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big plant ppk

high life 45

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HL.....I`m ALWAYS yo buddy , but everything you`re screamin goes against EVERYTHING I ever got to a dialed position for the best possible finished product ......and hey....

Got nuttin but love fer yas HL.....Just keep it real and let ALL learn from it for the benefit of the community , cuz I know EVERYONE would loveta grow big plants with babyshit wattage.....

Peace....Freds.......:ying:......


Right back at ya freds,

Im only talking veg, my plants are growing really fast, and I agree that it defies the norm, Hence why I chimed in here.

I am crankin on all lights by the time flip rolls around, im not flowering in those lighting conditions.
 
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DaveTheNewbie

All other fast hydro setups have potential imminent crop death potentials as to where the PPK`s don`t.....except for Dave......and it took a lil bit for his plant to croak.....now.....

woot im not just famous as a blackthumb locally anymore, im now famous world wide !
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
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you guys are hilarious! i just read the last 2 pages and can't find a real argument here anywhere.

fred got great results with his lighting in flower and hl is getting great results with his lighting in veg.

it's all good.
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
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justin bieber's monkey was just detained in Germany for illegal entry.

when asked if the poor animal would be punished the German authorities replied, "no, we don't intend to spank bieber's monkey."
 

forkup

Member
I don't know how much the undercurrents run, but I know if ya added the money I've spent at home depot and lowes you'd be most of the way to a car. I got this problem where I'm always thinking up a different idea a month after I got the last one installed. And it's just right there down the road, open late, everything you need for a project! It can be a dicey situation for a diy addict

Thank god for the no questions asked return policy. :biggrin:

Ain't that the damn truth. I enjoy plumbing...inserting tab A into slot B but hell fire why do they have to have 10 different types of piping for any little job. Assembling the parts is fun, hunting all them SOBs down in the store is a major PITA!

My ppk system build saga continues, after a lot of thinking and reading thru problems with the carlon fittings leaking around the main supply and return lines I decided to use regular cpvc 1/2" adapters because they have a true pipe thread. The taper provides an interference type fit that is not prone to leaks whereas the carlon straight fitting with no taper depends on bottoming out against the shoulder or o-ring if you use them. I've installed the cpvc adapters without any glue but I did use teflon tape. I glued in a short stub of pipe to clamp the water hose to. The pipe is 5/8th" OD, perfect for the water lines to attach to.

Also when threading the pvc supply and return lines you can stop threading when you have 2 whole threads showing above the tapped hole. By not running the tap down all the way the threaded hole is smaller than if threaded all the way down. This allows a tighter fit when you install the fitting.

I can't guarantee this method is better than D9s but it makes more horse sense to me seeing as people are getting leaks.

Cheers!
 

high life 45

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Ain't that the damn truth. I enjoy plumbing...inserting tab A into slot B but hell fire why do they have to have 10 different types of piping for any little job. Assembling the parts is fun, hunting all them SOBs down in the store is a major PITA!

My ppk system build saga continues, after a lot of thinking and reading thru problems with the carlon fittings leaking around the main supply and return lines I decided to use regular cpvc 1/2" adapters because they have a true pipe thread. The taper provides an interference type fit that is not prone to leaks whereas the carlon straight fitting with no taper depends on bottoming out against the shoulder or o-ring if you use them. I've installed the cpvc adapters without any glue but I did use teflon tape. I glued in a short stub of pipe to clamp the water hose to. The pipe is 5/8th" OD, perfect for the water lines to attach to.

Also when threading the pvc supply and return lines you can stop threading when you have 2 whole threads showing above the tapped hole. By not running the tap down all the way the threaded hole is smaller than if threaded all the way down. This allows a tighter fit when you install the fitting.

I can't guarantee this method is better than D9s but it makes more horse sense to me seeing as people are getting leaks.

Cheers!

forkup can we get a pic?:biggrin:
 
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DHF

Right back at ya freds,

Im only talking veg, my plants are growing really fast, and I agree that it defies the norm, Hence why I chimed in here.

I am crankin on all lights by the time flip rolls around, im not flowering in those lighting conditions.
At least now I`m feelin better bout NOT bein cookychooby concerning budset and late flower trichome production and nug density by end of cycle with adequate light......and I gotta say I was iimpressed with thrillspan`s LED run.......but....

Point blank......I`m only here to help folks and not stir up controversy , but it seems to chase me since I`ve never posted pics , so guys......think about it....

Regardless of the attitudes of certain members here that I`m a fraud and only regurgitate info I learned online I assure all here that yas can believe whatchas will , but .....

Karma`s been my driving force in being on the public forums since all the old heads went behind closed doors yrs ago at the private places cuz they were sick to DEATH of bein fucked with bout their leaps and bounds in quality and production once they learned the rules and dialed their shit........that said......

I`m Dedhedfred and don`t haveta be here , but I choose to be so the young'uns can learn FACTS not fiction , and if that pisses off some young turk self-proclaimed know-it-alls with blinders on then talk to the hand.....and...

I`m not goin anywhere , so if you don`t like what I post put my old ass on ignore and you ain`t gotta read what I spew and it`s THAT simple.....babyshit.....anyways.....

My beach shack got an unexpected cancellation for next week and GFs packin the SUV as we speak , so its beers , bongs ,and baaahbeequeee with all the fixins come Thursday.....and....

Gonna be putting out the crab traps and go flounder giggin tomorrow night for some flatfish with redfish and speckled trout to throw in the mix by the 4th........

