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334,000W running on Aptus nutrients

catalyte

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we're on the internet ^ there's no way of detecting sarcasm unless ya use a emoticon!

still love this thread thnx to Dt for opening up this can of worms :yes:
 

TheArchitect

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We are friends, brothers, fellows in arms, doing what we love.

I never intended to come off as a know it all or like I was telling you what to do.

I just don't like the secrecy of these nutrient companies. They don't have to specify the exact mix, but at least be honest with the ingredient list.

And I do know a little about plant nutrition, so I understand 99% of the products and claims made by these companies are bull so I spread a healthy skepticism among my fellow growers.

Anyway, take care, and may your future be filled with much more success.
 

Yes4Prop215

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hah get me a sponsership il put aptus to the test on open sun 200 gallon plants and see what kind of effects it has! if aptus got the outdoor circle on the bandwagon their sales would surely increase...

but shit if i empty 1000 gallons worth of reservoirs in one feeding how much aptus do i need lol...
 
hah get me a sponsership il put aptus to the test on open sun 200 gallon plants and see what kind of effects it has! if aptus got the outdoor circle on the bandwagon their sales would surely increase...

but shit if i empty 1000 gallons worth of reservoirs in one feeding how much aptus do i need lol...


That's the best part only 300ml:woohoo:
 
We are friends, brothers, fellows in arms, doing what we love.

I never intended to come off as a know it all or like I was telling you what to do.

I just don't like the secrecy of these nutrient companies. They don't have to specify the exact mix, but at least be honest with the ingredient list.

And I do know a little about plant nutrition, so I understand 99% of the products and claims made by these companies are bull so I spread a healthy skepticism among my fellow growers.

Anyway, take care, and may your future be filled with much more success.


Cool bro

Best of luck to you too

A lot of the nutrient companies dont even now what's in their own nutrients


The guy with nitrozyme told me his product contains 15,000 enzymes

Lol
 
i dont believe in these nutrient companys and the advantage they take on pot growers, only pot growers are paying these prices for these nutes, any other vegetable growers are doing it organically or the the ones that use chems use the cheapest shit, prolly something from monsanto cuz they dont care about quality or they wouldnt be using chems to begin with.

i grow the original way youre supposed to. with soil and water. make my soil with all the correct amendments, add water and teas and never had better bud. 100x easier and cheaper. soil costs about $6-$10 per cf depending on how many amendments i use. and i pay for grow bags, other then that once i pay for the soil i wont spend another dollar. i can even reuse the soil. dont have to ph or check ppms. just fuckin pour water every few days when it gets dry. easiest thing i ever done. and the teas prolly cost me like a dollar to make.

its sad how these nutrient companys take advantage of pot growers cuz pot growers think marijuana is some special plant that grows different then others and requires advanced nutrients 50 bottle lineup. it grows just like any other plant.

i know with large scale grows you can get a boosted yield that adds up a lot and you can get the buds to look better with chem nutes, so i dont hate on growers that use these bottles, i just choose not to. maybe if i was just about the money i would use nutes but i love good pot.

if i was to use nutes i would use this big ass tub of jacks i got for $15 before i made the switch. add some silica, cal mag and seaweed and some bloom boosters in flower.

im not hating just the way i do it and i try to help others see the light.
 
i dont believe in these nutrient companys and the advantage they take on pot growers, only pot growers are paying these prices for these nutes, any other vegetable growers are doing it organically or the the ones that use chems use the cheapest shit, prolly something from monsanto cuz they dont care about quality or they wouldnt be using chems to begin with.

i grow the original way youre supposed to. with soil and water. make my soil with all the correct amendments, add water and teas and never had better bud. 100x easier and cheaper. soil costs about $6-$10 per cf depending on how many amendments i use. and i pay for grow bags, other then that once i pay for the soil i wont spend another dollar. i can even reuse the soil. dont have to ph or check ppms. just fuckin pour water every few days when it gets dry. easiest thing i ever done. and the teas prolly cost me like a dollar to make.

its sad how these nutrient companys take advantage of pot growers cuz pot growers think marijuana is some special plant that grows different then others and requires advanced nutrients 50 bottle lineup. it grows just like any other plant.

i know with large scale grows you can get a boosted yield that adds up a lot and you can get the buds to look better with chem nutes, so i dont hate on growers that use these bottles, i just choose not to. maybe if i was just about the money i would use nutes but i love good pot.

if i was to use nutes i would use this big ass tub of jacks i got for $15 before i made the switch. add some silica, cal mag and seaweed and some bloom boosters in flower.

im not hating just the way i do it and i try to help others see the light.


