Great posts! but all science aside, i figure it's just easy enough to keep it in a dark place like a cupboard, so might as well 
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Yayyy! My first colloidal silver generator (photo)
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yes Marco, the condition as a result of drinking too much colloidal silver is called argyria ... it's not the best look!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_uses_of_silver#Adverse_effects
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria
And here's Papa Smurf, probably the most famous person with the condition (just search images.google.com for argyria and every second photo is of him!)
Seems it has affected the color of his hair also, not just skin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_uses_of_silver#Adverse_effects
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria
And here's Papa Smurf, probably the most famous person with the condition (just search images.google.com for argyria and every second photo is of him!)
Seems it has affected the color of his hair also, not just skin
I seen a video of a guy who drank that stuff for medical reasons and it made him look like papa smurf.
Weird stuff! It's a pathology called Argyria
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/nn303449n
What happens with UV radiation can happen in our CS too. They re-convert silver ions and thus make the CS darker, even if it's pure and initially crystal clear.
This should be the theory, do you guys agree?
ps: sorry phenomenal, I didn't see your post before writing mine
TYPE FASTER.
*grin*
ps. it seems Papa Smurf is actually proud of his look *scratches head*
i'd be too embarrassed to leave the house, let alone do TV interviews...And smoke less...btw
ps. it seems Papa Smurf is actually proud of his look *scratches head*
I think I wouldn't give a fuck about being weird, but hey, are we intended to be blue? Maybe some of us yes. I think is somewhat related with ''social darwinism''. In an evolutionist view this kind of events are interesting for the whole human race, to understand that maybe it's not the best option to drink CS day after day....
Sorry for the OT
CS in transparent PET bottles stored on open shelf for about two years.
On sunny days, in addition to regular daylight, they get short session of direct sunlight.
Sticker on the bottle with the recorded values ppm –
2012 05 06 - 50
2012 10 31 - 51.
Today I will add the entry –
2013 07 27 - 50.
On sunny days, in addition to regular daylight, they get short session of direct sunlight.
Sticker on the bottle with the recorded values ppm –
2012 05 06 - 50
2012 10 31 - 51.
Today I will add the entry –
2013 07 27 - 50.
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Muah12
Member
I'm wondering after all this how do you guys feel breeding with these forced ladies. Do you feel that pollen is pollen and its no different then a natural males pollen. In that it has the ability to produce a "keeper" obviously it would be different in that ones pollen wld be feminized. Do you feel the process only necessary to save a clone only?
From the outside with having done no work at all with reversing I would like to think that a suitable males pollen would have to make a healthier batch of potential keeper then reversing. Maybe I. Old fashioned but I've never smoked this new super silver lmfao!
I'm sure this has been covered before bear with me it was a long read lmao.
From the outside with having done no work at all with reversing I would like to think that a suitable males pollen would have to make a healthier batch of potential keeper then reversing. Maybe I. Old fashioned but I've never smoked this new super silver lmfao!
I'm sure this has been covered before bear with me it was a long read lmao.
I never get into the topic before but I think your question is a good one. For what I can say your address is right.
I think the basics to understand it are the alleles and I make it simple: if you cross two identical dna, a lot of alleles (genes for a specific character) will be homozygote.
This sounds great to keep a nice copy of the mom through seeds offspring, however that same dna lose the hybrid vigor (where alleles are heterozygous) and thus on a large batch of seeds you will notice it, especially in adverse environmental conditions like outdoors.
This homozygous tendency means that if a gene that codify a character is recessive (weak) it will be shown phenotipically however as in the genes there isn't a dominant (strong) gene.
It's something like the dna making a choice: when it has more than one thing to choose from, it choose the stroger. When it has only one to choose from...it has what it has, that's hybrid vigor.
Once again, this means you can stabilize a lot of characters and finally have a very similar offspring, and if the dna is a ''strong'' one, a female offspring will be healthy and strong too.
However I found great plants out of female seeds while finding some shitty plants out of regular seeds. A lot of things are involved and the starting DNA is the most important.
A good dna can bring good regular and female seeds. A shitty dna can difficult bring to a good regular or female seeds.
Finally, if I have to make a selection work....female seeds are out of the game.
That's my opinion...but I don't think it's so far from the real.
ps: things are different if we're talking about S1 female seeds or F1 female seeds. If you cross two different female dna, I think you can still have hybrid vigor for a lot of characters, where in the S1 you can't.
Gotta update this thread that help me so much making my own female seeds.
I stop sprayed CS on the reverse clones when they started to dry the first male flowers. At now there is no signs of turn-back to female. Great.
Pollination went just perfect and now I can see a lot of healthy (obviously apparently) seeds forming.
