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F45 v3.0 "Ricky's Dope Farm"

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
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Cords are actually 8' from the power source. You can see in the picture how they piggyback into each other. All the electrical specs should be visible also.
Can't wait to try them out on my Chem Sis on Wednesday!
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Edit: I bought mine from The Hydro Source. They don't sell the trimmers separately, but it was only $200 more for the duo package. Free shipping as well. $250 is a little steep for the power pack, but the case is definitely handy.
 

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
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My Jack's order arrived today. 25# of the Pro and Cal Nit. I thought I ordered a 5# bag of their PK booster; will check my order receipt.
My only question on application that I haven't seen yet, was making a concentrated solution of both at the proper ratios. What I would like to do is mix up a 5gallon bottle of the mix, and add that to the rez until I hit my desired EC.
Anyone have experience doing it that way, or do they need to be added separately?
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bobblehead

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My Jack's order arrived today. 25# of the Pro and Cal Nit. I thought I ordered a 5# bag of their PK booster; will check my order receipt.
My only question on application that I haven't seen yet, was making a concentrated solution of both at the proper ratios. What I would like to do is mix up a 5gallon bottle of the mix, and add that to the rez until I hit my desired EC.
Anyone have experience doing it that way, or do they need to be added separately?
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You MUST keep them separate, otherwise insoluble precipitates will form, particularly CaCO3. I say add cal/nit first and let it dilute... And then the base. D9 does it the other way around. I'll be applying them both separately in my new system, so I know that insoluble precipitates are kept to a minimum. The precipitates don't need to be visible to be there.
 

wisco61

Member
You would have to make a part A and part B concentrate. If you combine them there is some reaction and things will precipitate out making it go cloudy.

Make up the stock solutions with the 3:2 jacks:calc nit ratio and you will be adding them in equal amounts and thus running out at the same time. Maybe start with 5 gal buckets filled with 4 gallons of RO/distilled water. Add 600 grams of Jacks to one and 400 grams of CalcNit to the other. That would be a pretty weak concentrate, but you could bump it up after some trial and error. Just keep the 3:2 ratio if you want the buckets to run out at around the same time.

The Jacks is a lot harder to dissolve in a stock solution than that calc nit. Heating up the water will help or just run a water pump for a few hours and it will eventually dissolve. The calc nit is much easier.
 

bobblehead

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Cords are actually 8' from the power source. You can see in the picture how they piggyback into each other. All the electrical specs should be visible also.
Can't wait to try them out on my Chem Sis on Wednesday!
View attachment 223439
Edit: I bought mine from The Hydro Source. They don't sell the trimmers separately, but it was only $200 more for the duo package. Free shipping as well. $250 is a little steep for the power pack, but the case is definitely handy.

I bought my hero from bonsaihero.com, and they came straight from Holland. $360 shipped + $20 for a power supply from China.
 

Species8472

Member
Alternatively, I am thinking to run 2" PVC from the fogger into the top of the room, running along the ceiling, all the way to the back of the room, with holes drilled to evenly disperse the fog. With my circulation fans, it should work. I imagine the fog is heavier than dry air, so it should drop down onto the plants.
20% RH will really hamper my yield I imagine.

I was thinking about the same thing since my first use of a fogger during my last veg. I am still thinking about dispersing the fog at plant height, because I'm afraid that my scrubber would suck away all that good fog a.s.a.p..
 

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
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I bought my hero from bonsaihero.com, and they came straight from Holland. $360 shipped + $20 for a power supply from China.

The edit was intended for your thread for BST lol, damn phone.
So it would ~740 for two and a power pack. I think the final price tag with sales tax (since the company retailing it is in CA), was $745. So looks like a wash :)
 

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
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I was thinking about the same thing since my first use of a fogger during my last veg. I am still thinking about dispersing the fog at plant height, because I'm afraid that my scrubber would suck away all that good fog a.s.a.p..

Good point. Maybe a PVC manifold around the perimeter of the room at 36" from the floor...
 

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
Veteran
You would have to make a part A and part B concentrate. If you combine them there is some reaction and things will precipitate out making it go cloudy.

Make up the stock solutions with the 3:2 jacks:calc nit ratio and you will be adding them in equal amounts and thus running out at the same time. Maybe start with 5 gal buckets filled with 4 gallons of RO/distilled water. Add 600 grams of Jacks to one and 400 grams of CalcNit to the other. That would be a pretty weak concentrate, but you could bump it up after some trial and error. Just keep the 3:2 ratio if you want the buckets to run out at around the same time.

The Jacks is a lot harder to dissolve in a stock solution than that calc nit. Heating up the water will help or just run a water pump for a few hours and it will eventually dissolve. The calc nit is much easier.

