3000W SCROG/Fully Automated/Gavita's/Iponic 600.....Let the fun begin!!!

[jackmayoffer]

Its not just a soil drench always start out with the low dose always spray lights off...

 

[BigGreen]

Haha I gotta take some pics of some seed plants I got going, ya wanna see somebody worry about stretch Ive let them get wayyy to big just cut them in half today

 

[LEDNewbie]

Thanks again everyone for tagging along and helping me out!!!! It truly is greatly appreciated!!!! girls got feed double dose fascilitor, masssboost, peakboost, bloomboost and aqua flakes at 5ml per gallon for a total EC of 1.6. Man does that combo of Aptus boosters require some ph up!!!!! Normally my 50 gallon drum of nutes requires 2.5-3ml of ph up. The 10 gallons of nutes I just made with Aptus required 6ml of ph up!!!! Wow!!!

I gotta say. Minus those couple mold issues I found the girls look crazy healthy. Not a unhealthy leaf in room!! Here's to hoping for a healthy finish!!

 

[LEDNewbie]

Here is a sample reading of my room conditions during lights on. Lowest humidity gets is 60% with a/c running. When it shuts off humidity rises to 70%.... I guess I'll have to run my dehumidifier in another week during lights on to get humidity down to 50%?!?! Also does everyone take there humidity reading just above the canopy like I'm doing?

Here is a pic of my temp, co2 and humidity gauge hanging just above the canopy


Here is a snap shot from my Iphone of an average reading in my room during lights on

 

[LEDNewbie]

One other question, I currently have two fans blowing air across the top of my canopy. Do you recommend a third fan blowing air under the canopy as well?

 

[DrFever]

I say raise temps to 86 raise co2 to min 1350 and let her buck
you know LED with all his dutchy zone SHIT and other crap your wasting your money on jesus christ its alll becomes over head and
ad overall cost and down sizing on profit stop listenign to every clown on here if you were my partner i skid you long ago
its about making money doing this not spending
and trust me you will have spent more then you wiill ever make if you keep this way of growing WAKE THE FCK UP
now its taking you what to fill 5 x 5 area in plants where before you it took you 4 - 5 way more mature and WAY MORE yield per and you think your going to gain more weight lol with little plants your going to be in for a rude awakening YIELD = size of plants and amount of buds

REMEMBER THE OLD DAYS LED HERE 4 PLANT 5X5 1180 DRY GRAMS PER 1K HOW MUCH YOU WANNA BET YOUR LUCKY TO BREAK A POUND PER 1 K I CAN SEE IT ALREADY SMALL PLANTS

 

[LEDNewbie]

Thanks for the support Doc

I hear ya about keeping costs down, but mold is NOT something I want to fuck around with!!!

I'm pretty sure baring any big issues I should have at least a pound a light! If BM's get me again then it will be like last time, maybe 1/2 pound a light!!!

Also I get what your saying about plant size equaling yield. But there are plenty of sog growers out there flipping plants after 1-2 days of veg(100+ plants a light) and getting 2-2.5 pounds a light. And plants don't get any smaller than that!!!

Another 50 days and all shall be revealed!!! I'll take trim pics, bud on scale pics and bud in bag pics. If I get 2 pounds I'll tell everyone. If I get 4 pounds great.... I'm not scared to let everyone know what my final yield is!! I'm more focused this grow on just finishing a round without total catastrophic failure again!!! Thanks for spreading some sunshine bud!!!!! LOL!!!!

 

[LEDNewbie]

One other thing, checked run off today. EC was 2.6 You've gotta fucking love Drip Clean!!! Not a burned tip to be found. Just healthy green plants. I could have probably just left it and started to lower feed but decided a flush was in order. Made up 25 gallons of nutes, 50 ml of cal-mag, base and drip clean. About 650PPM on the 700 scale. After running that 25 gallons through the plants EC was around 2.0. Made up another 25 gallons of nutes this time 450 ppm with 50ml cal-mag, base and drip clean. Was getting way to late so decided to shut it down for the night. Will flush plants again tomorrow with that batch. That should get it to a reasonable run off EC. Then I'll lower my feed a bit from now on until everything evens out.

