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How good are autos these days
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PetersJupp
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if you have problems with low temperatures, you can use auto´s and do 24/7 from seed to harvest 
thats a good thing in winter month
also some strains are quite fast (f.e. fast bud 2 by sweetseeds or vertigo by paradise seeds)
thats a good thing in winter monthalso some strains are quite fast (f.e. fast bud 2 by sweetseeds or vertigo by paradise seeds)
They really aren't the fastest plants out there. They can be relatively quick, don't get me wrong, but most of them require a minimum of 70 days, which is 10 weeks. But you could start some seeds of a 7 week variety, like AK47, under 12/12 from seed, and harvest them a full week sooner than that. Most plants started under 12/12 from seed tend to take an extra 2 weeks for their initial veg time.
Something to think about.
Something to think about.
Guys, please don't get me wrong. I can assure you I wasn't smoking any early samples. I was simply giving my experience on the autoflowering strains I've experienced. And the "30 minute" comment I made, don't get me wrong, it wasn't just like it completely ended in 30 minutes, I guess a better word would be to have peaked at 30 minutes, and then slowly faded over the course of an hour or two. I've had the exact same experience with White Dwarf, Red Dwarf, Syrup, Diemos, Master Low, Power Stout, Lowryder 1, Lowyrder 2, and I'm sorry that I wasn't impressed but you don't need to take it personally.
Once again, yes, it was comparable to a lot of "normal" indica dominant strains that flood the US market, but that's not what I'm into. Right now I'm accustomed to smoking pure colombian sativas on the regular, and once you're used to that, and you're a sativa fan, any indica dominant strain will let you down. It's just personal preference.
I'm sure theres some great autoflowering sativa-dominant plants out there, but I have no no reason to need to grow them. Like I said, my climate is perfect to flower the longest of sativas, and indoors I can grow whatever I want. So, please, tell me, what benefit would I get from growing an autoflowering strain? If there are any autoflowering strains that can stand next to some elites, let me know and I'll try them out. I actually plan on trying out some of La Buena Hiebras autoflowering strains to see how they are.
Again, I'm just being real with my experiences, please dont' try to discredit my experience and say I smoked early samples. I don't claim to be a master grower, but I've been growing for 6 years, and smoking for 9, I definately know the difference between a weak strain and an early harvested bud.
Once again, yes, it was comparable to a lot of "normal" indica dominant strains that flood the US market, but that's not what I'm into. Right now I'm accustomed to smoking pure colombian sativas on the regular, and once you're used to that, and you're a sativa fan, any indica dominant strain will let you down. It's just personal preference.
I'm sure theres some great autoflowering sativa-dominant plants out there, but I have no no reason to need to grow them. Like I said, my climate is perfect to flower the longest of sativas, and indoors I can grow whatever I want. So, please, tell me, what benefit would I get from growing an autoflowering strain? If there are any autoflowering strains that can stand next to some elites, let me know and I'll try them out. I actually plan on trying out some of La Buena Hiebras autoflowering strains to see how they are.
Again, I'm just being real with my experiences, please dont' try to discredit my experience and say I smoked early samples. I don't claim to be a master grower, but I've been growing for 6 years, and smoking for 9, I definately know the difference between a weak strain and an early harvested bud.
[quote If you only get high 30 minutes you are probably just smoking too much[/quote]
Right, smoking lower dosis less frequently is the way to stay high at all times.
I never understood where the hype of needing strong strains is all about.
Maybe it's the tendency of ppl wanting to believe more is always better ?
If you smoke much, you will just be wacked out. If you smoke disciplined, you'll be feeling good at all times, provided you manage to lay your hands on something balanced.
I've been smoking Diesel ryder since the day it appeared first on the market and I still like to rate it highest on my list of any strain ever having come my way.
I guess it just depends on what your expectations are.
If you need some party drug thats giving you the heftyest experience ever? Don't smoke weed at all, rather head for something chemical comming from some dodgy lab.
You wanna feel just fine? Then better refrain from superstrong weed but learn how balanced weed is supposed to make ya feel when going about it more disciplined.
Super strong weed is imvh opinion just hype shit with no substance to it.
Gimme a jar of dank, or gimme a jar with Dieselryder, I'd be taking the latter. Tyvm.
Right, smoking lower dosis less frequently is the way to stay high at all times.
I never understood where the hype of needing strong strains is all about.
Maybe it's the tendency of ppl wanting to believe more is always better ?
If you smoke much, you will just be wacked out. If you smoke disciplined, you'll be feeling good at all times, provided you manage to lay your hands on something balanced.
I've been smoking Diesel ryder since the day it appeared first on the market and I still like to rate it highest on my list of any strain ever having come my way.
I guess it just depends on what your expectations are.
