gives a strong body feeling with sort of a mental fuzziness. A body fuzziness too. Feels like you're wearing a sweater when you're naked.

It's not really pleasant on its own. It is pleasant when mixed with high THC oil. A few weeks before I had made a batch of brownies using some of that old trim along with some new trim from the last harvest. My ex gf loved it. She said it almost forced her to relax and made her feel like a peach. Fuzzy all over. I think I isolated the "peach" component of the high with that batch of oil.

I don't really know it's CBN causing that particular feeling. This oil came out dark and runny, not like shatter at all. It would be interesting to get it tested.

 

[m314]

Certainly a lot of interest in cannabidiol, but none that I've seen suggesting that it disables motor skills. May I ask where you heard that information?

My ex said she got physically stuck in her bed when she overdid it once with those brownies. She was so high she couldn't get up. That was the first time I had heard something like that. I think those brownies had a mix of cannabinoids with high CBN and THC, but it's just speculation without testing.

 

[Gray Wolf]

I have to agree, I have 100% pure CBN and it was very physical, but not a nice high at all. Like the oldest Mex or Columbo... I do not believe anyone would want it.
It has a higher affinity for the CB2 receptor then the CB1 receptor.
Was he referring to CBD? He said CBN...
Here I will post a photo of CBN, CBG and CBD. Sorry I am so lousy a photographer.
CBG is fluffy flakes, CBD a greasy almost crystalline powder, CBN is a bit more chunky powder. All melt into an oil when heated.
-SamS

My experience with CBN, is that it puts me to sleep and leaves me with a morning hangover, but I haven't noticed extreme losses in motor skills.

I did notice that making THC Acetate, elevates the CBN, yet doesn't produce sleepiness, and the senses are sharpened, rather than diminished. I think it depends a lot on what else is present.

 

[theJointedOne]

so what is the clear?

 

[co2extractor]

Unless your near 50 years old, it has been long forgotten about, hype of yellow oil is getting the best reviews by some of the lesser fortunate who not any idea what real quality oil is. Quality stuff is done w minimal amounts. I get clouds from safety pin sized dabs and the crackpipe. Anything more is just wasting in vien as it is why $50 is easy to get per gram and easily explains the beefy price tag.

 

[co2extractor]

Cannabinol is supposed to be a real intense high that when mistaken for something else, people easily over do it. The amount that can accidentally overdone is on a minute scale. So if one matchhead size amount does the trick,people newly trying this did to much and the cb1, cb2 is bombarded and these gates that normally open and close allowing seratonin, endorphins, etc are closed not allowing the bodies chemistry to operate normally. Its perhaps the reason so many people describing a ablity to know what motor skill needed to get done, but literally was immobile from the cannabinol overwhelming the brain.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Cannabinol is supposed to be a real intense high that when mistaken for something else, people easily over do it. .

Supposed to be?

Source?

 

[midwestHIGHS]

co2 extractor sounds a lot like that co2 goof from rollitup, only person I've ever heard ramble on an on about the immense high from pure cbn. If falling asleep is intense, than cbn would be your thing.

 

[dybert]

co2 extractor sounds a lot like that co2 goof from rollitup, only person I've ever heard ramble on an on about the immense high from pure cbn. If falling asleep is intense, than cbn would be your thing.

I've had the opportunity to try some high CBN oils (40%+) and I don't really have anything great to report about them. The high isn't anything to write home about. CBN is a degradation cannabinoid, and so you truly can force an oil to be high in CBN. I'm not totally convinced theres a reason to, though.

More and more I'm getting convinced that terpenes play a bigger role in modulating the effects of cannabinoids than anything else.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Cannabinol is supposed to be a real intense high that when mistaken for something else, people easily over do it. The amount that can accidentally overdone is on a minute scale. So if one matchhead size amount does the trick,people newly trying this did to much and the cb1, cb2 is bombarded and these gates that normally open and close allowing seratonin, endorphins, etc are closed not allowing the bodies chemistry to operate normally. Its perhaps the reason so many people describing a ablity to know what motor skill needed to get done, but literally was immobile from the cannabinol overwhelming the brain.

I did not find CBN so,,,
CBN may effect balance a bit but very large oral THC much more, maybe because you are getting high from 11-Hydroxy THC, more then THC?
Also in general high CBN herbal products or resin high in CBN, have little to no terpenes they have all evaporated away or been cooked away.

-SamS

 

[Gray Wolf]

I've had the opportunity to try some high CBN oils (40%+) and I don't really have anything great to report about them. The high isn't anything to write home about. CBN is a degradation cannabinoid, and so you truly can force an oil to be high in CBN. I'm not totally convinced theres a reason to, though.

More and more I'm getting convinced that terpenes play a bigger role in modulating the effects of cannabinoids than anything else.

Bingo! b-Myrcene content for instance, with regard to some of the analgesic and couch lock properties attributed to cannabis. I've seen oil couch locking way out of proportion to the levels of CBN present, and as I noted earlier, high CBN in THC-O-A seemed to bring mental clarity, rather than couch lock.

In that case, few, if any monoterpenes are left, due to the long processing to purge the hexane.

 

[MildeStoner]

When I read threads in which GW and Sam are dropping knowledge, I feel like a little kid on the first day of school. So much new, mind boggling information.
So thanks to you two, for teaching the rest of us, and additional thanks to the other highly educated folks chipping in

 

[co2extractor]

No Eden is not as great when it comes to pruduct purity, nor aware of how to properly condition the extracts ideal for cannabis cup. I know where the sweet spot is by analysis given by various testing methods used. The tests today are basically screening for salmonilla and e-coli contaminates since its for human consuption or not.

 

[co2extractor]

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