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Mass/RI/Con Growers here!

aligee

Well-known member
Veteran
thats some terrible law making right there for sure....basically shutting out 99% of pot smokers from ever being able to make a legal buck running their own medical cannabis..the industry will be hijacked by mega millionaire corporations and investment banking firms....they will employ low wage labor to do all the agriculture work..

such BS...there isnt any kind of fees for growing winegrapes or hops to make alcohol products with...alcohol licenses to brew your own beer or wine arent anywhere near 500k...

what terrible legislation hopefully it does not pass.

Yes4prop, I am on the same mindset as you, its a damn shame too this industry could really help out with unemployment, more tax revenue, and the chance for new entrepreneurs to be successful in a wide variety of ways.

gotta hold those special cuts real tight, the day is coming when uncle sam will be the biggest legal ganja grower, im ready....:tiphat:
 
I just don't get it .... It's like they pass shit just to shut us up .... Even if what they pass is ass backwards garbage bills ...... If they took their heads out of each others asses .....
And just used common sense .... Very rare now a daze ...... Can't they drop their political/personal views/ideas/thoughts and realize the potential ......
I'm sorry to all law makers that you have to actually use your final brain cells to actually think and make a proper bill that makes sense ... Covers the bases and is realistic .....

What will it take for them to realize? High unemployment? Nope .... The economic bubble to pop? Nope ..... I bet it'll take a serious threat of China owning our country before they attempt ..... Better learn Chinese as the already own 30-40% of our national debt ....... 15trillion $$ later ...... Cannabis industry legalized and taxed just like alky would have us debt free in a decade and we could leave something for our kids ... Rather then more debt and a slave to the system


Rant over ... Should have warned ya ;)
 

Tyga

Active member
Veteran
Damn chemdg! i thought my split was big... That motherfucker is a TANK! Your going to love vert... Im so happy to never have to fuck with ducting and hoods again. Shits whack... Keep that environent top notch and those girls will be blowing up in no time and you will def see an increase in yield/density.
 

ChemDgMillionre

Active member
Veteran
Lol, ya I cracked up laughing when I first opened the evaporater.. Damn near 8' long! And about them, yields.. Yup yup, my biggest weight was coming from my second flower room, where I had the 2x vert cool tube & 1k overhead on a short mover.. So with all verts, no glass, better plant placement, and better cooling I should see things go up.

The amount of 6", 8", and 12" fans I was using for my main trunk and branch lines is almost equal to the amount of power my split pulls.... Now I just got a truck load of hoods & fans ;)
 
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Slip Kid

Oh, those yields will go up alright.Say goodbye to the outside world, excepting cig breaks.Once the trimming starts, you may never see the sun again:).That a/c unit is going to crank.Tacoma has one and his reviews are 5 stars.I'll have to stick with my big wall unit but I think eventually I'll end up with one similar to that.It's a good thing my nieghbor's as dumb as a box of rocks because my wall unit ran right to Dec 27th and it's started up again this week.She wouldn't bother me anyway she's too busy blowing leaves...:tumbleweed:
 
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Slip Kid

Oh yes:) Here's a starter cola in my vert room.I have vert bulbs everywhere!! It an affliction/addiction etc, etc but when you're pumping that coco like a 50lb curl and the plants are cranking, life is good.:woohoo:
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Alone

Police cannot use smell of MJ to "search"....

Police cannot use smell of MJ to "search"....

Massachusetts.
The law is now passed that police CANNOT use the "smell" of marijuana to search you, your vehicle, or your home.
They cannot charge you with distribution for passing a joint to someone in public. Even in front of a cop.

http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Aumgywjq1dWxtJnAMk6OeZUAAAAA;_ylv=0/SIG=13lq14bk2/EXP=1366799710/**http%3A//hemp.org/news/content/massachusetts-court-says-marijuana-smell-not-sufficient-cause-search

Listen to the music at the bottom of the page. 1st song ~ "Shit... makes the flowers grow". Funny song!
 

J.A.G.

