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New neighbors Pit Bulls - What would you do?

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soil margin

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how many centuries has man been selectively breeding tigers for domesticity?
oh thats right none..
wow your point is brilliant right up until you read it and then it falls apart...


See you obviously don't know much about the history of canines if you think man has been breeding them for domesticity.

Dogs have been selectively bred for speed, power, size, aggression, and tracking ability. Dogs being tame has only been a concern for the past 100 years since humans moved into urban environments.

And if you think you can selectively breed domesticity into an animal in 100 years or less, you don't know much about biology.

Not trying to be rude, but you simply have no clue what you are talking about.
 
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i like the "dominance" idea... instead of hitting the dog, which ain't right, id recommend pissing in his face while his head is stuck in the fence, that should teach him a lesson...

best still, reinforce the fence if possible, easiest way without having to deal with the neighbours?

blessss
ps.: some fuqed up shit, ...
Best advice i've read in this thread, know what a dog feels after being covered in urine? Total and complete submissive shame, not only did you assert yourself over the animal, you marked that animal as yours, and he knows it better than any of the apathetic owners whose faces he'll be licking later.
See you obviously don't know much about the history of canines if you think man has been breeding them for domesticity.

Dogs have been selectively bred for speed, power, size, aggression, and tracking ability. Dogs being tame has only been a concern for the past 100 years since humans moved into urban environments.

And if you think you can selectively breed domesticity into an animal in 100 years or less, you don't know much about biology.

Not trying to be rude, but you simply have no clue what you are talking about.
Dogs, cats, and other domesticated animals are mostly just responding to our manipulations of their social structures, animals that live in packs and herds (especially mammals) are pre-disposed towards sharing companionship with other living things, as long as they're not trying to eat them, regardless of species. Animals are "domesticated" simply because they spend so much time around us, deprived of natural animal sociability.
 

joe guy

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Lions are pack animals, so are hyenas. Can you breed domesticity into them?
The above picture looks like a pretty chill lion to me so to answer that question yes I do believe they can be lol
 

dagnabit

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See you obviously don't know much about the history of canines if you think man has been breeding them for domesticity.

Dogs have been selectively bred for speed, power, size, aggression, and tracking ability. Dogs being tame has only been a concern for the past 100 years since humans moved into urban environments.

And if you think you can selectively breed domesticity into an animal in 100 years or less, you don't know much about biology.

Not trying to be rude, but you simply have no clue what you are talking about.

where do people get this stuff?

the first "toy" breeds originated 12,000 years ago in the middle east. these animals had no power,speed,size,aggression or tracking ability.
they were bred specifically to be companion animals for royalty.

the Pekingese has been bred for emperors of china for over 2000 years.
not trying to be rude but you are completely talking out of your ass...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekingese


LOL
{puts on best action movie voice over voice}

BRED FOR SIZE,SPEED,POWER,AGGRESSION AND THE ABILITY TO TRACK AND KILL!
COMING THIS SUMMER
THE PEKINGESE!!!
OFF THE LAP AND READY TO KILL!
220px-Old_Long-haired_Sable_Pek.jpg
 

joe guy

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I live the stfu effect fact and pix have lol good point above what other possible job would a lil dog have beside companion/ alarm for the big dogs? I know my rot and pit are deaf as a door knob compaired to my cha-weiner , she alerts. My big girls to even squirrels walking along the fence lol and is a 15 to 18 ft tall every dog has a porpous may it be alarm or inforcment to due laws in said yard ... Mine are not allowed in the house except for feed time the rot goes inside cause I've had expensive vet bills for the two fighting over food other that that DOGs have their job and are payed for heir service with love affection and feed my job is to supply said ingredients to keep them working "ain't shit free in this life" I work so do they
 

Wendull C.

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Man has been domesticating the wolf for thousands of years, and yes the animals were bred for certain purposes such as the elite in egypt training sight hounds to catch animals other dogs couldn't catch. Those dogs now are the basis for all sight hounds such as the Saluki and grey hound.
Domesticity had to be bred into these animals long before humans were able to train them.
The early years of dog and man were just a symbiotic relationship between two predators that learned to help one and other, or more likely man learned to use his new friend to help hunt and a lasting relationship was formed. IMHO
 

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Here's my take on neighborly pets from both sides of the fence.

I own only dogs and always keep my eyes on them, if my springer spaniel Alice wanders past the tree line and over towards the neighbors yard I call her back, truth is I own well beyond tree line & she never goes to their home, 95% of the time she's on my land but I like to keep her closer. my little pitbull Scooby takes care of business and comes to stay by my side, she is 100% devoted to me and never strays beyond our homes perimeter.

my neighbor has a cute little long haired dachshund and a lab mix, both male, sometimes they wander down here but mostly when we're inside. At worst they wiz on my tires, no big deal, never see any stray turds. Both dogs are friendly & sometimes Alice will go visit them if they come onto my driveway while we're outside, Scooby remains vigilant & near me, she visits nicely if the dogs come down to us.