I just ensure every day, or every two days, to break dried male flowers with the fingers to let the pollen fall on the pistils all over the grow-tent. I made it very simple but I think (as Jump suggested me) that breaking the flowers is necessary to have a good pollination. Regular males open their flowers, reversed females don't do it.
And finally... when do you stop pollinating your targets? I think to keep pollinating them till I see a good % of white pistils.
Now some pictures of the ChocoTonic S1 project:
A seeded bud
Reversed clone
Is that pollen or glandular trichomes?
And some seeds
All the pictures can be found HERE
Green vibs dudes!
I stop sprayed CS on the reverse clones when they started to dry the first male flowers. At now there is no signs of turn-back to female. Great.
Pollination went just perfect and now I can see a lot of healthy (obviously apparently) seeds forming.
I just ensure every day, or every two days, to break dried male flowers with the fingers to let the pollen fall on the pistils all over the grow-tent. I made it very simple but I think (as Jump suggested me) that breaking the flowers is necessary to have a good pollination. Regular males open their flowers, reversed females don't do it.
And finally... when do you stop pollinating your targets? I think to keep pollinating them till I see a good % of white pistils.
Now some pictures of the ChocoTonic S1 project:
A seeded bud
Reversed clone
Is that pollen or glandular trichomes?
And some seeds
All the pictures can be found HERE
Green vibs dudes!
Femora
Member
FYI;
I got this to work with 1 week 9 ppm, 10 days 16 ppm.
Sprayed morning and evening on a AF about from day 6-7 or so, after flowering started to show. It got some hairy buds before it reverted and totally transformed in just 3-4 days.
Im now waiting for them to drop pollen, so I can get some fem. AF !
That's all, folks.
I got this to work with 1 week 9 ppm, 10 days 16 ppm.
Sprayed morning and evening on a AF about from day 6-7 or so, after flowering started to show. It got some hairy buds before it reverted and totally transformed in just 3-4 days.
Im now waiting for them to drop pollen, so I can get some fem. AF !
That's all, folks.
rangergord
Active member
Whew! Read all 97 zillion pages. I will be trying out the technique soon. I have a colloidal silver generator with 9999 wires. Although coins will work, for a number of reasons I think wires are better. I also collect and stack the silver coins and coin people would be horrified to know you are cutting and destroying your coins by electrolysis! Those who collect silver coins today are certain that despite the low price of silver today, it may one day be worth more than gold. Google it if you dare!
There are many great resources online about making colloidal silver such as silvermedicine.org Seems like most of you still need an education in the fundamentals of colloidal silver, as already pointed out by a couple people here. The ignorance is astounding. Current limiting circuitry is often a part of good colloidal silver generators. Bigger is not always better. I am skeptical that high concentrations of colloidal silver are needed. Plan to start with 10-15ppm. I use 5ppm for internal use. Yes, I drink it. No, I am not worried about turning blue. The smurf man ingested silver compounds not colloidal silver. He is FDA evidence to support their campaign of terror against it.
Royalty (bluebloods) ate so much from silverware it turned them blue too and you don't see them complaining! I have also eaten pure silver foil covered candy called barfi (east indian) It is consumed freely by millions without any problems.
Despite my criticisms, I liked the thread and thank you for it. There is a distinct pattern of trial and error, learning and progress. Thanks for opening up the subject and spreading it far and wide!
There are many great resources online about making colloidal silver such as silvermedicine.org Seems like most of you still need an education in the fundamentals of colloidal silver, as already pointed out by a couple people here. The ignorance is astounding. Current limiting circuitry is often a part of good colloidal silver generators. Bigger is not always better. I am skeptical that high concentrations of colloidal silver are needed. Plan to start with 10-15ppm. I use 5ppm for internal use. Yes, I drink it. No, I am not worried about turning blue. The smurf man ingested silver compounds not colloidal silver. He is FDA evidence to support their campaign of terror against it.
Royalty (bluebloods) ate so much from silverware it turned them blue too and you don't see them complaining! I have also eaten pure silver foil covered candy called barfi (east indian) It is consumed freely by millions without any problems.
Despite my criticisms, I liked the thread and thank you for it. There is a distinct pattern of trial and error, learning and progress. Thanks for opening up the subject and spreading it far and wide!
... it's taken many years for all those contributions from hundreds of awesome and daring icmaggers to make the thread what it is (i started this thread in 2007), so it may actually be beneficial to read it backwards lol ... but maybe you should TRY the technique before adding your criticisms of it ... The pattern of trial and error, and learning and progress, i guess is probably because most posters in this thread aren't bioscientists in this area ... (i'm not - i'm a software engineer for example!) ... although having said that there have been some excellent scientific posts in this thread, uni papers even ... but for most of us, as just regular growers, through trial and error and posting our results both good and bad we're gradually refining this form of feminisation ...