Gotta go buy the shrimp and oysters , but the boston butts and beef tenderloins for the smoker came from Fredville courtesy of MY shit , so ya`ll come.......

D9.......Gonna have you and HL , Disciple , Mr D and a few others that have the balls to navigate public weedsites while trying to help folks come visit some of these days for a big ass throwdown , so thanks for all ya`ll do , and I`m bout ta load up and go watch the dawg bite waves rollin in and chase sandpipers on the beach for free entertainment.....

Peace.....Freds.....:ying:......
 

DamnUglyDogE

Learning the rules well,so as to break them effect
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Yo, DHF..

Spot on attitude and as always, Good Vibe's....

Work that Q man... Ummm Q.....

Have ya ever though O Breeding a line ?

Given Retirement, means more time and you sure as hell,
Got to have connections to the best O the best (Due ta Vibe's)

If ya wanted/asked... I have ta think you could gather some increadible strains in bean form...

Once Your state gets with the program and goes either Medical or Recreational.

You could really begin to make a difference and not being in it for the money you could take your time...
High CBD strains...
40 Day pure Sativas... :woohoo:
IDK... With You... Maybe... Single 3'x6' Cola,2LB strain( with no Fan leaf ) ... :biggrin:

No need for LBS all around or high #'s

I could so see ya doing Bonsai Trees... lol

Just a thought...

You could just move the family to California.. You would fit RIGHT in,bro...


Anyways... :ying:
 

high life 45

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Like the man said...

Like the man said...





I had zero root growth into the bottom bucket, was suprised to see pumice at the bottom of the tailpiece.
 
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DHF

Yo, DHF..

Spot on attitude and as always, Good Vibe's....

Work that Q man... Ummm Q.....

Have ya ever though O Breeding a line ?

Given Retirement, means more time and you sure as hell,
Got to have connections to the best O the best (Due ta Vibe's)

If ya wanted/asked... I have ta think you could gather some increadible strains in bean form...

Once Your state gets with the program and goes either Medical or Recreational.

You could really begin to make a difference and not being in it for the money you could take your time...
High CBD strains...
40 Day pure Sativas... :woohoo:
IDK... With You... Maybe... Single 3'x6' Cola,2LB strain( with no Fan leaf ) ... :biggrin:

No need for LBS all around or high #'s

I could so see ya doing Bonsai Trees... lol

Just a thought...

You could just move the family to California.. You would fit RIGHT in,bro...


Anyways... :ying:
Ya know AD....I`ve got some beans up my sleeve from several giftings in the last few yrs when my closest Bro`s knew I hadta shut down cuz they also knew at some point in the game I`d set a headies room up for arthritis and insomnia maintenance......but.....

I`ve only made beans "accidently" once when a weird ass Purplewreck hermied and pollinated itself , so I`m not sure I`ll ever have patience to breed pot plants cuz ya`ll boys in medville are sooo better equipped to do so , although BOG pioneered "Rocky Mtn High" while still bein in a non-med legal state , so.....

Anything`s possible but.....Since I shut down , it`s hard to get motivated ta grow dope again when I get regular care packages 4-5 times a yr from my clone factory growbro`s cuz I hooked em up on perpetual schedules many many yrs ago....regardless.....

Just told HL in pm I was goin fishin to gather shit up for Thursday`s cookout , so ya`ll come....

I`m outie and.....

Peace....Freds......:ying:.....
 

Big John

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Have fun at the beach DHF :)


Dude you and d9 are killing me with the ridiculous ppk root mats. Awesome work!

I wonder what would happen if you coated the inside of a ppk with some of that copper paint, spin-out or the like? Would you perhaps lose root mass?
 

catman

half cat half man half baked
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I did that Big_John. I believe I got plenty of roots, but more so because I defoliated a lot. Removing leaf mass in clones produces more roots and I believe the same is true of any stage of growth. These roots were grown in desert humidity..or lack there of as well. I didn't get amazing results. I believe what D9 and HL45 have proved is that large amounts of roots are not needed. The amount of root mass they have in contrast to their huge plants isn't that much from what I've observed. I'm still curious how big of a plant this root mass could have supported if it would have had way more space and lighting.

I think I'm done growing and medicating. I just want to say that the PPK was something I really enjoyed being a part of and best wishes to those who continue to refine it.

 

DamnUglyDogE

Learning the rules well,so as to break them effect
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I think I'm done growing and medicating. I just want to say that the PPK was something I really enjoyed being a part of and best wishes to those who continue to refine it.

Hope ta still see ya around from time ta time Catman..

Ive enjoyed your post,thoughts and feedback's given while you did ya thing here...

Thanks for taking the time to share and Wishing you and yours
The best of all life has to offer....:ying:

:alien::respect::alien:...
 

forkup

Member
The key to a tight fit with the adapters is to leave a few threads on the tap when you thread the hole. Since the thread is tapered the hole gets bigger the further you thread the tap in. The fit is much looser if you thread the tap all the way down so I leave 2-3 threads above the surface of the pipe.
 

420ish

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i am building my first ppk.i am using the three gallon roughneck totes.i am wondering on how much volume of the pump i need for the smaller container.each of my systems will have 4 plants.for less then half the volume of turface that d9's system runs,do i only need 120gph per plant?if i am running a central res,should i use 1 big pump for all three systems?does anyone have any input on the titan controls timers for the pump?optimal res size for 3 four plant systems?
the cabs will be 4 x4x6 feet with individual 6 inch vortex fans and filters.there will be either 2 600's or 1 600 and 1 400 per cab stacked.any and all help is appreciated.
 
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