I guess I'm lucky to have nice neighbors w/friendly dogs because we have no fences out here, not even inside city limits do we see much privacy or stockade type fencing, folks up here seem to prefer split rail which doesn't stop anything from crossing the line.


Again, I prefer not to hurt any animals (aside from my food) but a truly vicious dog presenting a danger to me, my dogs, loved ones etc needs to be dealt with one way or another.

Don't wanna hurt the dogs??? then as ugly as it might be you could screw a board to that fence running parallel to the ground but right about where the dogs would be bouncing off of it.
 

dagnabit

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Dogs being tame has only been a concern for the past 100 years since humans moved into urban environments.
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
100 years in urban environments?

i had to point this particular nugget out for it's own incredulity!!!
you cant be serious? are you trolling?
 

soil margin

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:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
100 years in urban environments?

i had to point this particular nugget out for it's own incredulity!!!
you cant be serious? are you trolling?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization

"The rapid urbanization of the world’s population over the twentieth century is described in the 2005 Revision of the UN World Urbanization Prospects report. The global proportion of urban population rose dramatically from 13% (220 million) in 1900, to 29% (732 million) in 1950, to 49% (3.2 billion) in 2005. The same report projected that the figure is likely to rise to 60% (4.9 billion) by 2030.[4]"

Yes, the huge majority of the human population has lived outside of urban environments up until the start of the 20th century. And no, before you try and claim it, small towns with under 1,000 people do not count as urban environments.

When you live miles from the nearest person, there is no need to worry about your dog being aggressive or biting your neighbors kid.
 

dagnabit

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization

"The rapid urbanization of the world’s population over the twentieth century is described in the 2005 Revision of the UN World Urbanization Prospects report. The global proportion of urban population rose dramatically from 13% (220 million) in 1900, to 29% (732 million) in 1950, to 49% (3.2 billion) in 2005. The same report projected that the figure is likely to rise to 60% (4.9 billion) by 2030.[4]"

Yes, the huge majority of the human population has lived outside of urban environments up until the start of the 20th century. And no, before you try and claim it, small towns with under 1,000 people do not count as urban environments.

When you live miles from the nearest person, there is no need to worry about your dog being aggressive or biting your neighbors kid.
no dogs in rome,paris,london,egypt,ect ect ect...
humans have been domesticating dogs and living in urban environments for thousands of years...
 
See you obviously don't know much about the history of canines if you think man has been breeding them for domesticity.

Dogs have been selectively bred for speed, power, size, aggression, and tracking ability. Dogs being tame has only been a concern for the past 100 years since humans moved into urban environments.

And if you think you can selectively breed domesticity into an animal in 100 years or less, you don't know much about biology.

Not trying to be rude, but you simply have no clue what you are talking about.

you should read up on the russian fox domestication expierement.
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...tten-russian-experiment-in-fox-domestication/
they found that basically the physical characteristics were pretty closley related to breeding aggressiveness out of dogs, and resulted in all sorts of strange genetic differences in the dogs physical characteristics, leading us to the many breeds now.
wolves originally evolved to be less aggressive. the more timid, less scary wolves would usually get the scraps from some human hunter gatherers. the scary wolves would have been killed.

sorry for being :ying:spaced:ying: on this thread
 
Lions are pack animals, so are hyenas. Can you breed domesticity into them?

yes, see my previous post about the russian fox research, the same applies to most likely all pack mammals.

lions are closley related to dogs, thus a common ancestor, thus the same can apply, most likely.
idunno wuddafuk a hyena comes from:dance013:
 

GET MO

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First off, I had to laugh cuz your name is baddog and your dealin with bad dogs.

Anyway, I had the exact same thing happen to me. I didn't have time to post on IC about it though, soon as the dogs broke one board I went and hollered at the owner. Respectful but firm, look man, I got kids that be in my yard and I don't take no chances with my kids, your dogs breakin through the fence. I almost shot him but my family wasn't in no real danger at the time so I figured I come let you know so you could do something about it. Dude asked me what I suggest, I told him get some plywood and nail it up along the fence. I had like 2 pieces in my backyard I wasn't using so I used them on my side in the most dangerous spots. Dude didn't have any transportation so I offered to take him to home depot in my truck to get 4 more pieces, he nailed um up and the problem was solved.

Sometimes you gotta communicate man, 95% of altercations are from lack of communication.

I got a pitbull, its one of the nicest dogs I ever owned, big scary lookin thing but the nicest dog you'd ever meet.

If you really don't want to TALK to your neibors Id suggest going and getting some plywood (its pretty cheap) and lining your fence with it yourself. Don't let pride get in the way of your familys safety.
 

Garhart

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Live in a place that does not allow dogs at all. New neighbor moved in with Chihuahuas. Trying to pass them off as hairless cats. Takes all kinds I guess.

No need for life to be so damned nasty. Sure do hope all turns out well for the OP.
 
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