Thanks for that!
 

TheArchitect

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Basically, I add the maximum soluable amount of both parts into individual 5 gallon buckets of ro water.

Add a drop of physan or 1ppm of sodium benzoate, and you have your stock tanks.

Then just mix the base to 36ppm and calnit to 24ppm at .5 conversion. 360ppm base 240ppm calnit is 600ppm or 1.2ec.

I think you'll find a product like jh biotech's biomin calcium helpful should you run into issues.
 

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
Veteran
Basically, I add the maximum soluable amount of both parts into individual 5 gallon buckets of ro water.

Add a drop of physan or 1ppm of sodium benzoate, and you have your stock tanks.

Then just mix the base to 36ppm and calnit to 24ppm at .5 conversion. 360ppm base 240ppm calnit is 600ppm or 1.2ec.

I think you'll find a product like jh biotech's biomin calcium helpful should you run into issues.

Thanks TA!
I read somewhere else about someone adding 1ml per 10 gal of bleach for the chlorine that is missing in RO water.
What purpose is the Physan/sodium benzoate?
 

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
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I am planning on going with 14 Blue Dream and 2 USD in Bravo after 2-3 weeks of veg.
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TheArchitect

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Thanks TA!
I read somewhere else about someone adding 1ml per 10 gal of bleach for the chlorine that is missing in RO water.
What purpose is the Physan/sodium benzoate?

No, problem.

The physan or sb is just to keep the stock tank from getting funky from algae or any other junk that you don't want living in it.
 

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
Veteran
Basically, I add the maximum soluable amount of both parts into individual 5 gallon buckets of ro water.

Add a drop of physan or 1ppm of sodium benzoate, and you have your stock tanks.

Then just mix the base to 36ppm and calnit to 24ppm at .5 conversion. 360ppm base 240ppm calnit is 600ppm or 1.2ec.

I think you'll find a product like jh biotech's biomin calcium helpful should you run into issues.

Do you use the max soluable rates listed on the package? Have you already calculated the max amount per gallon?
 

BldSwtTrs

Member
Hey Arm there are some REALLY REALLY good threads about running jacks over at the farm.

Look for cap's stuff. He has it simplified and super dialed.
 

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
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Hey Arm there are some REALLY REALLY good threads about running jacks over at the farm.

Look for cap's stuff. He has it simplified and super dialed.
Checked out a couple threads over there during break time. Really really good stuff over there :)
What was kind of ironic, was one thread that was started a couple years ago, referred to ICMag as a place to see what people are doing with Jacks. Looks like they caught on over there ;)
I think the only issue I would like to clarify, and it may be over there buried in a thread, but I am wondering about changing ratios once stretch is done.
My first thought is to lower the Cal Nit, but it would be nice to see others experiences. JR Peters has a bloom booster, and a few other additives that I would like to try also, like MOST for example.
 

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
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Still cleaning up the mess from the well debacle. This is just the stealth RO in my closet, the Big Boy was even worse. Luckily, the carbon filter portion is rebuild able, and I just need to rinse the clay out if the carbon, add some more from the pet store, and hopefully be back online.
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Speaking of the closet... The largest USD yet! Stretch is almost over, but the tallest is 4" above the screen!
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The outdoor crop is doing well. Had some cold temps and wind this last week, but they made it through.
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The veg room is coming along. Have 32 plants at various stages of veg. Will fill 3 rooms over the next 2-4 weeks.
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The Sis will be harvested over 2-3 days to allow the rest of the buds an extra couple of days, taking them a full 70 days. At that point I can start taking the foremost buds from the lone USD. The gf will have to pick a new trophy bud, since I had to cut out some bud rot. I have only had her do that to me once, and it wasn't much, maybe a few grams. There are plenty of other contenders in there though.
I took a couple lower buds off the Sis the other night to get some bonsai hero practice.
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Mixed my first two tanks with Jacks Hydro, Cal Nite, and Epsom salts. Went very smoothly, EC 1.5, and only had to drop PH by half a point.
These sandwich bags represent a 30g feed tank for a fraction of the cost!
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Will post some harvest shots over the next few days, and maybe a video...
 

SecondAttempt

Active member
You must have some real Mag hungry whores... looks like as much epsom as Jack's... how much weight of each you using? Just got my Jack's gonna run without epsom unless they beg me for it.
 

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
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I used 3/1.8/1 of Jacks/Cal Nit/Epsom grams per gallon based on a thread at the Farm. I may back off a little bit, but most of my strains are cal mag whores...
 

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
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Chop in progress! Stickiest, largest, and overall best crop yet! Can't imagine less than 6 zips per plant, and the room was only half full. I see a full room pulling 6 units at least :)
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