Someone posted before about hitting plants hard in the beginning with the nutes and then dialling it back. I see what they mean now. Next round I will feed plants more aggresively in the first few weeks and then cut my feed down probably to a 1.0-1.2EC and then I don't think there will be this much build up.....

 

[BigGreen]

The drip clean is groovy. I had the same deal 3.0 ec runoff but the plants seamed A OK
Still you wanna flush that shit. A matter of fact Im gonna go flush mine right now.
Maybe even take a few pics

 

[medicalmj]

One other question, I currently have two fans blowing air across the top of my canopy. Do you recommend a third fan blowing air under the canopy as well?

Airflow within and beneath the canopy is, and you know the answer, always a good thing.

Not to pile on, but as to Dr Fever's comments you should heed his advice. I've done my share of wasting money in the past so I am guilty too. But I gave that up and had to do a simple P&I to reign it in.

Here's a breakdown of where the money goes after initial investment:

Nutes - $40 per month; $150 per grow (4 months total).
Electric - $250 per month;
Replace bulbs - $40 per month; Four bulbs each replaced every 4 month @ $40 each. I use plantmax not hortilux.
CO2 - $30 per month;
Maintenance - $100 per month; This is where I get $ for netting, scissors, velcro and other odds and ends needed.

All this sht needs to accounted for and perhaps you should immediately start a P&I spreadsheet so you can see where the money goes.

 

[LEDNewbie]

Funny you mentioned that medicalmj. Just the other day I was thinking of Doing a total cost break down of this run. Once I'm nearing the end and know all my costs I will let everyone know exactly what it is

I will also do a cost comparison on my last soil run. I think many will be surprised at the end results

 

[shroomyshroom]

Funny you mentioned that medicalmj. Just the other day I was thinking of Doing a total cost break down of this run. Once I'm nearing the end and know all my costs I will let everyone know exactly what it is

I will also do a cost comparison on my last soil run. I think many will be surprised at the end results

That would be greatly appreciated

 

[medicalmj]

Funny you mentioned that medicalmj. Just the other day I was thinking of Doing a total cost break down of this run. Once I'm nearing the end and know all my costs I will let everyone know exactly what it is

I will also do a cost comparison on my last soil run. I think many will be surprised at the end results

Sweet! You seem organized enough to do a great job for the benefit of others. And I forgot to add medium (coco), which costs about $25 per month or $100 per grow (4 months). Wish I could include labor in my P&L since trimming is a fcking nightmare, lol!

 

[jackmayoffer]

I say raise temps to 86 raise co2 to min 1350 and let her buck
you know LED with all his dutchy zone SHIT and other crap your wasting your money on jesus christ its alll becomes over head and
ad overall cost and down sizing on profit stop listenign to every clown on here if you were my partner i skid you long ago
its about making money doing this not spending
and trust me you will have spent more then you wiill ever make if you keep this way of growing WAKE THE FCK UP
now its taking you what to fill 5 x 5 area in plants where before you it took you 4 - 5 way more mature and WAY MORE yield per and you think your going to gain more weight lol with little plants your going to be in for a rude awakening YIELD = size of plants and amount of buds

REMEMBER THE OLD DAYS LED HERE 4 PLANT 5X5 1180 DRY GRAMS PER 1K HOW MUCH YOU WANNA BET YOUR LUCKY TO BREAK A POUND PER 1 K I CAN SEE IT ALREADY SMALL PLANTS

So your telling some one to let mold take over there grow and don't give a shit what happens to the plants.. Don't buy a $20.00 bottle to prevent mold. That's some really great advice. Seriously .... And you don't think you can yield with small plants I have done the exact plant count as Led and have hit 2.5 a light and the end product will blow any thing you have seen or grown away... So I will let DR bad advice help out LED from here on out good luck with your moldy ass weed..This is exactly why the market suck shitty ass grown weed its all about yield fuck the quality...What a fucking joke...

 

[DrFever]

So your telling some one to let mold take over there grow and don't give a shit what happens to the plants.. Don't buy a $20.00 bottle to prevent mold. That's some really great advice. Seriously .... And you don't think you can yield with small plants I have done the exact plant count as Led and have hit 2.5 a light and the end product will blow any thing you have seen or grown away... So I will let DR bad advice help out LED from here on out good luck with your moldy ass weed..This is exactly why the market suck shitty ass grown weed its all about yield fuck the quality...What a fucking joke...