Member
ICMag Donor
Massachusetts.
The law is now passed that police CANNOT use the "smell" of marijuana to search you, your vehicle, or your home.
They cannot charge you with distribution for passing a joint to someone in public. Even in front of a cop.

http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Aumgywjq1dWxtJnAMk6OeZUAAAAA;_ylv=0/SIG=13lq14bk2/EXP=1366799710/**http%3A//hemp.org/news/content/massachusetts-court-says-marijuana-smell-not-sufficient-cause-search

Listen to the music at the bottom of the page. 1st song ~ "Shit... makes the flowers grow". Funny song!
Good.(though for my own personal reasons, wish this happened about a decade ago:biggrin:)
 

rasputin

The Mad Monk
Veteran
It's been law since 2011 that the smell of cannabis is not enough of a reason to justify a search.

If you think that was just recently passed then you've been living for 2 years with a completely false sense of what your rights are.

Many of the cases involving small amounts of cannabis possession have something in common... the people involved didn't know their rights and allowed warrantless searches of their car or their backpacks.

If more people knew their rights and exercised them, we wouldn't see so many cops trying to pull one over on people. Or at least they might not give those of us that do such a hard time about "being difficult." Just because a bunch of dumb shits roll over out of ignorance and fear doesn't mean we all have to.

What was recently decided was that if you pass a joint or a bowl to another person it cannot be considered distribution of a controlled substance. It's not a criminal offense to smoke a joint anymore, it's a civil.

Also, since passing a joint is not a crime, it cannot be used as a reason for searching a vehicle, a bag or anything else in your possession.

Here's a better write up on what was decided...
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/201...ing-pot-law/ONZICnjkHApFW1uJ1Mbk6M/story.html
 
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Slip Kid

Where I live we have Park Rangers and local police.When you are on park property the law is totally different, although even if you have a bag with 2oz they'll take it and give you a $100 ticket.I was surprised to see this happen a few times recently.It's funny if you park at the beach in the back of the lot, you'll come back to find the rangers digging through your vehicle.They told me that "lots of people go missing or commit suicide around here so we have to check vehicles suspiciously parked".They also say they are looking for guns because people like to shoot the turkeys!!! I never travel with cannabis on me, I keep it at home.:)
 
Slip .... That to me sounds like rent -a-cops ..... Anything found in an illegal search is useless ..... And if they even think they have the right to search a vehicle because of where it's parked they are .... RONG .... yes I spelled that wrong just to make the point ...... It tales 24hrs to fill a missing persons case so unless the car has a BOLO or is not moved after 24hrs then they MAY have reasonable cause to search .... But even w a BOLO on a vehicle they still need a warrant.

The pigs out by you are twisted and corrupt ..... They always try to give me a ticket but they have yet to get one to actually stick

Ras ... Is right ...... Too many people don't know their rights

DEMAND PROOF .... DENY EVERYTHING ... ADMIT NOTHING

Use your amendments people ... That's the best way to keep a pigs hands tied
 
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Slip Kid

Well, they do it!!I know these guys who parked on a dirt road by the beach to go surfing and came back to find their cars contents all over the ground, which included the 2oz I mentioned above and they had to pay the fine.I honestly don't know the law but the rangers have a wide authority within the park.In the summer time when the surf is high from a hurricane or some such they close the beaches and entering the water will get you arrested, I swear!! I guess maybe nobody wants to go to the federal court or, geez, I don't know. You think I would know better but all I know is I don't go over there with even a tiny roach. They have speed traps galore but hey, you can drink beer on the beach!!Many of the rangers are only stationed here for a yr or two then move on, many are huge dicks.I've only seen one person arrested and that was a man openly molesting his daughter on a crowded beach, it was surreal...:tumbleweed:
 

rasputin

The Mad Monk
Veteran
Yeah, I don't doubt that they do act differently on park property. I keep my distance from Rangers, EPA, and the like. Those guys are a whale of a different color in both attitude and latitude. They can hit you with some far fetched penalty you didn't even know existed.

Anything found in an illegal search can be thrown out but the reality of it isn't so cut and dry. Location matters, for one. But also if for no other reason than because the friction involved in having to go to court and fight it. It's not as easy as saying to the cop on the scene "this is an illegal search so I am free to go!" If only.
 
