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Do (some, many) Icmag Members Have A Science Problem?

Galactic

Member
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Galactic

Member
Leave this Duality

See it yourself

The truth lies in the Trinity

Seek it for the 3rd viewpoint of completion

Where a cycle is completed is also its origin

black white grey
father mother child

To search for answers where there is no map

Find the dichotomy

The Trinity is Doublespeak

:D
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
Veteran
if Tesla and mother Theresa had a baby and it was crossed to the baby of Ghandi and Marie Currie using Mendelian selection techniques how many generations till we get us a science messiah? What if we crossed Einstein to Joan of arc and crossed their progeny to that of our tesla, theresa, ghandi, curie cross?


interesting AND ironically enough the fathers of the two hottest science topics here,
the father of genetics (mendel) and the father of physics (newton) both worked from intuition to create scientific observations and both were christian and I don't their contributions admonished because of their dogmatic beliefs or the fact that as in Einstein's case it was casual observation that drove actualization through scientific method
 

skullznroses

that aint nothing but 10 cent lovin
Veteran
I only use the scientific method when god does not counsel me directly on matters. I call it a pithy second option, since it is so rarely believed.

Ps. Sounds like caffeine was the secret ingredient in the new cloned embryonic stem cells that have just been announced.
 

siftedunity

cant re Member
Veteran
science is a tool, just like mathematics. its a tool to help us understand what is happening around us.

without science we wouldn't even have computers and internet to even have this discussion..
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
Veteran
:peek: seems the split between the eloi and morlocks is further along than I thought. It's pointless to debate with those who are unable to do so in a logical manner. You grow weed without science? How little you understand what science is.
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
Veteran
im a heinlein man myself

if your going to live according to science fiction .....
 

ChoppedLiver

New member
Forget it man, nobody liked to hear that the world is round, or that their step-dad is more of a man than their father and I mean nobody, these things take time to sink in before coming to grips with them, so let's just give it that time and see what happens.
 

ChoppedLiver

New member
how's reading/research coming? Growing by leaps and bounds with the help of science it seems? Or, will you try to have us all believe that you understood all of the implications of that via intuition/natural observation and etc? Tehee..
 

mrcreosote

Active member
Veteran
I'm re-reading Sagan and I'm constantly astonished by his clarity and vision.

“Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality. When we recognize our place in an immensity of light‐years and in the passage of ages, when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling, that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual. So are our emotions in the presence of great art or music or literature, or acts of exemplary selfless courage such as those of Mohandas Gandhi or Martin Luther King, Jr. The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both.”
― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

That rascal has got a million more just like that.

Simple yet deeply profound insight.

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Mr. Lovebuzzed

Active member
yes if you scientists you have problem with science, if you want to create some theory you will face bunch of huuuge problems.. and solve it somehow - the thing with method..

so critics of current state of science is important, you need critical reason..just that critics has to stay immanent to scientific problem you try to solve..

so if some religious fool criticize science, its not immanent to science, its useless for science. but if some other fool say to scientists you cant criticize science, than its useless too casue tis political bullshit.

some people who try to defend science against religion, tend to understand science in terms of religion, it means they use illegitimate narrations, so called metanarration to justify their attitude, pure irracionalism..

science only exists in life of real scientists, results(technologies) of science in your life is not object for that science - except psychology or sociology, etiology etc. and using results in your life is not scientific, but political - its about bio-politics a bio-anatomy..

terribly uneducated members here, if you assume problem of politics in science.. no consciousness about difference between politics of science and science. between scientific workers in scientific institutions and real scientists and so on, and so on..

:tiphat:
 

mean mr.mustard

I Pass Satellites
Veteran
I'm re-reading Sagan and I'm constantly astonished by his clarity and vision.

“Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality. When we recognize our place in an immensity of light‐years and in the passage of ages, when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling, that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual. So are our emotions in the presence of great art or music or literature, or acts of exemplary selfless courage such as those of Mohandas Gandhi or Martin Luther King, Jr. The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both.”
― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

That rascal has got a million more just like that.

Simple yet deeply profound insight.

I was reading this thread and thinking of this the whole time and hoped I would get to post it.

Then BAM last page...

I bow to you sir.

:yes: :yes:
 
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