What i am saying is wow i have had 5 rooms 75 plants in each 2000 + clones and never had mold issues in my life one starts to
wonder with all this shit people put on and use isn't the main cause of half there issues 1200 plants outdoor no issues and by the way 800 pounds wet 250 dry and yes i am from quebec where lots of weed goes south by the billlions so please donlt talk to me about quality when you clowns down south are scooping it up as fast as it gets there funny shit really nothing like in the day having runners picking up 250,000 every few weeks from boston And New york ?? last 5 years most of the weed usa smoked either came from Mexico or canada now usa with there arrogant style of Bs is again thinking there number 1 on growing lol no wonder your laughing stalk of the world losers
also LED to my understanding you need to watch your eletrical bill now your running more shit adding to power what gives ??? AC and other gadgets ??? guess that doesn;t matter anymore ???
bottom line keep it simple fck the teas get a good regiment read your plats and feed the chelated food life is good

 

[LEDNewbie]

Hang on everyone!!!!!! I think we all come on here for the some reason. For the love of cannabis. I really appreciate everyone's input and involvement in my thread!!! No need to get excited.

Yes doc, power is still a concern for me. But I figured I could hang around the limit without going over with a/c. Plus the last 2 weeks I won't be running co2 so I'll turn off the a/c and just run exhausted air to control temps and humidity. Realized last grow that if I wanted to run co2 I would have to run a/c. Last grow with exhausted air I was going through a 50 lbs bottle every 10-14 days!!!! So far on this grow I'm on the same 50 lbs bottle and I've been growing since beginning of April!!!!!!! almost 2 months on one bottle. So a definite savings there!!!!!

One thing I will say doc, whether I grow in soil or coco I will NEVER grow without the OG Biowar tea! Shit is fucking awesome!!! Not one fungus gnat all grow, no deficiencies nothing. Definitely think that is money and effort well spent no matter what medium your growing in. Just knowing there is something natural in my medium helping defend against gnats and thrips at all times is very comforting!!!

Thanks again everyone for tagging along! Much appreciated

 

[LEDNewbie]

And doc, I think those two spot of mold I found are no ones fault but my own for running high humidity and high night time temps. Nothing to do with the products I'm using or the style in which I'm growing. Lesson learned and won't happened again!

 

[jackmayoffer]

What i am saying is wow i have had 5 rooms 75 plants in each 2000 + clones and never had mold issues in my life one starts to
wonder with all this shit people put on and use isn't the main cause of half there issues 1200 plants outdoor no issues and by the way 800 pounds wet 250 dry and yes i am from quebec where lots of weed goes south by the billlions so please donlt talk to me about quality when you clowns down south are scooping it up as fast as it gets there funny shit really nothing like in the day having runners picking up 250,000 every few weeks from boston And New york ?? last 5 years most of the weed usa smoked either came from Mexico or canada now usa with there arrogant style of Bs is again thinking there number 1 on growing lol no wonder your laughing stalk of the world losers
also LED to my understanding you need to watch your eletrical bill now your running more shit adding to power what gives ??? AC and other gadgets ??? guess that doesn;t matter anymore ???
bottom line keep it simple fck the teas get a good regiment read your plats and feed the chelated food life is good

Funny shit... next your going to say you have a 12 inch dick..You don't need no fancy Ac just keep it simple and if you have mold save your money just leave the mold..Oh ya I grow all the weed that is sent all over the world... Your a joke..

 

[sureshot66]

seeing how $ is always a concern with the bottom line now that youre running your ac you wont need a 2nd dehumidifier the ac and 60 pint you have will keep your night humidity within paramater and running a 2nd dehu will make your ac work harder more$....*my experience
your question about where to read humidity,it doesnt matter where you take your humidity reading from its a measurement of the moisture in the air,its the same throughout the whole room

 

[ChemDgMillionre]

Ppl started hating on Canadian herb cus guess what, y'all ain't the only one who can grow anymore.

took a medical program before majority of ppl realized ur 250lbs outdoor bangers were the definition of beaster.

I'm not being an ignorant ass hating on ALL Canadian weed, but guess what bro, beast is beast. Stop bitching and step it up.