I'd bet they do all that shit .... Wouldn't put it past a boar(woodland pig) to do such shit ..... But just saying they seem to be on a power trip ...... But they still have laws and the justice system to abide by ..... Not like it's a reservation that can be governed by it's own laws

Your rights are the same weather your on a beach, national forest or in a city ......

Yeah Ras I wish it were so cut and dry ..... Only one time have I had 5-0 try to do an unconsented search ..... I told him I neither deny nor give permission for a search of my locked vehicle (not saying no and not saying yes .... Had a chill state trooper for my driving instructor so he taught all kinds of tricks lol)... If you want to search it you can get a warrant ... But without one it will be an illegal search...... Needless to say I got a ticket for a BS reason but better than the bud in the car ...... They won't even waste their time or a judges time to get a warrant over something so small .... If they friend suspect high volume then they may wait for a warrant :moon:

A little side note ... Park rangers are not dubbed "Police Officers" where as they are actually considered "peace officers" but with the same powers as a town/local cop ..... Same powers means they have to follow the same rules .... But obviously they don't because they have a mall security complex .... Gotta make up for what's lacking. With all the new laws Mass is passing/passed it will be much more difficult for them to get away with these types of actions ..... All we have to do is stand up to them and make sure they know that we know our rights ..... Cause in the end the higher powers can toss out any evidence and tickets done wrongfully ..... Just might not get back your weed :(
 
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Many of the cases involving small amounts of cannabis possession have something in common... the people involved didn't know their rights and allowed warrantless searches of their car or their backpacks.

If more people knew their rights and exercised them, we wouldn't see so many cops trying to pull one over on people. Or at least they might not give those of us that do such a hard time about "being difficult." Just because a bunch of dumb shits roll over out of ignorance and fear doesn't mean we all have to.

What was recently decided was that if you pass a joint or a bowl to another person it cannot be considered distribution of a controlled substance. It's not a criminal offense to smoke a joint anymore, it's a civil.

Also, since passing a joint is not a crime, it cannot be used as a reason for searching a vehicle, a bag or anything else in your possession.

Here's a better write up on what was decided...
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/201...ing-pot-law/ONZICnjkHApFW1uJ1Mbk6M/story.html

Thank You for that input RAS. This is exactly why I posted this. Incase someone didnt know their rights and just let the police search the vehicle and make you pop your trunk and stuff.

2 years ago, right after they passed this law in 2011, I had 2 top colas in 2 seperate jars I was bringing to a patients house so he could try both of them and see which was better for his PTSD and nerve pain.
I got pulled over for nothing. Just a random stop for 0 reason other than the cop felt like it.
My eyes were white from eyedrops.
No smell of MJ because it was in jars.

Still... he asked me to search my vehicle and I refused.

The cop got sooo mad he turned red in his face, went to the police car and got a small bag of schwag weed, and said if I didnt let him take a look, that he would say that weed was mine and would say the car smelled like weed and that if I didnt allow the search, he said he would have my car towed to the police station until they scored a warrent to search.
He said if he found a small amount of weed now, he would let me go no problems. If they found weed, even a small amount, after refusing the search and getting a warrent they would charge me for 2 ounces he would plant in there that he had in the trunk of his car!
He showed me the 2 ounces and said it was my choice. MY CHOICE?!? Assh*le!!!
I reluctantly and saddly/angrily had to say ok. I really had 0 choice. He took the 2 colas and let me go luckily.
Cops got a way around everything. I hate them! Not all... most.
 
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BasementGrower

ya they cant use smell for search.. buttt alot of people are now smoking more and making it more known that they smoke everywere they go.. so if a cop comes to ur window .. smells weed.. and sees smoke.. sees anything in plain view.. or if u have anything rong with ur car.. or anything they still search. honestly the smell just makes them look for other shit to allow them to search the car. there not stupid. haha..

just becareful .. always keep shit out of view.. and dont smoke and drive if ur going to drive like an idiot with a piece of shit car .
 
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Alone

Neg reppers can neg rep,
Haters can hate.
But in the end,
Im still puffin on dank.
The trend is dead,
your now just a bore.
Your neg reps are on sale,
at the fuking dollar store!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opyVdN8GZtc

CSG's GrandoggyPurps Feminized Week 6 ~ Smells soooo good.
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