Hey S

You doing outdoor ops?
 
A lot of growers struggle to keep the plant alive.

They add so much shit in there it kills the plant

It's a very confused market. Thanks to the American marketing machine

Growersarebecoming more aware though and guys like you have to lead the way for the uneducated guys
 

KITCHA

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And cycocel is a pgr..... But I have seen plenty of cycocel crops and I don't believe it's in fasiltor, cycocel inhibitis resin, and makes plants a real dark green colour buds full of pistils and rock hard. I don't believe there are any true synthetic pgr's in the Aptus line although bio silicic acid can be categorised as a natural pgr as it does regulate plant growth only from organic compounds as opposed to synthetic.
 

GDK

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Heres a quote from my thread about silicic acid. It contains the data from the dept of WA AG on Fasilitor/Regulator.

yikes- check out this report from washington state dept of ag. it contains lead, arsenic, selenium, meCommercial Fertilizer



Select Fertilizer Products



Fertilizer Product Information



WSDA Home Pesticide & Fertilizer Home Commercial Fertilizer Home



Questions concerning the fertilizer product displayed on this page can be directed to fertreg@agr.wa.gov.



For animal poisoning or exposure questions, please contact your veterinarian and/or the Animal Poison hotline at 888-232-8870.



For product information other than metals, please contact the company directly. If you can not find the address or telephone number on the label, refer to the registrant information on this database.



The "Total Metals in Product" is the concentration of each listed metal found using the analysis required by WSDA. The Washington standard for metals is based on the concentration of metals in the product and the application rate of the product. To accurately compare products, you need to consider the use rate on the product label.



To access the Washington State Department of Ecology's database of waste-derived and micronutrient fertilizers, click here. [external link]



REGISTRANT: APTUS USA LLC



Mailing Address 17831 SKY PARK CIR STE 12-C-D

Post Office Box

City IRVINE

State CA

Postal Code 92614

Telephone Number 949-748-8777

Fax Number 949-748-8778

PRODUCT: FASILITOR 0-0-0.6



GUARANTEED ANALYSIS

(%)



TOTAL METALS IN PRODUCT

(ppm)



Total Nitrogen (N) Arsenic 0.6000

Available Phosphoric Acid (P2O5) Cadmium 0.1000

Soluble Potash (K2O) 0.6000 Cobalt 0.1000

Calcium (Ca) Mercury 0.0500

Magnesium (Mg) Molybdenum 404.3000

Sulfur (S) Nickel 0.6000

Boron (B) Lead 1.2000

Chlorine (Cl) Selenium 5.5000

Cobalt (Co) Zinc 0.2000

Copper (Cu) The symbol "<" indicates the minimum detection limit. The metal was not found at or above the minimum detection limit.

Iron (Fe)

Manganese (Mn)

Molybdenum (Mo) 0.0001 Waste-Derived?

Sodium (Na) Micronutrient Fertilizer?

Zinc (Zn) Phosphate-Containing Fertilizer Material?

GYPSUM & LIMING MATERIALS

(%)





(%)



Calcium Carbonate (CaCO3) Magnesium Carbonate (MgCO3)

Calcium Carbonate Equivalent (CaCO3) Calcium Sulfate (CaSO42H2O)

rcury!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


taken from this thread:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=248842

Stay Safe
 

GDK

High Class Grass
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BTW..i used Aptus and will start using it again from my next crop.

Stay Safe
 

Avenger

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yea, i was wrong, its not chlorocholine chloride that is used in the choline-stabilized silicic acid formula but rather choline chloride. Slightly different, but still a PGR or gibberlin inhibitor.

I can't say that it is, and am not saying it is bad if it is.

but it seems to be, to me.

choline stabilized silicic acid is the new tech for bio available silicon, including human and animal supplements. thats not to say you should drink your fasilitor.

anyway, cheers, great grow show!
 

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