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Everybody a breeder ?
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How do you breed with monoeciouis plants?
I honestly Don't know, can one of you experts tell me how its done as I need to grow some sinsemilla for my medication and apparently the selfing route is the way to go about it, How do I get Pollen?? Am I asking a stupid question.
Has any breeder of a feminized seed line written in any detail about criteria they use for selecting a pistillate individual to reverse?
Reviewing their stress testing protocols?
Perhaps a plant's 'reluctance' to reverse is a factor in its suitability to breed.
If you have to do repeated spraying, have to use higher strength STS or colloidal silver solution treatment and the process of application is longer what is the point?
Is there such a thing as a 'true' female that would not reverse no matter how much stress or chemical treatments you applied?
I was under the impression that ALL female cannabis plants had at least the potential to reverse... Even the Cheese cutting.
Maybe, if you had the time and space, and an amazing recessive female, reverse the female and make a selfed generation. If the resulting offspring are desirable (all pistillate 'females'), go back to a clone of the female you 'reversed' and back-cross her (Reoccurring Parent) to one of her male siblings. Half-sib enough times to obtain a dioecious male that is extremely close to the specimen s* female in his progeny, then use his dioecious pollen to pollinate the dioecious line to obtain this 'goal' female genotype?
Using a reversed female for your original progeny trials saves you space and time progeny testing the males, once your happy you like the female pistillate progeny of a hybrid cross, it then costs you additional time and money back-crossing.
This is one excellent way to select for stress 'survival traits', in a Top cross of a dioecious line.
Using reversal as a tool, not for breeding.
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How do you breed with monoeciouis plants?
I honestly Don't know, can one of you experts tell me how its done as I need to grow some sinsemilla for my medication and apparently the selfing route is the way to go about it, How do I get Pollen?? Am I asking a stupid question.
Has any breeder of a feminized seed line written in any detail about criteria they use for selecting a pistillate individual to reverse?
Reviewing their stress testing protocols?
Perhaps a plant's 'reluctance' to reverse is a factor in its suitability to breed.
If you have to do repeated spraying, have to use higher strength STS or colloidal silver solution treatment and the process of application is longer what is the point?
Is there such a thing as a 'true' female that would not reverse no matter how much stress or chemical treatments you applied?
I was under the impression that ALL female cannabis plants had at least the potential to reverse... Even the Cheese cutting.
Maybe, if you had the time and space, and an amazing recessive female, reverse the female and make a selfed generation. If the resulting offspring are desirable (all pistillate 'females'), go back to a clone of the female you 'reversed' and back-cross her (Reoccurring Parent) to one of her male siblings. Half-sib enough times to obtain a dioecious male that is extremely close to the specimen s* female in his progeny, then use his dioecious pollen to pollinate the dioecious line to obtain this 'goal' female genotype?
Using a reversed female for your original progeny trials saves you space and time progeny testing the males, once your happy you like the female pistillate progeny of a hybrid cross, it then costs you additional time and money back-crossing.
This is one excellent way to select for stress 'survival traits', in a Top cross of a dioecious line.
Using reversal as a tool, not for breeding.
instead of pissing back and forth, why don't the 'breeders'... go and breed some kick-ass seeds for me to grow...
Good point.
If you come up with something worthwhile who really cares how many plants you grew to get there.
All of this talk though scientific is quite self limiting, because if everybody had to grow 10,000 plants before their cross could be taken seriously we'd have about 5 strains to play with.
It's kind of like the chicken and the egg; what came first the special parent to work with or the idea of a certain strain i.e blueberry.
It's funny how this species works, I see beautiful things happen completely by accident, and some times even a strain that is 7 generations in still doesn't produce results like the accident.
Marijuana is a mysterious lady.
idk how to take this
are you being sarcastic? because; for all the data you have posted; if you honestly dont know where pollen comes from; you should likely be reading and not commenting in threads like these
if you are seriously asking; i will answer
I think he means sourcing proven male pollen
I basically mean in my dioecious line if I want to self the plants to make some variation where do I get pollen from.
My Pistillate plants are not producing staminate parts. Even under extreme stress!!!!!! Ever!
The Chemical application process retards plants. Pistillate individuals that morph usually produce staminate parts in 1 hit, then they drop pollen weeks later, this dioecious line won't under repeated treatment.
My Pistillate plants are not producing staminate parts. Even under extreme stress!!!!!! Ever!
The Chemical application process retards plants. Pistillate individuals that morph usually produce staminate parts in 1 hit, then they drop pollen weeks later, this dioecious line won't under repeated treatment.
I just pollen chucked some Killer Queen Redux x Blue Satellite 2.2, I can send some in to the boo if you like? Maybe hold you over while the breeders fight?
