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Aliens, yay or nay?

Aliens, yay or nay?

  • Absolutely no

    Votes: 18 4.8%
  • Maybe, i'm not sure

    Votes: 43 11.5%
  • Of course, there are aliens out there!

    Votes: 312 83.6%

  • Total voters
    373

Hank Hemp

Active member
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Scientific fact changes as more facts(proof), is brought to light not speculation. There maybe ETs but not here. They're at home. Space is pretty big to come so far and either say Hi Y'all or not let themselves be noticed.
 

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
Veteran
If that video counts as GOOD, I can't imagine why you don't believe in Sasquatch and the Loch Ness Monster.

Maybe you do.

All I see in that entire 7+ minute video are lights in the sky, blurry, shaky footage and some artifacts that could've been added by any 15 year old with Adobe AfterEffects.

If that's enough to convince you, i have a video of myself holding some seeds. Little do you know that they are actually MAGIC beans and will make all your wishes come true.

Only $1,000 per bean. Act now.


some of them videos showed something very similar to what I saw with my lady. when we saw it, it was pretty strange and out of place, it's not something you see everyday and can go: "hey, that doesn't look normal, it should look like this or like that", as one does not have a point of reference to compare with.

it's not like as if you see an airplane flying too low and dangerously moving and shaking, you know it's not supposed to look like that...

maybe the videos are all made up, but yeah, some of them did look good to me because they looked like what we saw.

peace
 

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
Veteran
Scientific fact changes as more facts(proof), is brought to light not speculation. There maybe ETs but not here. They're at home. Space is pretty big to come so far and either say Hi Y'all or not let themselves be noticed.


or how can you know how are aliens supposed to behave? why are they supposed to say "hi, hello there!"? is that a cultural constant of all the extraterrestials you have met?
 

Hank Hemp

Active member
Veteran
I haven't met any or seen, heard or what ever. So they're not here. There is no proof what's so ever.
 

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
Veteran
I haven't met any or seen, heard or what ever. So they're not here. There is no proof what's so ever.


what would proof consist of though? what's your point of reference to compare?

what if aliens that may live amongst us shared a great deal of dna with us and looked like us? maybe a little bit more good looking or something hehehehe...
 

Crusader Rabbit

Active member
Veteran
Questioning could be a form of mockery though that wasn't my intent.

I've went back and forth with Anti plenty of times Rabbit.

I think you're onto something there with the chimps. We share the same percent with mice.

I went there.


I looked at some articles and posts referencing the statement that we share the same percentage of similar DNA with chimps and mice. Seems that you and others have confused the finding that we share a very large percentage of functional genes with mice, with the findings that we share a very large percentage of identical DNA sequences with chimpanzees. The numbers are not comparable. They do not demonstrate that mice are as closely related to us as the apes.
 

Hank Hemp

Active member
Veteran
See it

See it

what would proof consist of though? what's your point of reference to compare?

what if aliens that may live amongst us shared a great deal of dna with us and looked like us? maybe a little bit more good looking or something hehehehe...

They wouldn't look anything like us. If they came here why be hidden. If you didn't want to be found out you could probably not fly over people in broad day light, don't you think? So you must think they are screwups to be seen so often. Couldn't they get all the info they needed from radio and TV broadcast? Why get so close if you want to be secret? :ying:
 

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
Veteran
They wouldn't look anything like us. If they came here why be hidden. If you didn't want to be found out you could probably not fly over people in broad day light, don't you think? So you must think they are screwups to be seen so often. Couldn't they get all the info they needed from radio and TV broadcast? Why get so close if you want to be secret? :ying:


I wouldn't even know where to start to speculate on why they would want to be hidden, or seen, or if they look like us or not; there's no way to base any such speculation on anything since we simply have no point of reference to compare to.

for me, statements like: they wouldn't look anything like us; or, they would look very similar to us, are all in the same league of pure speculation.

they want to be seen, they don't want to be seen, they are good, they are bad, or any other sort of speculation is simply just that, mere guesses...

the only thing we know for sure is that tons of people see ufos, as to what they really are, is anyones guess. maybe some people do know, but cannot prove that what they know is true...
 

DIDM

Malaika
Veteran
mushrooms came from space

it is mathematically impossible for there NOT to be other life out there. Space is basically infinitely big
 

Hank Hemp

Active member
Veteran
But they're not here and if they are where's the proof????? Y'all remember crop circles? A bunch of limey drunks in a bar thought that up?
 

Crusader Rabbit

Active member
Veteran
But they're not here and if they are where's the proof????? Y'all remember crop circles? A bunch of limey drunks in a bar thought that up?

