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big plant ppk
- Thread starter delta9nxs
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How did you get that bulb to mount on that fan? I have a fan just like that, and if the need arises i'm gonna do the same thing.(I have a little lasko like that, but just in case it shits the bed).I usually always use a kind of ppk set-up, unless i'm running a hydro table.I used to always bottom feed my plants. They would be in black trays and i watered the plants by pouring water in the tray verses on the plants themselves. The setup in the pic is like what i did but on a bigger scale. I used four .75 gallon dishes per black tray, sea of green style, and averaged 10 grams per plant, with no veg time, and it was simple, when the trays dried up, i would wait another day for the soil to dry then, fill the tray's. Sorry for the rant, just woke up, bowl hits and coffee, happens every time.
Oh btw almost forgot. Perpetual is the only way to go. Been growing like that every since my dad taught me the basics when i was 14. Why wait 8 weeks, when it could be only four, or two weeks to wait. Shit at my last set-up i had to walk away from i had 5 distinct sections, and it was every two or three weeks i was harvesting, it was fucking fantastic, even had a little section for my long flowering sativa's(12-16 weekers). The only way i dint grow perpetual, was outdoors, and that changed last year with me starting to grow auto's. Now i start to pick in july and don't stop till november, hahahahahahahaha(that's the laugh from the thriller video)
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otis33
I do have a thread, not only for my ppks, but for all my projects. I just started it a couple Weeks ago. I wk be harvesting my first ppk circle this weekend. It's in the vert section
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THriveCompany
D9 thanks for posting Ur builds and ideas they make me swim in my thoughts for hours thanks...
i popped the name plate off and glued a pvc fitting to it. i was in a hurry though and the best way would be to use a pvc cap on the fan side too. i would glue it and then drill it and put in a couple of 10-24 machine screws. (3/16").
a 1.5" pvc cap is almost the same diameter as the mogul socket so the top is a 1.5" pvc cap with a 1/2" hole drilled in it for the wire. then a piece of 1.5" tubing for the riser cut to whatever length you want.
i liked it but my air flow between rooms was not good enough. i've got a rigged up cool tube in there now.
my first plant in the ppk was watered from the bottom only and produced a 7 oz plant.
but we quickly found that even a little water from the top, even infrequent, light watering, produced a significantly larger plant.
i think this is a mechanical reaction in the sense that it encourages upward growth of roots, utilizing more root zone than a bottom only approach would.
but as we ramp the pulse up to a full saturation flood i think we are seeing another one of those synergistic responses that is only explainable by hormonal reactions to the "massage".
i think we are sending a message that there is no reason to restrict growth to survive to seed.
anyone who has grown in a high speed recirculating hydro device has seen the plant "turn on" when everything is just right. the plant stays turned on all the time in this device.
in the passive plant killer thread i ran perpetual the whole time. it feels good to be going back to it.
thank you! i'll check it out!
howdy, thank you!
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DHF
IME if roots hit a deep well reservoir in a bottom container without high flow and constant oxygenation to the rootzones submerged in solution , imminent crop death ensues from pythium/root rot SRGB.....and why ?.....
Cuz what you propose is simply a different form of DWC without the recirculating and no air supply to roots....or am I missin something ?......
D9`s setup keeps the rootmass/rootzone above the solution in the upper container without ever allowing roots to hit water in the bottom container except for the tailpieces filled with medium to wick juice back up to said rootmass for a constant "moistness" to the upper rootzone .....
At least that`s my understanding of it....Maybe I`m missin something cuz I remember HK45 drillin extra holes in the bottoms of his upper containers for better solution exchange , but still wondering if that`s a good thingie.......anyways.....
What`re your thoughts D9........
Peace....DHF.....
.....RM - aquagrower
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IME if roots hit a deep well reservoir in a bottom container without high flow and constant oxygenation to the rootzones submerged in solution , imminent crop death ensues from pythium/root rot SRGB.....and why ?.....
Cuz what you propose is simply a different form of DWC without the recirculating and no air supply to roots....or am I missin something ?......
D9`s setup keeps the rootmass/rootzone above the solution in the upper container without ever allowing roots to hit water in the bottom container except for the tailpieces filled with medium to wick juice back up to said rootmass for a constant "moistness" to the upper rootzone .....
At least that`s my understanding of it....Maybe I`m missin something cuz I remember HK45 drillin extra holes in the bottoms of his upper containers for better solution exchange , but still wondering if that`s a good thingie.......anyways.....
What`re your thoughts D9........
Peace....DHF.....
That's exactly what I was thinking, as D9 has stated several times that there is no need to add O2 to the lower container as there is no transfer taking place down there.
Side note: good to see ya Fred. It's posts like this that make your participation so valuable around here. K+ to ya
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DaveTheNewbie
interesting discussion between SRGB and DHF. If i can get between you 2 (dangerous no doubt) maybe i can bridge the gap.
somewhere sometime Heath said something about bubblers being bad. they inject nasties into the water. and more importantly you get better DO from a pump causing surface movement than a bubbler injects anyway (something to do with air bubble size). It was in his thread with the octogon flooded tube i believe
if this is true (im sure it is) and applied here, then a shallow wide bucket of water will get better airation with an open surface being blown about (either by a pump in the water or a fan outside the water) than with a bubbler. As long as there is no lid and the surface is exposed to the environment and small waves are being made.
having said that the PPKs single biggest unique feature is the tailpiece. Apart from that its a standard recirc system. The tailpiece is what moves the PWT and allows wicking to keep the entire medium moist constantly.
with love, I hope i dont get destroyed getting in between you 2 big guys
somewhere sometime Heath said something about bubblers being bad. they inject nasties into the water. and more importantly you get better DO from a pump causing surface movement than a bubbler injects anyway (something to do with air bubble size). It was in his thread with the octogon flooded tube i believe
if this is true (im sure it is) and applied here, then a shallow wide bucket of water will get better airation with an open surface being blown about (either by a pump in the water or a fan outside the water) than with a bubbler. As long as there is no lid and the surface is exposed to the environment and small waves are being made.
having said that the PPKs single biggest unique feature is the tailpiece. Apart from that its a standard recirc system. The tailpiece is what moves the PWT and allows wicking to keep the entire medium moist constantly.
with love, I hope i dont get destroyed getting in between you 2 big guys