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I'm not a breeder but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.... 
what you said came across like; "how do i get pollen from monoecious" which totally confused me since it is totally obvious
w/ your problem i would take cuttings to reproduce {@ least that is what i have done ~now i do have a herm so it is an option if i want to further breed that line and am not too scared~ lol}
I'm not scared about the process of feminizing pistillate individuals, just becoming intoxicated.
What is obvious about collecting pollen Xmobotx.
How am I going to produce bulk seed with this breeding method.
Not with multiple clones that don't reverse easy, or if at all, I won't be able. (Its not efficient)
Like I said it is a technique employed by the wannabe cannabis breeder to see if his line is worth investigation, that is all it is useful for.
It is a classic breeding technique, it just has not described properly by the people that front it.
It is mainly use in other Genus with great success.
The dioecious method for breeding these s* Genotype Individuals includes the chance to make bulk seed from a pollen source in 1 hit.
What is obvious about collecting pollen Xmobotx.
How am I going to produce bulk seed with this breeding method.
Not with multiple clones that don't reverse easy, or if at all, I won't be able. (Its not efficient)
Like I said it is a technique employed by the wannabe cannabis breeder to see if his line is worth investigation, that is all it is useful for.
It is a classic breeding technique, it just has not described properly by the people that front it.
It is mainly use in other Genus with great success.
The dioecious method for breeding these s* Genotype Individuals includes the chance to make bulk seed from a pollen source in 1 hit.
oh your back
ok; you said, "feminizing pistillate individuals" ~pistillate individuals are fem {OK i understand that 'pistillate' is a more accurate term than 'female' w/ regard to plants but hover over the word and it says "female" in the little definition box
i wouldnt say anything is 'obvious' about collecting pollen <~just where it would come from. When you say your plants arent reversing now you have cleared the air ~but; you left that out And originally you said How do you breed with monoeciouis plants?
and that is obvious! in fact; one would be hard pressed to keep a monoecious plant from breeding itself <give it a neighbor {or 1000 or ???} w/ pistillate flowers and it will breed 'her' as well {frak'n ladyboy slut anyway}
I'm not sure what s* means
anyway; when i said 'not scared' i was joking ~i have zero fear of letting a little pollen fly herm or no {but i do so under fairly controlled conditions} and {herm or no} i will test progeny before i make any assumptions {so far just w/ my own anecdotal observation}
like i said somewhere once before; i made a batch of 'feminised' seeds which produced hermaphrodite progeny and so i didnt pursue that line. Today i wonder if maybe i should have ~it would have been an excellent line to determine if they do tend to 'return' to dioecious
ok; you said, "feminizing pistillate individuals" ~pistillate individuals are fem {OK i understand that 'pistillate' is a more accurate term than 'female' w/ regard to plants but hover over the word and it says "female" in the little definition box
i wouldnt say anything is 'obvious' about collecting pollen <~just where it would come from. When you say your plants arent reversing now you have cleared the air ~but; you left that out And originally you said How do you breed with monoeciouis plants?
and that is obvious! in fact; one would be hard pressed to keep a monoecious plant from breeding itself <give it a neighbor {or 1000 or ???} w/ pistillate flowers and it will breed 'her' as well {frak'n ladyboy slut anyway}
I'm not sure what s* means
anyway; when i said 'not scared' i was joking ~i have zero fear of letting a little pollen fly herm or no {but i do so under fairly controlled conditions} and {herm or no} i will test progeny before i make any assumptions {so far just w/ my own anecdotal observation}
like i said somewhere once before; i made a batch of 'feminised' seeds which produced hermaphrodite progeny and so i didnt pursue that line. Today i wonder if maybe i should have ~it would have been an excellent line to determine if they do tend to 'return' to dioecious
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okay... i just want to state up front. I am no genius. when it comes to making seeds, what i am trying to do is take what i perceive to be the best 2 plants and merge them to make some canna that is better than the first half of a 50/50 joint of what i thought was the best of the parents that created it... and that is the aim everytime, or if i wants something that is fruity,carrot, trichy, sticky or what ever, its not about making a name for yourself, cause good marijane is going to speak for itself as it has been stated previously... my folks around here are more than happy with my offerings when they stop procrastinating and actually put forth some effort...
hey hola cultivators
do you aware of this new teknology in cannabis breeding, clever seedlings informing which sex will previals
here is my new stud
(late april joke
actually it really showed today on one seedling of dj short cultivar (typical for purple) probably from inner seed-foil fixation from early stage of germination, do not have so good macro cam, it really looks like written y hihi
do you aware of this new teknology in cannabis breeding, clever seedlings informing which sex will previals
here is my new stud
(late april joke
actually it really showed today on one seedling of dj short cultivar (typical for purple) probably from inner seed-foil fixation from early stage of germination, do not have so good macro cam, it really looks like written y hihi
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