What's even more unbelievable is that a whole lot of people thought that visiting extraterrestrials was the best explanation for designs stomped out in fields. "Somebody" would travel across interstellar space to press geometric designs in some farmer's field? Intergalactic pranksters!

:chin:
 

DIDM

Malaika
Veteran
But they're not here and if they are where's the proof????? Y'all remember crop circles? A bunch of limey drunks in a bar thought that up?

maybe they are as technologically advanced as we are?

or maybe they are super advanced and we don't know they are here?

maybe mushrooms are a device "they" used to find new inhabitable planets?


all I know is there has to be something else, or else this giant space is totally useless? There is no way out of infinity only 1 exists
 

medmaker420

The Aardvarks LED Grow Show
Veteran
In this entire universe I doubt we are considered "intelligent" by any means.

The odds are of us being the only living creatures chillin on floating rocks in space?

Just by saying that we are floating around on a big rock in space sounds crazy even before you talk about gravity and what keeps us on OUR ground.

There are just too many big things happening around our world for US to be the only ones.

I would believe in aliens versus anything written in any man made bibles ANY DAY though.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
i have read that 3 times now and i still have no idea what your trying to say gibberish :moon:

Seems pretty obvious in the context of the post I was responding to. Some people are asking for proof and in absense of proof are coming up with other rational explainations for a UFO sighting. In other words they're saying, "no that's not a UFO, that was just an LSD flashback" (insert any other rational explanation in place of LSD flashback).

Then I went on to say what if it wasn't a flashback? What if it just so happened that for whatever reason only one person witnessed an alien visitation and had no way to prove it other then his/her eyewitness accounting? For other things such as crimes an eye witness accounting is considered fairly solid evidence. If a person dismisses that eyewitness accounting just because they could think of a different way to explain it they could in fact be dismissing the one shred of evidence that existed. Over time if this happens often enough you would then have a history of UFO claims to which it is said there is no evidence and you would have a culture of people saying it isn't true without physical proof they can examine.

If someone sees something and you are not there then you have no way of knowing what they saw is real or not. To deny they saw what they claim to have seen is really nothing more then a guess based on your own preconcieved notions of what is and isn't. Unless you are some all knowing all seeing God your opinion of what someone saw is actually worth less then their accounting of what they saw, even if what they saw actually was the result of a delusion.

Sure, we shouldn't just accept that there are aliens in flying saucers just because someone says they've seen them but neither should we deny it just because that person wasn't able to prove it to our satisfaction with physical evidence. Lack of physical evidence of a claim does not necessarily mean the claim is false. It just means there is a lack of evidence.

That's what's kind of nice about the term UFO, it doesn't deny what people think they saw it just acknowledges that something was seen but at present is unknown. It does not say, "nope, that was never there, you just imagined it."
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
But they're not here and if they are where's the proof????? Y'all remember crop circles? A bunch of limey drunks in a bar thought that up?

Well since we are getting so heavy into speculation, it's widely believed in the 50's an alien craft crashed here and the craft with it's occupants were kept in a secret base and tested on by the military. Now from all I've heard it was a small craft with at the most 3 passengers. Given what we know about space and space travel (distances and limitations) this small craft would likely then be part of a recon mission for a larger ship. If so and these aliens had the ability to travel vast distances of space it's likely the larger ship was in contact with and/or watching their scout ship. If so then they would have been aware of what happened to the crew. As such they might be highly incentivized to avoid future contact.

Now I don't really buy any of that although I do think an accidental crash is the only likely way anyone here might ever see an alien from outer space. I think that because I can't think of any logical reason they would want to endure the likely years upon years of travel to get here, just to check us out. Nor can I think of anything particularly remarkable that might only be found here and be detected from multiple light years away in order to draw them here.

The point is, just because I can't explain why based on my understanding of things doesn't mean it's not true. In lack of physical evidence one has to wonder then about the actual sightings. It's the volume of sightings from all over and from people of many differering backgrounds, some very questionable and other respectable and professional that suggests there is something worth considering. To just say that all these people are just seeing something that isn't there because there is no proof isn't any more logical then someone seeing lights in the sky that doesn't look like anything they know and saying therefore it must be an alien space ship.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
What's even more unbelievable is that a whole lot of people thought that visiting extraterrestrials was the best explanation for designs stomped out in fields. "Somebody" would travel across interstellar space to press geometric designs in some farmer's field? Intergalactic pranksters!

:chin:

I don't know what everyone else thought but when I first heard of people talking about crop circles and aliens it was my understanding that most people felt that the circles were some sort of impression made by the alien's craft from landing, not that the circles were the purpose of the aliens coming here.
 
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