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big plant ppk
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not necessary with screened and washed turface. i used it as a cutter for unscreened turface to drive up porosity.
i screened the turface with aluminum window screen and then a 1/8" mesh stainless kitchen strainer. took about an hour. i will automate it sometime.
washed heavily turning it over until the water ran clear. then loaded it and washed it again.
flows beautifully!
once this is done you don't have to screen it again for fines, just wash it.
turface gets better with age. infinitely reusable.
That was so cordial I want to vomit. A guy could learn a thing or 2 about a thing or 2 here.
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Dam... was having a good day...
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-----I noticed you said something earlier about using pumice instead of turface if you can get that, I am thinking about crushed lava rocks. that is something I could obtain rather easily and I am sure it would act much like the turface storing beneficial bacteria in those tiny crevices, as well as draining and wicking well any thoughts seeing pumice as being pretty much the same thing?
i think it will work but try to keep particle size between 1/8" and 3/8". maybe a few larger or smaller pieces.
red only as the black stuff is supposed to have a lot of iron in it.
that shit is hard. i tried to break up a bunch of big pieces once with a sledgehammer and all i got was sore.
red only as the black stuff is supposed to have a lot of iron in it.
that shit is hard. i tried to break up a bunch of big pieces once with a sledgehammer and all i got was sore.
This reminds me of BigTokes biobuckets in a way that the system is pretty much recycling much in the same way and storing beneficial bacteria in the medium as the each pulse activates and drains into the bottom chamber and I am sure this is why you can run this system at such high water temps also there is so many BB teaming in the medium after so long. Also I am sure running a perpetual will only progress the already evolving BB in the system.
yep, i'm a bio-bucket refugee, and it's one reason for sure, but i think the big reason you can run at higher temps is the oxygen.
in a bio-bucket as well as the other high water speed techniques that rely on o2 in water there is so little o2 in the water that depletion by bio-demand is imminent at all times.
so all it takes is a power outage and the whole show is gone as i found out one morning after a surprise outage that occurred while i slept. all 12 plants were dead. about 3 weeks from harvest.
with bio-buckets it was either feast or famine.
i ran my bio-buckets without a chiller but i had to do a lot of stuff to keep water temps down. such as building an insulated box around my res and buckets and pumping cold house air through it first, and then into the grow room. i could keep temps below 70 but the plants were nowhere near as heavy as ppk plants.
i still got some rot once in a while.
i got root rot with dwc and hempy's too, whenever i let temps climb.
this i why i limit the amount of roots in standing water. the closed tailpiece instead of an open basket or netpot stops the lateral growth that would normally occur in that space. this totally stops the development of air type roots at the interface of the air and water. if they are not there they cannot drown.
the water type roots just push right through this barrier of course but limit themselves when met with a controlled water level that is constantly maintained while the upper root structure is getting all the o2 it needs. if you maintain an o2 level in the upper container that is sufficient the water roots stop at a water source.
this is the big secret to passive water culture. you maintain either a constant water level or only allow it to go down. never bring the water level back up significantly as the rising level will drown the air roots that have invaded that space. this can occur in as little as 12 hours. overnight.
www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/hg-44.pdf
this is outdoors in hawaii with no chillers and no circulating water. probably about 85f in that trashcan.
we have talked about synergistic responses a little and i believe the ppk environment is like a spa for plants.
it heals plants. this little neglected clone i just started is not only getting bigger, it's getting better.
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That was so cordial I want to vomit. A guy could learn a thing or 2 about a thing or 2 here.
puke in the ocean, not the fucking boat.
i would take folks out on my boats. as big and tough seafarers they all swore they did not get seasick.
yet as soon as we hit rough water they would start turning green and getting glassy eyed and i would look them straight in the eye and say, "don't puke in the fucking boat, puke in the ocean", whereupon they would lose it and immediately puke in the boat. goddammit!
arrgh! hosing puke out the scuppers!
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DaveTheNewbie
ill take that challenge. never been seasick yet, and ive been in all sorts of boats in the ocean. Im the guy climbing the rigging while everyone else is crook. its one thing in life that went my way, plus i grew up on the ocean as a kid.
While the Great Lakes aren't quite the Gulf... Or wherever it is you may be... I can handle some swells. I promise not to
in the boat. But can I PLEASE drive? I promise to stay between the buoys! You've got me thinking I should build a few PPK's and run them next to the Float Valve system after I develop my first working models...
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DaveTheNewbie
i predict the only difference between PPKs and Float Valve systems after its all ironed out will be constant drip VS pulse saturation.
you heard it here first folks !
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DHF
My lil beach shack`s 400+ mi. away from the farm D9 , but the older I get the more it calls to me.....and....
