Aliens, yay or nay?

[HempKat]

Well one interesting way to look at all this is our tendency historically to believe in Gods and see them as beings that live in the sky or heavens or space. Why would we think that? Wouldn't it make more sense that if Gods or a God created us and this planet that he or they would dwell here as well? It would seem to make more sense that we think Gods or God live in the sky because at points in our past aliens visited here and that being so much more advanced then we are we percieved them as Gods.

 

[legalizeDK]

Well I agree that we don't know everything about space travel but that doesn't necessarily mean that there is a way to travel faster then the speed of light. I hope there is and one day we discover it so that we can explore more then just our immediate solar system. Just because a civilization might be much older then our own doesn't mean that they will discover things we have not though. As I understand it one of the problems with traveling the speed of light or faster is that it is believed a physical body would turn to pure energy. Since we can't travel anywhere near that fast though we can't test it. Nor can we learn if the body would return to it's normal state once it slowed down. Or if there is a way to keep it intact and still travel that fast. Or if while in that state a being would retain awareness such that they could react to unexpected events during the trip or be able to apply the brakes at the right time to reach a desired destination.

The distance issue is real, that much we're fairly certain of and so it makes sense for that to always come up. I do however account for the possibility it might not be a limitation for a more advanced race but it's also my opinion that if that were the case that if an alien race could travel those vast distances in a more reasonable time frame, that being that advanced would most likely eliminate much of the needs to come here to earth. Or that if they still felt a need to come they would be able to do so in a way to stay hidden and if they didn't stay hidden they would do more to make their presence known then just allow for random sightings and encounters

if in theory warp speed is attainable, that would make it posible to travel faster than light the speed of light and as you warp the fabric of space around you in theory you wouldnt become energy. also the wormhole theory makes it posible ish(cause no one knows)

the odds are if a inteligent civilization are that far ahead they would have discovered most of what we have a a lot more.

btw would love to sit and smoke a couple with you all discussing this, cause i hate writing long texts

 

[bill cooper]

The reason they believed in gods was to explain anything they could not understand (god of the gaps) hence why as we are able to explain more and more belief in gods is less and less and the reason they believed they came from the sky was probably because the original gods were the sun ,moon and stars
nothing to do with aliens which there is not one shred of proof for unless you think the history channel is factual

 

[Pinball Wizard]

if intelligent aliens are found?

the defense industry will consume 98% of the world's budget, 2% for food & water

I'm looking forward, to it

 

[Easy7]

I am sure alien life forms "astral travel" but I think other forms of physical travel are very rare, dangerous and of little value. There are so many galaxies, surely there is advanced life within the milkyway!

 

[HempKat]

btw would love to sit and smoke a couple with you all discussing this, cause i hate writing long texts

I agree this is so much more fun when it's done with a group of people all sitting around getting high and just trying to have a good time.

 

[HempKat]

The reason they believed in gods was to explain anything they could not understand (god of the gaps) hence why as we are able to explain more and more belief in gods is less and less and the reason they believed they came from the sky was probably because the original gods were the sun ,moon and stars
nothing to do with aliens which there is not one shred of proof for unless you think the history channel is factual

Well first I didn't ask why they believed in Gods looking back historically it's pretty obvious Gods or God has always been/ is being used to explain the unknown.

I don't agree with your assesment as to why they felt they lived in the sky. I'm not saying no ancient race thought this but I can't think of any evidence of any ancient race thinking the sun or moon were Gods. There's plenty of evidence they thought there were Gods that controlled the sun and the moon. Still all of this is conjecture since we have no recorded evidence that says "This is why we believe Gods live in the sky". If there were no gods and no aliens mistaken as gods then why would we even come up with the notion of Gods in the first place? There is no evidence of any other life form worshipping some other entity as their creator so why would we? What would make us have this concept of superior beings that live in the sky if not seeing aliens and mistaking them for Gods?

 

[bill cooper]

my point is if ancient man watches the sun rise and set and has no understanding of why but know's its the key to there crops growing would it not be logical to think maybe the sun was the first god that was worshipped ? i'm only guessing but it makes more sense than your nonsense which involves aliens when there is no evidence and there is plenty of evidence for sun woirship ra ancient egypt to name just one

 

[Womble]

I think crop circles are messages from aliens. BOG

LOL you are joking....what's that shit that you be smoking? tical tical pass it over here then

 

[Hank Hemp]

Crop circles were started by a bunch of drunks in a English bar.

 

[Tonygreen]

Aliens are real, where do you think the idea for tentacle porn came from.

 

[greenmatter]

Crop circles were started by a bunch of drunks in a English bar.

i heard they were started by jimmy page so that i would be fooled into buying music that i already own

 

[BushyOldGrower]

Hard to make a fake crop circle really.

Nobody has figured out to make one yet but try if you are drunk enuf...

Most likely a lot of our entertainment has been softening us up for the big day of contact.

Will they be like the races in Star Trek? The Klingons look like the gorillas took over the planet of the apes and the Ferrengi seem like old banker types who are really lower than gorillas for sure or will they be like in starship troopers? Don't ya hate bugs?

I assume the good guys will win and then come save us. They will be tall white guys who believe in love and fairness and mercy and such.

So no worries mates!! Just leave it to the good guys.

 

[unthing]

what it they're coming here to harvest..us?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

They should start in Texas...

 

[legalizeDK]

Crop circles were started by a bunch of drunks in a English bar.

cant really remember where i read it but the drunken guys in a bar was discredited cause the found some "evidence" of cropcircles way before the drunks started doing it. if it holds up i don´t know

 

[lost in a sea]

Well one interesting way to look at all this is our tendency historically to believe in Gods and see them as beings that live in the sky or heavens or space. Why would we think that? Wouldn't it make more sense that if Gods or a God created us and this planet that he or they would dwell here as well? It would seem to make more sense that we think Gods or God live in the sky because at points in our past aliens visited here and that being so much more advanced then we are we percieved them as Gods.

no we think gods live in the skies because the gods are the planets.. 8000 years of planet worship should make people wonder why surely?

in every culture, on every continent, the planets had the same actions towards each other which told the same story because all the peoples of the world witnessed the same cosmic interactions.. so they had the same pantheon.. not a coincidence..

crop circles can be done,, i'm not saying its easy but people can make them..

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I remember seeing how there were differences between the hoax circles and others.

There was a magnetic or electrical print and the stalks of the grain were bent and not broken whereas the hoax circles had no electrical difference and the grain was broken.

 

[lost in a sea]

yeah supposedly but the so called "researchers" are pretty suspicious,,, imho anyway..

funded by dodgy organisations and foundations and the other fields they publish articles on are pseudo science by most standards..

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Pictures don't lie and I saw the stalks but like I said before skeptics don't change their minds.