lost, well, what is your take on the whole ufo/alien subject?
Aliens, yay or nay?
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well they are a delusional symptom of a mentally diseased and poorly educated species, which is why americans believe in aliens and ufos the most.. humans today are not like they were 2000 years ago, 1000 years ago or even 500 years ago,, by our antecedents standards we are sadly very very very retarded..
there are some very deep and complicated subjects, like the electric nature of the universe and ancient history of europe and the middle east/india and south america that help explain this all but it took me many years to understand that and not many around us do because the knowledge is occulted (as in blocked from view) on purpose..
you may rightly wonder what those things have to do with aliens and ufos and sadly i cant explain.. well i can but i definitely don't have the time to..
there are some very deep and complicated subjects, like the electric nature of the universe and ancient history of europe and the middle east/india and south america that help explain this all but it took me many years to understand that and not many around us do because the knowledge is occulted (as in blocked from view) on purpose..
you may rightly wonder what those things have to do with aliens and ufos and sadly i cant explain.. well i can but i definitely don't have the time to..
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greenmatter
They should start in Texas...
would that ruin the galactic "eat healthy" policy?
Aliens certainly exist. Can't say why they would come here and kill a few cows and stick probes up our butts, but I've got no doubt that in the billions of other planets out there within our own galaxy that life of some form, and likely intelligent life has developed somewhere else.
and i have no doubt there is life in every corner of the universe.. in all likelyhood with DNA not dissimilar to ours because of its ability to manipulate water and electrostatic forces are pretty unique and the odds are that it is throughout the universe.. and the physics currently assumed about the favourable zone from a star for life to evolve is way off and it is far easier than the mainstream will accept and happens far faster..
but imo they arent little gray wide eyed bald saucer flying creatures..
i would imagine that in terms of retarding themselves humans are probably fairly unique though because of what has traumatised us to this point of self mutilation and seperation from nature.. that trauma makes us want off this planet for fear it will happen again.. which it will.. the same trauma that caused the neolithic era and made us start building cities as well as why peoples globally venerated the planets for over 10000 years.. but this is all opinion.. i dont talk in absolutes, unlike modern "scientists" and "pictures"..
but imo they arent little gray wide eyed bald saucer flying creatures..
i would imagine that in terms of retarding themselves humans are probably fairly unique though because of what has traumatised us to this point of self mutilation and seperation from nature.. that trauma makes us want off this planet for fear it will happen again.. which it will.. the same trauma that caused the neolithic era and made us start building cities as well as why peoples globally venerated the planets for over 10000 years.. but this is all opinion.. i dont talk in absolutes, unlike modern "scientists" and "pictures"..
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I'm standing by eagerly awaiting your debunking of this ill funded research photo.
so when I saw that silver sphere ufo; what it all comes down to is that I'm a deluded, mentally-ill and poorly educated person. phew! and I'm not even american! if I were it'd much more worst surely.
so to put it simply, your view is that everyone who has witnessed a ufo and other similar phenomena were just tripping out of ignorance; however, you hold some secret knowledge of history through which you could explain everything away, but you just don't have time to do it.
ok...
mr.mustard its not my job to do the thinking for you.. if that picture proves alien life to you then good luck with that..
and bombadil if you chose to take what i said that way that's up to you.. not actually what i said but ok...
i cant explain everything away i'm saying that in all likelyhood its ignorance that makes people assume what they see is a ufo and the result of alien life..
also i think you will find that aliens as you think of them are probably a symptom of the magic of hollywood..
and bombadil if you chose to take what i said that way that's up to you.. not actually what i said but ok...
i cant explain everything away i'm saying that in all likelyhood its ignorance that makes people assume what they see is a ufo and the result of alien life..
also i think you will find that aliens as you think of them are probably a symptom of the magic of hollywood..
He's hilariously paranoid and unable to do much except attack others' opinions.
His research is however very sound and the only evidence you should use to make your conclusions.
His research is however very sound and the only evidence you should use to make your conclusions.
oh yes because you have presented so much valuable information for us to ponder over haven't you ??
ive said numerous times what i say is my opinion.. if you dont do any research then that is your empty headed problem and not mine to argue with you on a stoner forum..
ive said numerous times what i say is my opinion.. if you dont do any research then that is your empty headed problem and not mine to argue with you on a stoner forum..
Welcome to this empty headed child's ignore list.
Good luck with all future attempts at acting civil.
Good luck with all future attempts at acting civil.
i really wish you would have put me on your ignore list sooner.. get to it post haste!!
dont worry it's my loss...
dont worry it's my loss...
personally, and also many other people who have witnessed a ufo at some point in their lives, do not think that they must be inhabited by hollywood type of beings... why would we think such a thing anyway? oh yeah, we're too ignorant to be able to discern the fictional character of a hollywood movie and instead just automatically view every experience through the lens of pre-conceived hollywood fantasy!
ok...
this may be too far-out for you, but most people who have witnessed a ufo, myself included, think of it as simply that: an unidentified flying object.