If you need some party drug thats giving you the heftyest experience ever? Don't smoke weed at all, rather head for something chemical comming from some dodgy lab.
You wanna feel just fine? Then better refrain from superstrong weed but learn how balanced weed is supposed to make ya feel when going about it more disciplined.
Super strong weed is imvh opinion just hype shit with no substance to it.
Gimme a jar of dank, or gimme a jar with Dieselryder, I'd be taking the latter. Tyvm.
Thats the thing though man, I wasn't trying to say they were weak in general, I was trying to get across that for me, with my preferences, I found it to be weak. I was trying to help other sativa lovers or people used to heavy strains, especially first time growers, from getting their hopes up too much.
And to be real, what's weak to someone, is potent as hell to someone else. For example, if you give me a bud of some heavy indica, and no matter what time of day it is when I smoke it, it makes me tired as fuck, to me, that's boring and weak, while to others it would be strong as fuck. And at the same time, if I gave someone a sativa that didn't relax them, put them to sleep, or sedate them, and they were looking for a heavy hitter, they'd say it was weak, so it's all subjective.
And to be real, what's weak to someone, is potent as hell to someone else. For example, if you give me a bud of some heavy indica, and no matter what time of day it is when I smoke it, it makes me tired as fuck, to me, that's boring and weak, while to others it would be strong as fuck. And at the same time, if I gave someone a sativa that didn't relax them, put them to sleep, or sedate them, and they were looking for a heavy hitter, they'd say it was weak, so it's all subjective.
Tetra..Stop apologizing.There was absolutely nothing wrong with what you said.you simply shared your experience and asked a question.For people to think that your reaction to a particular strain isn't right because you either smoke too much or don't know how to grow is comical.Everybody's chemistry is unique. I have only grown Diesel ryder and i was NOT impressed BUT I highly doubt there isn't an auto out there that wouldn't get me baked.However if I am going to put the time in its going to be for something I KNOW will do the trick.
rangergord
Active member
I have an autoflowering Celestial Temple Sativa. Landrace sativa crossed with lowryder. I did the breeding myself. Now an F5 it grows outdoors at 55 North with ease. It has beautiful form, stable and plenty potent for me. I grow hydro indoors as well, northern lights, blueberry etc. My experience has been that autoflowers are excellent for certain outdoor climates. They are prone to dwarfism indoors in pots because the root restrictions and higher temps trigger early flowering. Outdoors in a cool climate they take twice as much time to begin flowering as indoors. I got a pound of bud from a small bed of plants outdoors. Much better yeild than indoors. If I lived in the south I would look for more appropriate varieties. Harvested at the right time (at least some amber trichomes) it is very satisfying.
I'm also checking some Think Different plants for next year outdoors. DutchPassion is having a new strain tested, out in january, they say will yield even more + comparable potency. I don't know how they do outdoors, most growers use them indoors or outdoor pots.
I'd be very interested in any first hand info about mostly sativa autos, around 80/90 days total for double cycle growing season. Big yields and potency expected.
Thinking Dinafem Haze 2.0 auto, but will it do in 90 days outdoors in soil? Doubt it.
I'd be very interested in any first hand info about mostly sativa autos, around 80/90 days total for double cycle growing season. Big yields and potency expected.
Thinking Dinafem Haze 2.0 auto, but will it do in 90 days outdoors in soil? Doubt it.
Regarding indoor grows, in a theoretical sense I would think that autos should be able to yield a lot more in a given amount of time and space, due to being able to photosynthesize for +18 hours per day instead of only 12. Have any of you found this to be true? I haven't grown autos so I have no comparison to photoperiod strains.
@ Farmari, Imo we're not that far yet, but should for sure technically be possible.
I got industrial auto flowering plants containing no thc here that yield verry well compareble to regular thc strains if not better.
The landrace/heirloom/survival type of breeding should be used much more intensely still and over a much longer timespan as has been done untill now.
Can it be done? Yes, has it been done? NO, it's all still in progress.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=227015&page=46 check for the pic with the guys head sticking out of the bush, but there are much better pics of the strain when checking out google.
These are Finola autoflowering hemp. They were grown under rather compromised circumstances tho.
I had one of these plants ones partly indoors but had to delete the pic because of a raid.
No where on this site did I see bigger and more buddingsites per plant and with more yielding power as on this peticular, true auto flowering plant.
Hence I know for sure it can be done. Period.
NB. To be completely honest I must stress that this is a long flowering auto and needs about 4 months from seed to finnish under perfect circumstances.
Here up north (southern lapland) I have been growing tobacco and cabbage that due to the uninterupted summer sunstolsice and inspite of the cooler temps, have been yielding larger plants as they would do elsewhere on this planet at optimal temperatures.^^
I got industrial auto flowering plants containing no thc here that yield verry well compareble to regular thc strains if not better.
