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stick it in a love machine
watch out for that tree
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big plant ppk
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"GENERAL PPK, I GLADLY AWARD YOU TWO PURPLE CALYXS AND FIVE GOLDEN TRICHOMES FOR YOUR HUMBLE, FEARLESS, EXPLORATIVE AND INNOVATIVE WORK"hl45 haiku...
go cut a branch off
stick it in a love machine
watch out for that tree
Can it get any easier?
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I thought I'd report I duplicated D9s new cloning technique and got growth on day 10. I took a limb about 12 inches long and trimmed all but the top few nodes off and stuck it in the turface about 15 inches from a 600 watt hps with no dome. My veg closet is small, I worried because I couldn't back them further away from the light. I was tempted to shade it but decided to try direct light. The clone never even wilted. Looks like I'll be sticking 1 in per week to feed my flower room. Thanks for the heads up D9!
Btw why did you go back to 24/7 veg lighting? I thought 8/4/8/4 was working well for you.
Btw why did you go back to 24/7 veg lighting? I thought 8/4/8/4 was working well for you.
I will sleep better at night knowing you've upgraded to chains and turnbuckles.
i had to when i went to the vertical flip. otherwise it would still be kite string and duct tape.
thanks!
you do be welcome, bro!
thanks! this is the "dope" from drgt. google "dope strain".
a very potent plant that is sativa dominate. i would say about a 70/30 sat/ ind. great floral fruity type taste. very distinctive high and flavor.
too strong for rookies! wah!
produces hard buds, very dense. this plant had no larf.
i'm always surprised by the weight. before you whack it you think there's no way that's more than 12-14 but the finished bud goes out at 15-18 so far with this lighting.
this one will be close to 1.5.
thank you!
cactusjack
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Hey D9! cactusjack here. Long time since I've posted, but you can bet I've been lurking. You've been up to some pretty amazing stuff!
A comment. On your post #755 in this thread, you show a picture of two clones in one pan. Your plan was to throw out the backup. It got me thinking. Why not plant 2 cones on opposite sides of a pan and use them both? The pan is wide enough that there would be a fair bit of separation between the two. As they grow they would form what would look like a single but wider plant. Probably more bud sites and since the combo would be wider than it is deep, it would present a wider face toward the light. Sort of like an espalier without all the effort. I say this because I currently grow four ppks around a single 1,000 watt HPS. Seems like it might be the cat's pajamas in my layout. However, the concept may not be as useful in the larger matrix of lights that you are using. Maybe just for your end plants.
Stay safe!
A comment. On your post #755 in this thread, you show a picture of two clones in one pan. Your plan was to throw out the backup. It got me thinking. Why not plant 2 cones on opposite sides of a pan and use them both? The pan is wide enough that there would be a fair bit of separation between the two. As they grow they would form what would look like a single but wider plant. Probably more bud sites and since the combo would be wider than it is deep, it would present a wider face toward the light. Sort of like an espalier without all the effort. I say this because I currently grow four ppks around a single 1,000 watt HPS. Seems like it might be the cat's pajamas in my layout. However, the concept may not be as useful in the larger matrix of lights that you are using. Maybe just for your end plants.
Stay safe!
i wonder how many root clones directly into a rdwc or an undercurrent? heh! heh!
i will go back to the 8-4-8-4 as soon as the weather cools down a bit. right now i run the 1k 12 hours a day in the veg room but leave the flo's on 24/7.
i am about to stop using the flo's in the way you see them here as they are pulling the foliage to the sides a little too much in veg.
i will probably go to 65 watt cfl's above each plant in veg in a reflector to try to keep them more compact.
thanks, good to hear from you! you should post more often.
you still getting 50 oz's from a 1k?
in both the "wicked pulse" thread and the "demonic deluge" thread i tried to get the plants to grow through the shade avoidance response and overlap each other.
it didn't work out so well.
as a result i'll never try to grow big plants in contact with each other again. it reduces yield by diverting mass building energy from flower building into stem building. it causes elongation as the plants compete for access to the light.
i can't sell stems.
i have also tried to put 2-3 rooted cuttings into one container and got a lower yield than if i had just grown one right in the same space.
i think root zone restrictions play a part in this too.
i can see an application for a bunch of small plants grouped around a stationary vertical light. where you are not moving the light and want all the plant mass in the sweet spot.
flowered immediately and allowed to root while flowering. 8-10 weeks from cutting to finish.
or the classic sog with horizontal, if i can use the word "horizontal" in this forum.
you still owe me a thread!
Big John
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Looks killer! And by the looks of it you could practically bag it right up without hardly any trimming at all!
