Birth of Cultivation Legend - 600w tent pics

[crackrocker]

This grow is dedicated to the Chicago and Memphis Police Departments!!

So this is my first post w/pics, hope they come out right.

My tent is a medium sized agromax tent, got ventilation hooked up to a CAN inline fan


Light is a 600W digital Apollo Horticulture ballast. I have a MH bulb in it now.


I germinated 5 seeds over labor day weekend. The seeds came from an order two years ago when i first got equipment, I ordered 5 Barney's Farm Sweet Tooth seeds and got about 6 or 7 freebies. I decided to try 5 of the freebies first to get my mistakes out of the way before i do the sweet tooths.

Tuesday I calibrated my blue lab PH pen with 4.0 and 7.0 calibration solution, seemed successful.

Filled a bowl with water, adjusted the PH down to 5.5 and soaked 4 rockwool cubes, one of the seedlings didnt germinate yet.

Two of the seeds had germinated fully, with the intial two leaves visible and shed the seed shell, i slid the root down in the rockwool cube's hole, the other two had just popped open.

Placed the 4 rockwool cubes in humidity dome, placed dome on floor of tent, light is about 3 and a half or 4 feet away from dome. I misted them with a spray bottle.


Afterwards I realized i didnt adjust the PH of the water I misted them with, hope that wont hurt them.

Sealed up tent for the night, now its 24 hours later and the seedlings that were well developed seemed to be responding well because they have perked up some since i initially put them in the tent. The other two seedlings have still not broken the surface of the rockwool.

Im building a small DWC system out of a 12 gallon tote, im cutting 3 inch circles in the lid for 3 inch net pots. Ill put 8 pots in the lid and drop a strong fish tank pump down in the reservoir in the tote.

Right now Im mostly wondering when i should water those cubes.

 

[crackrocker]

This morning after about 36 hours after setting the cubes under the light, I watered them with water I adjusted to 5.5 two days ago. The cubes looked a little dry on the edges

 

[crackrocker]

I also accidentally bumped a seedling.. Hope it doesn't hurt it

 

[crackrocker]

Wheres the love?

Wheres the love?

Wow where is the love from the community, no replies?!
Im looking for some guidance here people!

THOUGHT ID POST THE STRAINS CURRENTLY IN THE HUMIDITY DOME, probably should have done that first.

Blueberry Gum - G13 Labs
Veneno - Eva
Fruity Chronic Juice - Delicious Seeds
OG Kush


Anyway heres update pics.



The Veneno is the healthiest, straightest one, the Blueberry Gum is the more crooked one you cant see as well. Both looks healthy

Both of these have sprouted another set of much more marijuana looking leaves on top of the original set from germination.

Still no signs of seedlings in the other two cubes.

My main questions are how often should I be watering those cubes?

Is it necessary to continue using water adjusted down to 5.5 to water the cubes??

My dome has 2 adjustable ventilation hole/wheel things. Currently I have them closed all the way. Should I open them any?

 

[Epiphyte]

Looking good so far! My buddy out here in cali loves growing the FCJ....he likes to describe it as old school widow with some fruit...hope she works well for you!

 

[trichrider]

are you keeping track of what process' happens and what you can do to replicate it?
may seem scary, but it's perfectly natural...except the price of seeds that is.

take a breath and read everything you can scour up.

good growin'...

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

Wow where is the love from the community, no replies?!
Im looking for some guidance here people!

THOUGHT ID POST THE STRAINS CURRENTLY IN THE HUMIDITY DOME, probably should have done that first.

Blueberry Gum - G13 Labs
Veneno - Eva
Fruity Chronic Juice - Delicious Seeds
OG Kush


Anyway heres update pics.

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The Veneno is the healthiest, straightest one, the Blueberry Gum is the more crooked one you cant see as well. Both looks healthy

Both of these have sprouted another set of much more marijuana looking leaves on top of the original set from germination.

Still no signs of seedlings in the other two cubes.

My main questions are how often should I be watering those cubes?

Is it necessary to continue using water adjusted down to 5.5 to water the cubes??

My dome has 2 adjustable ventilation hole/wheel things. Currently I have them closed all the way. Should I open them any?

Yupp marijuana....... Shitzel, i feel like im talkin to myself over on my thread lol, it can be slow sometimes but were here.

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

5.5 is good for rw an yes keep at it an keep them moist.

 

[crackrocker]

Thx guys. and thanks arthritis for the input on the rockwool, sorry bout your arthritis..

So it looks like I'm having to re water this rockwool about every other day. I can just see parts of it dryin up some.

I still have the ventilation holes closed when should I start opening those?

 

[Snype]

Do yourself a favor and weigh the cubes when you do a full watering or flood. When the cube loses 20% of the weight, its time to flood again. You want the cube to dry some but not soaking either. A scale would really help you be more accurate for each separate cube.

So because you are doing DWC when they grow up, i will help guide you on your way. I have a lot of threads in my signature that can really help you with choosing pump sizes and formulas that you can use. Check them out and i will pop in from time to time to see how you are doing.

