pot hits it's potency ceiling, so where to now?!

[billyblog]

ceiling...? you mean you think there can be no ceiling?

 

[SeedsOfFreedom]

Before we start thinking potency has truly hit the ceiling, breeders should make sure that strains breed true for potency. How many strains really test around 20-30% THC in almost every female grown out. I don't know of many. Modern strains are often hit and miss for potency, from sister to sister, plants can vary widely. Stabilizing strains until nearly every plant breeds true for potency would be great next step for breeders.
Also, I do agree with others, THC percentages, are not a great indicator of real life potency. Some of the most potent strains I have smoked are definitively under 20% THC. I would assume that the other cannabinoids present greatly affect the way we feel potency. I know enough 20+% THC strains that feel pretty weak when smoked. I think we all could benefit from ditching the THC tests. Go back to the old way...just smoke herb to test its potency. Start testing herb again once we figure out which of the other cannabinoids alter the effects of the THC and what purposes other cannabinoids can have recreationally and/or medicinally. Then we could list the numerous(80?+) cannabinoids present in each strain and the quantity(%) of each. Those numbers together might be close to a real representation of real life potency. Until then THC % mean very little.

 

[codger]

It was like seven years ago I know a dude who grew a NL1 onsite for advanced when they first came out and got it tested it came out 36 percent,I shit you not it was done at a canadian med site so I feel as far as flowers go we have a way yet I think the wax and other stuff is closer to being stuck on potentcy on certain numbers for each one up to buddar...codger

 

[theJointedOne]

thc factor imo is not that important

bag appeal on the otherhand is...even a top shelf sativa will have a bag appeal that screams 'I AM A TOP SHELF SATIVA' lol

 

[mingmen]

Candy Jack seems to be all the rage here in San Diego. Feels a little too indica for me (for something sold as a sativa) but always testing over 24%. I wonder if this is a case of bag appeal and taste/smell over riding the focus on the high. Although I could see a large population wanting something potent that you can smoke without introducing paranoia. For me it has a definite ceiling.
Several sourd cuts going around that are so strong I don't want to smoke them day to day

 

[mingmen]

all this talk of ceiling is making m drool. Let me know if there is a sativa in the socal area with no ceiling. I don't have the technical knowledge that you all have. I would say that blue dream has not much ceiling for a hybrid and is my fav overall day to day. Local sourd fits the bill but much too racy for me.
Should I be looking for a durban poison? I see it around locally but at discount prices so thinking it must not be really top shelf. There was a delivery that had it private reserve for a premium but they don't service my area.
Any no ceiling strains out there?

 

[smk8000]

I'm just sort of sick of Indicas taking over the industry. Sometimes I desire it (if I'm in pain or need sleep) but most of the time I want something that sends my mind into the sky rather than pastes me to the couch with a TV remote.

 

[chefboy6969]

I'm just sort of sick of Indicas taking over the industry. Sometimes I desire it (if I'm in pain or need sleep) but most of the time I want something that sends my mind into the sky rather than pastes me to the couch with a TV remote.

Good luck trying to change the industry buddy....when all people want is KUSH....i am sick of it too....but you try and tell a grower who is spending his money and time to grow a strain that takes 90-100 days when they think...shit i could have almost 2 crops done by then...and there is no more excuse for low yield sativa...there are enough sativa hybrids that yield very well..just check out this thread https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=262146

So what is it???

THE MONEY....i have heard and it makes me sick...people...meaning the general public...prefer the heavy Kushes...but the honest truth is because thats all they know...If these kids and suits ever smoked a real sativa...they would say to there dealer...hey gotta any Haze or Sativa's...what's going on now...is....hey you got any KUSH

so until that happens...nothing will change

peace
Chefboy

 

[chefboy6969]

pot that is ceiling-less...strains that is

Celestial Temple Sativa
Haze-either Tom Hills Haze or Old Timers Haze or Sam Skunkmans Haze
SAGE- i have had her a few times very up high with no ceiling
Oaxacan(mexican)
Thai varieties...and Cambodian strains...like Kali Mist
African Sativa's- like Malawi, Swazi, Ciskei
Jamaican Sativa's- like Lambsbreathe/Lambsbread

These are just a few....but you don't see too many people growing these strains out...but you see everyone wanting OG Kush or Bubba or Sour Bubble or Rockstar Kush, or Goji OG
and so on and so on...I rest my case...

peace
Chefboy

 

[chefboy6969]

in the old days of ICMAG...people who disagreed with you..would actually comment..and it would spark discussion...now all you guys know how to do is click that anonymous Was this helpful button...LOL

I am thinking of disappearing from this place

really funny
peace
Chefboy

 

[Gerardbutler79]

Yes and you will not be missed chefboy. LOL good bye!

