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Jbonez

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That's cool. I have been using h3ad formula in coco for years now. I used to use liquid karma with it, and I have since stopped. Now that I have had enough time to evaluate, I feel like I had no signs of any nute problems when running liquid karma, but now that I've stopped I've noticed some Mg def and other little things. I don't know if they are related or if it's just my water quality. It has gotten a little harder over the years. Either way I'm thinking about moving on from the h3ad formula.

Im not at home right now bro, but Ill get with you in a bit... just wanted to reply..

Pdubs, get involved! I think that we have the most intelligent growers here with the most knowledge and you dont need to knock, you already have a key!

Freds: Its funny how you say you cant hang with the nute discussion, yet you yourself were using nearly the same formula we are advocating and you did it with objective results that got you what you wanted without all the organic chemistry.. Please jump in when possible because your experience imo is tantamount to the evolution of us other vert guys looking for the cold hard truth!!! Your sweat is worth more than my speculation, and I dont take that lightly bro!!!!
 
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I used 20-20-20 @ 1 tablespoon per 5 gal. every watering in promix with dialed results for a few years. Learned the formula from an old head that's been growing that way since the 80's. Probably not a perfect ratio, but the shit worked wonders for me. Just food for thought......
Hell......I cut my teeth on Peter`s Special Triple 20 from the get on my outside escapades with Sativa-Zillas startin back in the mid 70`s , and my crazy ass botanist major partner nuked them bitches in mid bloomage with 0-64-0 "Super Phosphate" and OMFG did that shit swell em up ftw........anyways.....

Many waysta skin a mule but,.....Takes runs under yer belt ta dial nutrient requirements with each individual hybrid.....bet on it.....

Peace.....Freds........:ying:......
 

Jbonez

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OK, so the Agsil and floragro are here.. Time to get this nute business under control until I can devise something a little more specific..

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Update, 6weeks in for most.. PK, and Rodawgs are a few weeks behind..

ChemD 6weeks
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Katsu Bubba 6weeks
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Snowdawg 6weeks
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PK 4-5 weeks
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Jbonez

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I think its the chemd clone x apollo13 clone, my boy made it, all we got is seeds left tho, we lost the apollo13 clone a while back...
 
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all of that looks beautiful... the Chem D is my favorite it has got great structure..tall thick and full or nugs she looks like a champ

so you followed a defoliation regimen with her..? looks like she did very well

happy harvests ahead :thumbsup:
 

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Yeah, welding goggles ftw!

Yeah, the increased growth I attribute to the defoliating, and have since adopted the practice full on.. starting with veg, and I LOVE the results.. Great for stopping vertical growth and letting the stalk fill in with new budsites that put off some chunk..

Here is a concept my boy and I are thinking of running, gonna test her out.. (Thanks Dbonez for the concept)

Vertical Rack on the CHEAP son, lol..Get about 20 in there and I think she would own....

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so jbones, that stake goes thru all the cups to the bottom pot? and the cups just sit on top of the soil of the one underit?
cool
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Jbonez

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so jbones, that stake goes thru all the cups to the bottom pot? and the cups just sit on top of the soil of the one underit?
cool
i like

Basically we cut out the bottoms after they were planted and watered decently..

Then run the stake through each one with a bottom to weigh it from falling and a extra bubblegum cutting in the bottom.. But Ill water from the top.. plenty of runoff so as not to build up nutes.. 10 bucks I think to build.. Id like to do a wall of them, big circle but with yielders... This is a rack of Urkles with a single indy bubble in the bottom..

Hopefully we see a bit of weight of it.. who knows!

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since they are kinda in a staircase shape was that they highest you could fit ??

could you move the bottom plant (next time) closer to the edge of the pot and maybe squeeze one more cup on top

I like the idea
 

Jbonez

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since they are kinda in a staircase shape was that they highest you could fit ??

could you move the bottom plant (next time) closer to the edge of the pot and maybe squeeze one more cup on top

I like the idea

I hear ya, and yeah, but I dont know how they will stretch because the light kinda has to be up higher, and when they are done stretching I didnt want the top to not get any light..

Just testing this out for now, weve got a better more integral design I think, but this is so cheap and easy to setup. If I had a shit load of these in a circle with some plants that had a little more veg, with slightly larger containers, I think this could kill...
 

Jbonez

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that is truly frugal genius status J-bles big-ups on the creativity

Ha ha, cred goes to my homie Dbonez.. Had family over all day and then he showed up with this thing talking about lets try it, shit free clones? I had to oblige.. Plus, I think we can come up with something more progressive once we dial it...
We got a local produce spot using this concept in a large greenhouse pumpin weight! straight strawberries and lettuce son!

It is frugal but that was the goal I guess, cannot argue! lol
 
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