 

[crackrocker]

Humidity Dome new pics

Humidity Dome new pics

So heres some more pics with the new Kannabia seedling, and you can see some growth from the last pics.

All of them look like theyre turning out good.


This is the new one i put in, Kannabia.


This is the OG Kush seedling that has now poked through the rockwool looks nice


This is the Blueberry Gum. When i turned it over the root had come out of the bottom of the cube and extended out to the edge. I was suprised to see that, but no lateral root growth just the main root, think its called the meristem.


The shining star of the bunch, Veneo, or Venevo, but its by EVE i can check the label again. Same single root out the bottom situation as the Blueberry Gum. No visible lateral root growth.

I resoaked the Veneo and Blueberry Gum this morning.

The Fruity Chronic Juice hasnt poked through yet but I can see it now down in the hole its about to, so its lookin good as well.


The stylish shot

PLAN ON BUILDING MY INITAL DWC TUB TODAY!
Just have to return all the bullshit drill attachments i bought that dont work, seriously bought like three different things, broke one of em, think i know the right fuckin attachment to get this time tho.
Gotta grab some more 3 in pots too.

Ill post pics of the pumps i have as well. At first I just had a standard $15 pump that you can fit two airstones, but then the growstore guy talked me into buying this powerful fish tank pump, wasnt much more expensive put it was shootin like a jet stream in the fuckin fish tank he had behind the counter so I went ahead and picked it up. Ill post pics.

 

[crackrocker]

The rig that revolutionized DWC forever

The rig that revolutionized DWC forever

OKAY you might want to take a seat cause this is gunna knock you on ur ass!



Thats 14 gallons of genius and innovation. Those are 8, 3-inch net pots.

Lets take a look under the hood.


BOOM! Some kinda pump

Im not gunna fill it up till tomorrow cause i rubbed a lil silicone caulk around some of the fittings so it needs to dry.

I have another air pump that I was also considering using in conjunction with the pump already in there.


i can stick two more airstones in there.

Now that ive built this im wondering what to do when they get bigger.

Seedlings are looking great theyre all poppin up.

 

[crackrocker]

Tested the ph of the water in the test cube. I was worried I didn't get enough water for an accurate reading but it said 6.5

So that makes me wonder
Does resoaking cubes after theyve dried some in 5.5 bring the ph back down or does it rise more from being wet? My seedlings seem to be doing well.

 

[Snype]

Tested the ph of the water in the test cube. I was worried I didn't get enough water for an accurate reading but it said 6.5

So that makes me wonder
Does resoaking cubes after theyve dried some in 5.5 bring the ph back down or does it rise more from being wet? My seedlings seem to be doing well.

I tried to tell you but I don't know if you get it. You seem to like to read the directions from grow products that have no idea what they are talking about. The only thing that they are good at is taking your money. Just wait until you follow the directions of the nutrients that you are going to use and see how fucked up your plants will be. Water your plants with 5.2 solution from now on until the situation is fixed. You should really read my thread in my signature before your plants hit the DWC chamber. You will probably find out that your air pumps are too small. I have all my calculations in my RDWC guide (part 1) in my signature.

If you soak the cube too long now with the seedlings in it, you will end up drowning them. Your seedlings may look fine now but they may go down hill when you give them more time in the cube. Just start using a 5.2 solution for now and once the roots expand out of the cube and hit the DWC chamber, you will be good to go.

 

[justanotherbozo]

...while it is possible to get some serious results from DWC, it can also be quite frustrating, especially if you are new to growing, i grew in dirt my first couple of years and even so, DWC turned out to be way more work than i was willing to do.

... if you're interested in seeing what i went through learning to work with rockwool cubes and DWC i've posted links to the pertinent threads below.

learning to do DWC

my first store-bought genetics

...anyway, with all that being said, it didn't take me long before i found an easier softer way to get the same results with MUCH less labor and headaches and below i've listed three threads that might could change your world, i know they changed mine.
(i've been growing hempy style for near 5 years now and it's so easy it almost feels like i'm cheating)

this first is to a PASSIVE form of hydroponics called hempy buckets and being passive you need no pumps of any kind, which btw eliminates any chance at catastrophic crop loss due to pump failure.

The Official Hempy Bucket Thread

this next is to maybe the easiest feeding regimen out there, just one nutrient product from seed to harvest.

*The K.I.S.S. Method*

and this last is to Marlo's W.O.W. thread, an excellent setup for managing large plants.

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[/FONT]anyway, if you take the time to read these threads while you wait for your seedlings to grow i promise you won't be sorry.

peace, bozo

btw, you'll almost certainly want to use that air pump, maybe instead of that submersible pump, DWC's need a lot of air in the rootzone.

 

[crackrocker]

So if you soak the cubes overnight the ph doesn't climb like that? Next cubes ill try soaking em much longer and testing again.

I read over some of your threads previously ill take a closer look again.
Ill water with 5.2 from now on thx for the tip.

Ill post more pics o the seedlings tonight, the blueberry gum's root tail coming out the bottom has nice rhizomorphic growth

 

[crackrocker]

I planned on adding two more air stones from the non submersible pump I have.