That's good info about the multiple plants in one pot. I've done it before in dirt and it worked out ok, but I definitely wasn't smashing any records or anything, perhaps some of what you are talking about was in play. Not a bad way to run a batch of seeds in a tree room though, if you're just searching for keepers
Alien dawg does well in those kiddy pool donuts, and I dig the sound of a SOG, who knows, maybe ppk beds will catch on with the horizontal guys!
i don't wet trim this stuff. i rough de-bud the stems and then to flat screen tv box tops in a room with a de-huey.
48 hours tossing them frequently and then the de-huey is turned off. another day or so, tossing again, and most of the leaves are gone.
then we hand pick them clean and touch them up a little. looks real good in the bag.
cuts time way down over wet trimming.
it sounds more violent than it is. there is a certain point of dryness where the small bud leaves snap off from being handled. lightly.
cactusjack
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Hey D9!
... er, uh, back-peddle, back-peddle... about that 50 oz grow... I hit it once and it was a lot of work, even with the ppk. I don't try as hard anymore. Also, I hate trimming and tend not to trim as carefully as others might since I grow for personal use only. Using other people's metric, I probably overstated yield by maybe 15%. Still, I did considerably better than 1gm/watt which astounded the pants off me. Although I'm probably setting myself up for a visit from your buddy Guido, I have to say I owe it all to your tireless postings on the old ppk thread.
I'm now growing 6 smaller ppks around the 1k in Turface with bottom feed only using shallow 6" deep pans. I'm not going for yield but searching for strains that help with Mrs. Cactus's pain. Three recent hip operations along with numerous injuries from her motocross days in the 70s that are now catching up with her. Yup, a chick motocross suicide pilot. She was a handful in the day.
Man, you're really going to guilt trip me into that thread aren't you? OK, will do. Sometime in the next couple months I promise I'll put together a thread describing a true ppk, as in passive. No moving parts, but top feed with a bottom wick reservoir. Watering frequency driven by the plant.
BTW - You've mentioned in a couple posts that you are contemplating a move to a state straddling The Great Divide. I'm in the other state that has "legalized" recreational use. Although we still lack statutes allowing personal recreational cultivation (don't get me started) I have to say that it is a new world. It's as if the sun came out from behind a cloud. You can't believe the sense of freedom one feels after literally growing in closets all these years. Here's hoping everyone will taste that feeling soon as the rest of the country comes out of the shadow.
... er, uh, back-peddle, back-peddle... about that 50 oz grow... I hit it once and it was a lot of work, even with the ppk. I don't try as hard anymore. Also, I hate trimming and tend not to trim as carefully as others might since I grow for personal use only. Using other people's metric, I probably overstated yield by maybe 15%. Still, I did considerably better than 1gm/watt which astounded the pants off me. Although I'm probably setting myself up for a visit from your buddy Guido, I have to say I owe it all to your tireless postings on the old ppk thread.
I'm now growing 6 smaller ppks around the 1k in Turface with bottom feed only using shallow 6" deep pans. I'm not going for yield but searching for strains that help with Mrs. Cactus's pain. Three recent hip operations along with numerous injuries from her motocross days in the 70s that are now catching up with her. Yup, a chick motocross suicide pilot. She was a handful in the day.
Man, you're really going to guilt trip me into that thread aren't you? OK, will do. Sometime in the next couple months I promise I'll put together a thread describing a true ppk, as in passive. No moving parts, but top feed with a bottom wick reservoir. Watering frequency driven by the plant.
BTW - You've mentioned in a couple posts that you are contemplating a move to a state straddling The Great Divide. I'm in the other state that has "legalized" recreational use. Although we still lack statutes allowing personal recreational cultivation (don't get me started) I have to say that it is a new world. It's as if the sun came out from behind a cloud. You can't believe the sense of freedom one feels after literally growing in closets all these years. Here's hoping everyone will taste that feeling soon as the rest of the country comes out of the shadow.
Hey, I'm sorry to start a sidebar.
I skimmed through this thread, I like the idea of the 8 4 lighting, i have considered it myself, before.
I think I read you stopped using it, but that you will be returning to that schedule.
I read the thread, though as I said, I kinda skimmed, its over 700 posts.
Would you recommend this schedule? Or did it cause problems, i.e. herms? I am concerned about heat build up, since ventilation isn't yet up to par.
My damn T5s put off more heat than the hps, though it is air cooled.
I skimmed through this thread, I like the idea of the 8 4 lighting, i have considered it myself, before.
I think I read you stopped using it, but that you will be returning to that schedule.
I read the thread, though as I said, I kinda skimmed, its over 700 posts.
Would you recommend this schedule? Or did it cause problems, i.e. herms? I am concerned about heat build up, since ventilation isn't yet up to par.
My damn T5s put off more heat than the hps, though it is air cooled.