The landrace/heirloom/survival type of breeding should be used much more intensely still and over a much longer timespan as has been done untill now.
Can it be done? Yes, has it been done? NO, it's all still in progress.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=227015&page=46 check for the pic with the guys head sticking out of the bush, but there are much better pics of the strain when checking out google.
These are Finola autoflowering hemp. They were grown under rather compromised circumstances tho.
I had one of these plants ones partly indoors but had to delete the pic because of a raid.
No where on this site did I see bigger and more buddingsites per plant and with more yielding power as on this peticular, true auto flowering plant.
Hence I know for sure it can be done. Period.
NB. To be completely honest I must stress that this is a long flowering auto and needs about 4 months from seed to finnish under perfect circumstances.
Here up north (southern lapland) I have been growing tobacco and cabbage that due to the uninterupted summer sunstolsice and inspite of the cooler temps, have been yielding larger plants as they would do elsewhere on this planet at optimal temperatures.^^
Dank §inatra
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what happens if you breed an hemp plant with thc plants? i guess it will produce thc? maybe less?
Gets remarkebly less yeh.
An online friend of mine was beeing sent to jail & succesive mental facility where he got forced medication up his ass for growing hemp/marijuana crosses that contained only 3% thc.^^
The guy Is rather notorious in our country and goes by the name 'Timo Haara'(Google?) for his stubborn annual attempts at producing Finola hemp by the acres.
Guy is on no way insane though. Just Gubmint trying to curb his activities.
He's pretty open about his activities on radio, tv and columns.
So for more info on his advancements I'd rather suggest putting your translator to work and check out what he's been up to, lol.
I got Finola/Dieselryder/Auto Doublefun f1 crosses waiting to be popped in spring & only to see what such a cross would taste like.
An online friend of mine was beeing sent to jail & succesive mental facility where he got forced medication up his ass for growing hemp/marijuana crosses that contained only 3% thc.^^
The guy Is rather notorious in our country and goes by the name 'Timo Haara'(Google?) for his stubborn annual attempts at producing Finola hemp by the acres.
Guy is on no way insane though. Just Gubmint trying to curb his activities.
He's pretty open about his activities on radio, tv and columns.
So for more info on his advancements I'd rather suggest putting your translator to work and check out what he's been up to, lol.
I got Finola/Dieselryder/Auto Doublefun f1 crosses waiting to be popped in spring & only to see what such a cross would taste like.
@xaraph, wait untill the autoflowering strains exeed the quantity & quality of regular strains.^^
Ofcourse you would not want to have any of it for now, since you are obviously focused only on what you can get right now & right away.
Some ppl however try beeing part of this vision and put their efforts on other places as just
temporary gain.
There are many ppl that like to keep their grow rooms as simple as possible.
Having to protect a grow unit entirely from false light comming in is not a skill most ppl are beeing able to pull off.
This could be one verry legit reason for ppl wanting to grow reasonable yielding types of auto's indoors over regulars.
Enabling more ppl to grow more easy more bud, equals more happiness imo
Ofcourse you would not want to have any of it for now, since you are obviously focused only on what you can get right now & right away.
Some ppl however try beeing part of this vision and put their efforts on other places as just
temporary gain.
There are many ppl that like to keep their grow rooms as simple as possible.
Having to protect a grow unit entirely from false light comming in is not a skill most ppl are beeing able to pull off.
This could be one verry legit reason for ppl wanting to grow reasonable yielding types of auto's indoors over regulars.
Enabling more ppl to grow more easy more bud, equals more happiness imo
AKDrifter
Member
People rave about autos and the marketing is outstanding, its been that way for years now. My view of autos is tainted from a few years ago, I grew several runs of what were touted a "potent" quality smoke and I really thought they were shit. People were raving about them, I thought the smoke was mediocre at best. I would not call any of the LL or JD strains I tried potent by any means. But, that was several years ago, and there has been a huge explosion in auto sales, hopefully just not marketing hype.
I guess everyones taste and tollerance is different, but you really have to try for yourself and see if they do it for you. I could never say LRII is kick ass bud. Smells great, looks great, grows great, but potency is nowhere near what I am interested in and yield is elf size.
To me they are a novelty. Fun to grow and fast, but not worth it when quality regular strains are available. Until they are BETTER than the regular strains why dilute. Is auto anything as good as its 12/12 roots?
I guess everyones taste and tollerance is different, but you really have to try for yourself and see if they do it for you. I could never say LRII is kick ass bud. Smells great, looks great, grows great, but potency is nowhere near what I am interested in and yield is elf size.
To me they are a novelty. Fun to grow and fast, but not worth it when quality regular strains are available. Until they are BETTER than the regular strains why dilute. Is auto anything as good as its 12/12 roots?