If I had to choose one of the speculative theories on their nature, I like the whole angelic/demonic theme. even the time-travel theme is good too... but do I know for certain what the ufos are or are not? surely not.
also, what kind of research are you refering to, lost?
what kind of research will lead you to the 'occulted' enlightening information that is being kept from the masses?
legalizeDK
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thats kind of a derogatory comment. i would say that you are the ignorant one, thinking you know what other people seen.
so when someone sees a ufo and assumes alien life is behind it and i say that it is more likely through a lack of knowledge or understanding (ignorance) of what they saw, that makes me ignorant?
thats fine i respect your opinion i just dont see the logic..
i dont know what they think they saw i'm just saying that aliens seems an extreme and baseless assumption made more on belief than anything..
thats fine i respect your opinion i just dont see the logic..
i dont know what they think they saw i'm just saying that aliens seems an extreme and baseless assumption made more on belief than anything..
lets try keep it civil, it never helps to get information across to belittle or insult while doing so. this is the way to close off the mind of the person one is talking to.
anyway i tend to be skeptical too about it being aliens in the traditional sense that are responsible for phenomenon like crop circles and the countless unidentified object sightings. but what i do believe is that we have no traditional means of explaining these things at this point. it is possible that we have scientists working in secret that can do these things with new technology or what some say is old technology thats been forgotten. on the other hand it is also not too hard to believe that some of these happenings really are caused by beings from some other dimension/place or plain of existence. it could be there are multiple sources for what we call the genuine crop circles.
what is harder to believe is that some drunk guys have been doing this year after year, 100 crop circles a year just in England, with no recognition and letting a bunch of people make money on their art. photos, films, calendars all are sold at great profit, while the drunks with the string and boards are just staying quite and keep making more of them for others to cash in on. now that is hard to believe, forget for a sec how they make the crops change like in the pic above, how do they flatten the crops without breaking or even damaging the crops, let alone killing them? what about the weird multdirectional pattern in the way the corn is laid down? wouldn't it all be laying in one direction if someone was pushing it over with a board? what about the walls on the edges, or the amazing twirls? no one can do that without breaking and killing the crops. watch that thing i linked, the guy goes through many possible theories ending up also saying they are probably man made with some as yet unknown tech.
anyway i tend to be skeptical too about it being aliens in the traditional sense that are responsible for phenomenon like crop circles and the countless unidentified object sightings. but what i do believe is that we have no traditional means of explaining these things at this point. it is possible that we have scientists working in secret that can do these things with new technology or what some say is old technology thats been forgotten. on the other hand it is also not too hard to believe that some of these happenings really are caused by beings from some other dimension/place or plain of existence. it could be there are multiple sources for what we call the genuine crop circles.
what is harder to believe is that some drunk guys have been doing this year after year, 100 crop circles a year just in England, with no recognition and letting a bunch of people make money on their art. photos, films, calendars all are sold at great profit, while the drunks with the string and boards are just staying quite and keep making more of them for others to cash in on. now that is hard to believe, forget for a sec how they make the crops change like in the pic above, how do they flatten the crops without breaking or even damaging the crops, let alone killing them? what about the weird multdirectional pattern in the way the corn is laid down? wouldn't it all be laying in one direction if someone was pushing it over with a board? what about the walls on the edges, or the amazing twirls? no one can do that without breaking and killing the crops. watch that thing i linked, the guy goes through many possible theories ending up also saying they are probably man made with some as yet unknown tech.
legalizeDK
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what about all the pilots, military personel, pigs(police) ect that stated they saw a ufo, astronauts seen them, are all of these hallucinating lairs?
and i don´t see your logic does that make you ignorant.
well it goes hand in hand with an "extreme" experience.
i respect that people don´t believe in ufos(alien) what i don´t respect is when im told i watch to many hollywood movies or that im ignorant for considering that what i saw could be "aliens"
and i don´t see your logic does that make you ignorant.
well it goes hand in hand with an "extreme" experience.
i respect that people don´t believe in ufos(alien) what i don´t respect is when im told i watch to many hollywood movies or that im ignorant for considering that what i saw could be "aliens"
how about all the nazca line patterns walked into the ground by people ?
we know for a fact aliens didn't originally (and don't continue to) make them and they are ancient.. aren't they pretty amazing and complex ???
the reason i mentioned hollywood is because americans specifically have a predisposition towards believing in aliens that you do not find in the rest of the world..
and i didnt call them liars for seeing ufos,, a ufo is just an unidentifiable object
i myself have seen objects i couldnt identify..
we know for a fact aliens didn't originally (and don't continue to) make them and they are ancient.. aren't they pretty amazing and complex ???
the reason i mentioned hollywood is because americans specifically have a predisposition towards believing in aliens that you do not find in the rest of the world..
and i didnt call them liars for seeing ufos,, a ufo is just an unidentifiable object
i myself have seen objects i couldnt identify..
New documentary coming out that should be interesting
legalizeDK
Member
what about the nazcar lines? didn´t know people thought they were made by aliens. many thinks it for the aliens to see. i really dont know what they were used for. but i dont dismis the alien thing