 

[jessethestoner]

Yes and you will not be missed chefboy. LOL good bye!

true

 

[chefboy6969]

WOW a fan club, for moi...THANK YOU Gerardbutler79 and jessethestoner....GUESS WHAT GUYS...just because you both responded that way...I am staying put....HAHA....Sticks and Stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me...

peace
Chefboy

 

[mingmen]

pot that is ceiling-less...strains that is

Celestial Temple Sativa
Haze-either Tom Hills Haze or Old Timers Haze or Sam Skunkmans Haze
SAGE- i have had her a few times very up high with no ceiling
Oaxacan(mexican)
Thai varieties...and Cambodian strains...like Kali Mist
African Sativa's- like Malawi, Swazi, Ciskei
Jamaican Sativa's- like Lambsbreathe/Lambsbread

These are just a few....but you don't see too many people growing these strains out...but you see everyone wanting OG Kush or Bubba or Sour Bubble or Rockstar Kush, or Goji OG
and so on and so on...I rest my case...

peace
Chefboy

ty, chef.
Have a kali mist sample. I will test it out
have seen lambsbread. would like to find those hazes you mention.
that is pretty gay that somebody would have a problem with that post

 

[mingmen]

heard a lot about sage but only seen it up in LA. keeping my eyes peeled

 

[Weird]

sage is nice pot ran it in the 90s crossed it out, the cross is interesting don't know what I did with the original

funny i just got an old cut of her so it worked itself out

 

[Donald Mallard]

For anyone who's been around long enough to watch the evolving trends in pot since the 70's, we obviously hit a peak in potency quite a long time ago. Unique highs are mostly sacrificed to the ongoing mish mash of cross breeding.

So, where is the future of pot heading? Do you believe breeders are going to shatter previous THC records through selective breeding, or are we simply going to go round and round on the merry-go-round of flavour seeking like kids in a candy store?

Do you think it's possible that someone will genetically modify a future weed that will surpass the potency of anything we ever had before, and if they do, are you going to be game to smoke the sh*t?

billy

are u sure you want it stronger than the strongest is already?
why??
its potent enough,
try another drug if pot isnt doing it for you ...

have you had the most potent ??
i dont think youd be worried about it being more potent if you had..

 

[Weird]

i think science will discover the genes have a limit to how much they can express and that goes with all secondary and primary metabolites

 

[Donald Mallard]

Still lots of work to be done. Working on consistency with each strain where there is less variation from plant to plant of the same strain. Also not everyone likes or prefers a high THC percentage some like other high levels of cannabinoids and there could be lots of work to be done on that front. Also who know what amazing things will come out once cannabis is fully legal and out in the open for everyone to share.

i think a lot of people believe what they read and dont have an opinion based on their own experience or thoughts ,

like with thc for instance ,
a lot of folk here seem to think the more you have,
the stronger the pot will be ,
something in the 30 mark being twice as strong as something in the 15% mark ,,
but its not is it????

im 100% sure i could give you guys weed that would make you hold onto the edge of your seat and wish you were straight ,
and its not called kush and the thc content isnt that high compared to modern hybrid ...

 

[BugJar]

I think that it will remain similar to how it is now for some time.

I imagine people will still work on autoflower stuff for a while... seems like a wast of time to me personally...

I'm sure people will still pursue the sativa like effects in shorter times and bigger yields.

I've only been growing for about 10 years but it doesn't really seem like much has changed in my time. stuff comes in and out of fashion ( skunk, haze, kush, ) we will probably linger on the kush for a bit and move on to something else