A form of feminisation that is 1) very affordable, 2) very easy to make yourself at home, 3) safe and non-toxic and doesnt require any special permits or anything, and 4) i guess most importantly, proven effective, as you can see by the many photos of reverse plants + resulting seeds scattered throughout this thread ... all thanks to the HUNDREDS of contributors who've given it a go and shared what they've learned from their experiences back here, and we'll KEEP on learning always ... there's still a long way to go in regards to perfecting this awesome tool of ours
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... but maybe you should TRY the technique before adding your criticisms of it ...
The pattern of trial and error, and learning and progress, i guess is probably because most posters in this thread aren't bioscientists in this area ... (i'm not - i'm a software engineer for example!) ... although having said that there have been some excellent scientific posts in this thread, uni papers even ... but for most of us, as just regular growers, through trial and error and posting our results both good and bad we're gradually refining this form of feminisation ...
A form of feminisation that is 1) very affordable, 2) very easy to make yourself at home, 3) safe and non-toxic and doesnt require any special permits or anything, and 4) i guess most importantly, proven effective, as you can see by the many photos of reverse plants + resulting seeds scattered throughout this thread ... all thanks to the HUNDREDS of contributors who've given it a go and shared what they've learned from their experiences back here, and we'll KEEP on learning always ... there's still a long way to go in regards to perfecting this awesome tool of ours
I can't not quote your words Pheno! I totally agree.....and maybe we all should take a moment to think about the free knowledge learned in this thread as in a lot of others. Not so many years ago all of this wouldn't be possible, now it is, and it's free!
In the story of our world the knowledge has been protected with many lives, just think at the scribes and their life spent only to write down all the knowledge possible to keep it for us.
Just think some centuries ago, studying was a really luxury.
Now we have most of the humanity knowledge for free and relatively easy to find. We can't miss this opportunity!
And here I can see analogies as between a farmer and a scientist. Maybe both study the same thing but in different way, with a different approach, often with a very similar result. It's a kind of difference between practice and theory, and no one it's the wrong way or the right one. Both studying and practice have their own peculiarities.
One more thanks to all of those that keep sharing their knowledge, on this thread and in their life!
rangergord
Active member
The pattern of trial and error, and learning and progress, i guess is probably because most posters in this thread aren't bioscientists in this area ... (i'm not - i'm a software engineer for example!) ... although having said that there have been some excellent scientific posts in this thread, uni papers even ... but for most of us, as just regular growers, through trial and error and posting our results both good and bad we're gradually refining this form of feminisation ...
A form of feminisation that is 1) very affordable, 2) very easy to make yourself at home, 3) safe and non-toxic and doesnt require any special permits or anything, and 4) i guess most importantly, proven effective, as you can see by the many photos of reverse plants + resulting seeds scattered throughout this thread ... all thanks to the HUNDREDS of contributors who've given it a go and shared what they've learned from their experiences back here, and we'll KEEP on learning always ... there's still a long way to go in regards to perfecting this awesome tool of ours
Hey Phenomenal, I must reiterate I did find much of value in the thread. My Skepticism is about the super concentrated CS being required and I certainly will put that to the test. People such as jump showed excellent understanding of CS and my suggestion is is if you want to learn how to produce and use CS go to a CS webforum then you will be better prepared to modify the technique. Its no wonder people think the black swill being producedas CS is poison.
*frown* who??? pure water + electricity + pure silver ... yep, gonna get poison out of that ... *scratches head* eheh -- better luck producing gold maybe
I can't recall if the 'poison' thing has ever been suggested in this thread but if it ever was it would've been shot down, fast. (maybe you're confusing it with jump's post regarding the corrosive but non-related-to-CS compound Silver Nitrate?)
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EducatedHippy
New member
Thanks for this thread Pheno
Harvested my first fem beans ( All Autos / Already got 3 little seedlings in peat pellets
Short Stuff Seeds Snowryder is what i used the c.s on and Freedom Of Seeds Jack Auto is what i hit with the fem pollen from the Snowryder
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My First Self Made Fem Auto Seedlings ( Auto Jack x Snowryder )
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And here's Papa Smurf, probably the most famous person with the condition (just search images.google.com for argyria and every second photo is of him!)
Seems it has affected the color of his hair also, not just skin
R.I.P.
http://www.today.com/health/real-life-blue-man-dies-after-heart-attack-stroke-4B11243410
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Cannaloupe
New member
Will this universal ac/dc 1200ma adaptor work?
TIA, Cannaloupe
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hosa-Techno...bles_Snakes_Interconnects&hash=item53fcebbe5a
TIA, Cannaloupe
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hosa-Techno...bles_Snakes_Interconnects&hash=item53fcebbe5a
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