My bulldawg get`s PISSED when he hasta go back home , so I`ve been getting all my veggie crop plants in the greenhouse ta harden off till after good Friday , then we plant and the old man down the road`s gonna tend the livestock and the garden , and I`m headed back to the Salt Life......
Number 1 son can feed the dawgs , and my place is rented out for spring break , but I might get a wild hair and go back week after that and say fuck after good Friday plantin.......
Old man get`s paid so he can plant maters and taters , peppers , corn and such other shit........Talk about missin the gulf......and hey.....Fuckabuncha ralphin and blowin chunks on the deck of my boat.......
I keep a 500 count bottle of Dramamine in the head for pussies that can`t hang , but it`s amazing what good dope does for nausea huh ?......
Puke on my deck and yer cleanin up yer own shit....bet on it....now...D9......I really like the triangular placement of the tailpieces as I`m so sure they serve to lock the upper container down in the bucket below to hopefully prevent any plant tipping or fallin over right ?........but.....
I `ve preached it from the get since krusty beat it into my head many yrs ago......Staple yas some chickenwire to the ceiling to open up and support all the heavy ass limbs/laterals that yas can`t get pinned back to your bondage screen behind.....
Overkill`s under rated , unless yas already got a game plan on howta tend and hold them heavy bitches up in late bloomage....and if so....disregard last suggestion.....
...otherwise....getchas some damn chickenwire.....
....Gladta see the larger top feed along with faster drainage , I`m sure the plants will respond accordingly........every 30 minutes huh .......Surely big things are on the horizon with this bastard plant killer that defies all laws of hydro culture....anyways.....
Deleted all posts but the first one with SRGB cuz I think it has merit , but say the word and I`ll get rid of that one too......I respect SRGB , I was only trying to point out things he obviously overlooked about your evolving device.......regardless.....
Peace....Freds......
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While the Great Lakes aren't quite the Gulf... Or wherever it is you may be... I can handle some swells. I promise not to
You've got me thinking I should build a few PPK's and run them next to the Float Valve system after I develop my first working models...
yes, you should! they might mate and produce mutant idiot savant growbots!
My lil beach shack`s 400+ mi. away from the farm D9 , but the older I get the more it calls to me.....and....
My bulldawg get`s PISSED when he hasta go back home , so I`ve been getting all my veggie crop plants in the greenhouse ta harden off till after good Friday , then we plant and the old man down the road`s gonna tend the livestock and the garden , and I`m headed back to the Salt Life......
Number 1 son can feed the dawgs , and my place is rented out for spring break , but I might get a wild hair and go back week after that and say fuck after good Friday plantin.......
Old man get`s paid so he can plant maters and taters , peppers , corn and such other shit........Talk about missin the gulf......and hey.....Fuckabuncha ralphin and blowin chunks on the deck of my boat.......
I keep a 500 count bottle of Dramamine in the head for pussies that can`t hang , but it`s amazing what good dope does for nausea huh ?......
Puke on my deck and yer cleanin up yer own shit....bet on it....now...D9......I really like the triangular placement of the tailpieces as I`m so sure they serve to lock the upper container down in the bucket below to hopefully prevent any plant tipping or fallin over right ?........but.....
I `ve preached it from the get since krusty beat it into my head many yrs ago......Staple yas some chickenwire to the ceiling to open up and support all the heavy ass limbs/laterals that yas can`t get pinned back to your bondage screen behind.....
Overkill`s under rated , unless yas already got a game plan on howta tend and hold them heavy bitches up in late bloomage....and if so....disregard last suggestion.....
Gladta see the larger top feed along with faster drainage , I`m sure the plants will respond accordingly........every 30 minutes huh .......Surely big things are on the horizon with this bastard plant killer that defies all laws of hydro culture....anyways.....
Deleted all posts but the first one with SRGB cuz I think it has merit , but say the word and I`ll get rid of that one too......I respect SRGB , I was only trying to point out things he obviously overlooked about your evolving device.......regardless.....
Peace....Freds......
yep, the tops stay centered with just a little slack so you can get them in and out easily. 4 5/8" from the center to the center of your 1.5" holesaw.
i think i will put up some chicken wire when the room is cleared again. i have some screw eyes and galvanized wire up there now but i need more tying points.
as the roots fill the container drain speed slows down anyway so it's better to start loose.
don't worry about deleting anything else. i think we're all cool now! that conversation kind of ramped up for no real reason. it's all over now!
later
"just using your timer cut off point for control then adjusting the on time down as roots fill the container to prevent a flood?"
this one.
no, really it's no big deal! i just watch it flood once in a while and turn the time down slightly. remember we also have valves to adjust relative to each other.
wow! how did get i neg rep from this?
Maybe people are scared of all of the great weed that is soon to be flooding the nation now that the ppk is catching on. Ya bastard!
