Speaking of suprises, did you read Ishmael yet?
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Aliens, yay or nay?
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bill cooper
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Nope why would i ?
Let's get some Ma fawking Alien abductions goin on up in here,
Mr. Cooper I'm going to suggest a book titled Ishmael.
You may get a pretty good read out of it.
Because maybe you thought it wasn't a bad idea.
So, moving off of the idea of physical contact and proof etc., may I interject what purports to be telepathic alien contact? I find the ideas presented in this video very interesting.
Thoughts?
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Thoughts?
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bill cooper
Member
Well i just had a quick scan of it mr mustard and that was enough ,thanks for the suggestion anyway
Blue Shark
Member
Nice topic ...
SAMSEED
Active member
same here , thought you were talking about alien gentics seeds , like alien tahoe , napalm og etc......
thats why i dived straight in.
straight back out though ...... done it seen it read the books .
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noyd666
How many people believe in the bible or the quran doses that make them true ? There's alot of crazy people out there especially in the US ! Personally i think sleep paralysis explains abductions far better than aliens and if i seen something in the sky i could not explain my first thoughts would be the military or meteors or whatever which involves far less of a leap of faith than aliens which i have only seen in fictional tv programs and going by the vast distances between us and the nearest stars it seems impossible so until i see some proof to make me feel otherwise i'm calling bullshit
Just out of curiousity, imagine if you can a situation where you encounter an alien, not just a ufo siting but say you saw an alien ship land and an alien emerge and interact with you in some way but then left. Lets say you didn't happen to have a cellphone or camera. How would you prove it? Would you be willing to accept someone telling you you're full of it, or dellusional?
I agree and for the record I never felt that city in question was of alien construction. I was just using it as an example because much of the argument "debunking" the alien version of construction was based on someone's interpretation of something very old. That interpretation may be correct but it can just as easily be incorrect. It could even be partially correct. For example it could be correct that they used the tools described but it could be that what they thought were the molds for making the tools was something totally unrelated but just happen to look like a mold for the tools.
There's the thing though, in your effort to create an allegory for ufo's you've created something impossible to have evidence of. If you can't see it or sense it then how could you ever prove it? At least with aliens there are actual tangible things people are pointing to. There have been sitings of ufo's, there have been no sitings of invisible, intangible, unicorns. In fact how do we even know they're unicorns? If they're invisible nobody can see them. Did one stick someone with it's horn, oh wait, they're intangible, they can't stick anything or anyone with their horn. People have claim to have actually seen aliens and/or been abducted by them. You don't have any of that with invisible intangible unicorns because being invisible you can't see them and being intangible they can't abduct you. Most importantly though there is nothing upon which to base the existence of invisible intangible unicorns because there is no evidence of any invisible intangible creatures of any kind having ever existed anywhere. At least with aliens there is always the arguement that since intelligent life evolved here it is probable that it has evolved elsewhere among the trillions upon trillions of stars we believe exist. Which if you accept that then there is always going to be the possibility that one of those life forms have conquered intergalactic travel. Since we've managed to travel in space and would like to go further if we can figure a way.
In fact the only people I can see having any arguement that aliens don't exist are those that believe we are a product of creation of a supreme being and that said being put the stars in the sky for us to have something to look at and stimulate our imaginations. Only in that scenario would our existence not suggest there might be similar life out in the universe.
Until such time as aliens make themselves known to us either intentionally or thru a crash that can't be covered up the only evidence we'll ever have are ufo's and individual tales of encounters/abductions.
bill cooper
Member
I could not prove it and i would be annoyed at being told i'm full of it but i would also be questioning my sanity or i would realise it was just the acid
Can you tell me Hempkat how come you have said a couple of times you don't believe aliens have visited the earth yet its obvious from your posts you quite clearly believe the opposite ?
Hemp. The situation you describe is GREAT evidence - for the person who experienced it. Anyone else who hears about it from that person should be MUCH more skeptical.
Personal experience of having Jesus in your heart may be personal experience FOR YOU.... but if you cannot get Jesus to appear in my heart then there's absolutely no reason I should believe it.
See?
But if Jesus actually answers prayers, that's something that involves interaction with the physical world and can therefore be TESTED.
If the tests were conclusive, it would then be reasonable for people who had not directly experienced Jesus to begin to believe. See?
I agree with nearly everything you typed above. I specifically chose invisible, intangible unicorns because it is (by definition) something that cannot be proven.
I did so because people keep telling me that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
And so I am attempting to show those people exactly why their argument doesn't hold up.
If you believe in aliens (or Jesus) because it hasn't been DISPROVEN, you must also believe in my invisible, intangible unicorns because they have not been disproven either.
If aliens showed up in a MAJOR city, I'm pretty sure at least a FEW (say 1%) of the MILLIONS of people there would take the initiative to pull their cellphone cameras out. If 10,000 (assuming a city of one million) people post videos of the SAME UFO on the SAME NIGHT over the SAME CITY, that would be much more credible.
It's amazing that the aliens only seem to abduct people along deserted country roads.
Why not drop out of the conversation, then?
This thread is called "Aliens, yay or nay?" not "We love you aliens, and we shall not question your existence."
If you don't want to have the discussion we are having, stop having it.
Nobody's trying to take your personal beliefs away. But if you post in this thread saying "I know aliens are real. I've seen evidence, but I'm not going to share it with you." then you are being really lame.
It's like I said "Hey guys, I discovered the best possible way to clone cannabis."
and you said, "Wow. I've tried lots of different ways but none of them are perfect."
and I said, "This one is PERFECT. 100% rooting in 3 days, every single time!"
and you said, "that's kinda hard to believe. How does it work?"
and I said, "Hahah! I'm not here to convince anyone! There's lots of research out there. Go find it yourself!"
Re: Aliens, yay or nay?
Regardless of evidence, somewhere along the way there must be trust in someone's "final word", their "evaluation"
Nobody in this thread can prove xrays exist independant of equipment, research, preexisting knowledge of its mode/function. You just can't. The "collected data" (of value which seemingly defined by status quo) must be "analyzed" as well as "interpreted"
The human vehicle can directly experience a LAUGHABLE subset of the full electromagnetic spectrum.
Some parts of electromagnetic spectrum have been "measured" and can be "communicated"... X ray, color, radio, etc.. we have the capability to send and receive.... Don't be so closeminded. the rest is just as discoverable and out of our CURRRNT tools of measure(meeting status quo - of which 'everyone is a part of)
As such, unicorn way is most flexible for true "scientific vigilance"
Regardless of evidence, somewhere along the way there must be trust in someone's "final word", their "evaluation"
Nobody in this thread can prove xrays exist independant of equipment, research, preexisting knowledge of its mode/function. You just can't. The "collected data" (of value which seemingly defined by status quo) must be "analyzed" as well as "interpreted"
The human vehicle can directly experience a LAUGHABLE subset of the full electromagnetic spectrum.
Some parts of electromagnetic spectrum have been "measured" and can be "communicated"... X ray, color, radio, etc.. we have the capability to send and receive.... Don't be so closeminded. the rest is just as discoverable and out of our CURRRNT tools of measure(meeting status quo - of which 'everyone is a part of)
As such, unicorn way is most flexible for true "scientific vigilance"