 

[Snype]

I planned on adding two more air stones from the non submersible pump I have.

It's not about the amount of air stones that you have, it's about the amount of air that your pump puts out. Here is some calculations that I use for my RDWC systems:

Choosing the correct Air Pump to use
From the testing that I have done I have figured out the minimum required air that you will want to use. In these calculations I’ve taken into account that depending on your environment, your water temperatures will vary. The warmer the water is, the less Dissolved Oxygen that it can hold. I make my calculation in Liters so we will think about it this way here. Each 5 Gallon bucket in the system that you choose to build, will hold a maximum of 4 Gallons of water and in terms of Liters, that would be 15 Liters. Now you want to multiply the amount of buckets that you are going to use by 15 Liters. For example if you are using the 12 plant system, then you multiply 15 Liters x 12 buckets, which would give you 180 Liters. For whatever application that you choose to use, you want to use an air pump rated at half of those liters per minute. So in a 12 plant system you want a pump rated around 90 Liters per minute. You do not have to enter the control bucket into your calculations because the waterfall that is created by the water pump going into the controller supplies all the Dissolved Oxygen that you need. If you are using more than 6 buckets, I would suggest that you spend the extra money and get the Alita brand air pumps. They really are top of the line and it is a minimum expense for what you are going to get out of your yield and product. If you want to go the cheaper route, then any air pumps rated at the calculations above will work.

Choosing the correct Water Pump to use
Personally I like the water in my system to re-circulate at least every 5 minutes. This keeps your nutrient and pH in the system consistent. Most in-line pumps in my area are rated in Gallons Per Hour so we will use Gallons in our calculations here. Each bucket in the system holds a maximum of 4 Gallons of water. So we will take that number and multiply by the number of buckets that you have. For example in a 12 plant system, we have 13 buckets of water so we multiply that by 4 Gallons per bucket and get 52 Gallons. We want the water to re-circulate at least every 5 minutes and there are 12 five-minute periods in an hour, so we multiply 52 Gallons by 12 Cycles to get 624. This means that you want an in-line water pump that is rated for at least 624 Gallons Per Hour.

Chlorine as a preventative measure
I won’t tease you guys with my knowledge on Chlorine and everyone who doesn’t use live nutrients or supplements in hydroponics, I would advise you to keep a residual level of 0.50 PPM Chlorine at all times as a preventative measure against plant pathogens and future root problems. Always remember that too much Chlorine will kill your plants and you never want to put more than 1.0 PPM of Chlorine for large healthy plants. Cuttings and smaller plants are more sensitive to Chlorine and you will want to keep only 0.50 PPM of Chlorine so that you don’t risk killing them. My dropper gives 22 drops / 1 mL of liquid. Before giving Chlorine to small reservoirs you will want to see how many drops per mL your dropper gives so you give a safe amount of Chlorine. My dropper gives a 0.50 PPM of Chlorine at the rate of 1 drop of Clorox Bleach / 2 Gal. To give 0.50 PPM of Chlorine using Clorox Bleach, the equation is 1 mL of Clorox Bleach / 44 Gallons. Always take into account if your tap already has Chlorine in it and adjust your equation. Remember in a well aerated solution, Chlorine naturally disappears in 3-4 days so add in your Chlorine every 4 days as a preventative measure against future root and pathogen problems. Add this to your normal schedule and you will see how hard it is to get root problems again.

 

[crackrocker]

Ok so I actually read through that in your thread.

From what your saying I gather I need to see how much the gallon exchange rate for my pumps are and it should be able to replace the entire resevoir in 5 minutes

With this design the water stays in this tub the entire time and the pump an air stones will pump oxygen into the reservoir.

Are you saying this design isn't sufficient because it never drains and actually exchanges the water? Or am I good as long as my pumps can move about 13 gallons(size of my resevoir) every 5 minutes?

 

[Snype]

Ok so I actually read through that in your thread.

From what your saying I gather I need to see how much the gallon exchange rate for my pumps are and it should be able to replace the entire resevoir in 5 minutes

With this design the water stays in this tub the entire time and the pump an air stones will pump oxygen into the reservoir.

Are you saying this design isn't sufficient because it never drains and actually exchanges the water? Or am I good as long as my pumps can move about 13 gallons(size of my resevoir) every 5 minutes?

Because your system is DWC and not RDWC, it's the Air Pump that you need to take a look at. The Air Pump in your situation is the most important part of your system. It's all about your D.O. Saturation levels. The higher the water temperature, the less D.O. that your solution can hold. So if you have 13 Gallons of solution, you would need an air pump that can pump at the rate of 6.5 Gallons / Minute (or 25 Liters per Minute). Observe that these rates are per minute and not per hour. It doesn't matter what your Water Pump is rated at unless it works exactly like an Air Pump with air stones and if the rates are used in the same manner which I do not know because I never tested anything like that before. I do know that the little air pump that you have belongs in a trash can instead of your system. I wouldn't even use that for a 8 Gallon Bucket.