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Living organic soil from start through recycling
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All good dogs go to soil~
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schwagg
heres a male BO x CB. not bad looking....
already dropping flowers
nice little seedling of BO x CB, hope its a big bottom gal!
already dropping flowers
nice little seedling of BO x CB, hope its a big bottom gal!
IncredibowlBoss
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We've got 2 cremated tarantulas and 1 cremated corn snake doing the cycles in our soil. I'll probably go to worse use.
Wow! I've been reading here all day and I love it.
I've been recycling my soil for almost a year now and I absolutely love the results I'm getting.
Lately I was using this as a soil amendment:
I was thinking about trying a tea of some sort with it as well but not quite sure with all the rock dust and minerals in it... would this be a harmful foliar tea?
I've been recycling my soil for almost a year now and I absolutely love the results I'm getting.
Lately I was using this as a soil amendment:
I was thinking about trying a tea of some sort with it as well but not quite sure with all the rock dust and minerals in it... would this be a harmful foliar tea?
IncredibowlBoss
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I'll let the masters answer, but fwiw, I'd suggest mixing a tea of your own from these ingredients (rather than buying the mix), and substituting/adding some of the other good stuff talked about in this thread (ie comfrey, aloe Vera, potassium silicate, etc.). Not only will it likely cost less, but you'll be able to control the quality of your ingredients. I might swap out the molasses - I've used cottonseed meal in my veggie garden, but it hasn't come up in this thread at all, so I'm not gonna speak on it.
Safe to apply as a foliar on all foliage surfaces just before lights out - dilute appropriately, of course, and rinse foliage with water if you notice any residue when the lights come back.
IncrediblebowlBoss
Here's the upside to using cotton seed meal: like many seeds, the cotton seed is a nutritional powerhouse. Besides the NPK there are a number of compounds that are beneficial when used as a fertilizer in the correct amounts.
The amount you want to use is dependent on a number of things not the least of which is what plants you're growing. It's used by blueberry growers as well as rhododendron growers as they prefer acidic soils.
So that's the upside and here's the downside:
Cotton plants are grown for their fiber meaning that this plant is not subject to the same rules that food crops are. This has absolutely nothing to do with organic or non-organic. Even conventionally grown crops have regulations on fungicides, insecticides and herbicides. Not much but there are some.
Through the miracle of politics, industry lobbying, etc. the seed is now magically transformed into a food item. The oil is pressed and the meal (cake) is sold to processors that mix livestock, swine, poultry and even pet food. The oil is very inexpensive so it's a favorite with food processors and it's also used as fry oil and it's popular because it's cheap, cheap, cheap.
Using this text string at Google will give you and idea on how much these plants are sprayed "insecticide fungicide herbicide cotton plants"
Then there's this reality and you'll see that it's available for as little as $.10 per lb. and note the countries of origin on the right-hand column.
Ain't pretty.........
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Cotton is one of the worst as far as what it needs to be sprayed with.....go hang out with some of these cotton farmers kids down in places like Kerman,California.....and then tell me chemi ferts/pesticides/fungicides don't cause any harm to the developing human fetus.
Golly gosh Mr. schwagg... there are some fine looking
Blue Orca x Cherry Bomb..nice bushy male,actually a good trait I find hard to come by from males,does he stink and have resinous stems? Possibility he could transfer that 'bush' into some F2's...
man all the males that i have found had potential
schwagg will find something enjoyable in that offering,im pretty confident on that
what i really want to know,is how this cross compares to someone who has the BO cut
honestly one of the better f1 hybrids,a personal favorite with a high keeper ratio
schwagg will find something enjoyable in that offering,im pretty confident on that
what i really want to know,is how this cross compares to someone who has the BO cut
honestly one of the better f1 hybrids,a personal favorite with a high keeper ratio
Blue Orca is seriously be-well medicine. I'd say indica dominant with the sativa side adding the feel well characteristics...the indica side supplying the medicinal effects such as pain,nausea,appetite stimulation.
Very tasty,sweeter than TO,but very similar to TO,it takes about two or more years to know them apart when dry by smell. Looking at them TO has bigger flowers...BO has orange hairs. You would never be able to discern the difference between TO and BO in a bag.
As for the Cherry Bomb...sativa dom all the way...reminds me of Mexican...because half of it is.
I'd say the combo should give phenotypes that are floating somewhere around 50/50 sativa/indica. BO looks to be a more stable breeder than TO...all The BO crosses look uniform compared to TO.
Durban Poison x BMR....aka Durban Bubble.... my keeper cut @ 65 days rootbound in a 4 gallon bucket and she still gave me 6oz.....if not for living soil it would have crapped out 4 weeks ago.
Thanks for that article Sam.
Excellent read. I know silicon is important but didnt realise just how much!
Thanks also to Cootz for the bottle smashing reference. Makes it easy to understand.
So i had a wee search and found the following video on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_B48BRznFA&feature=relmfu
Cucumber: Highest in Silica to Naturally Reverse Osteoporosis
So cucumber has the most. Cucumber fpe foliar anyone?
ps. Any news on the aloe supplier Cootz?
Cheers!
Also heres a thought:
I now put all my leaves i pull off the plants on top of the soil as mulch. The strains i grow put out LOTS of leaf and need a good 'haircut' every week or so. Do you think a plant can sustain itself on JUST the leaves as topdress plus the occasional tea??
I suspect once a healthy living soil is achieved this would be possible.
Whaddya think?
I now put all my leaves i pull off the plants on top of the soil as mulch. The strains i grow put out LOTS of leaf and need a good 'haircut' every week or so. Do you think a plant can sustain itself on JUST the leaves as topdress plus the occasional tea??
I suspect once a healthy living soil is achieved this would be possible.
Whaddya think?
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BlueJayWay
I mulch the same way, never can get enough just from cannabis to keep the whole garden with a thick mulch though. I know it helps and another way to best "mimick" nature, leaves falling from the tree year after year etc. but I don't see it ever being a complete nutrition source, i.e. a lot more is in play under an oak tree than just its own leaves composting over time, ya know?
Sweet! I don't think I'll be using the Yum Yum Mix much longer... and I won't be making any tea's with it.
I'll use the last of it and then I'm making up a Total Fresh batch of soil from the recipe on page one and I'll be reading this whole thread many times... I'm sure.
Right now, I'm steadily buying all the local products that I'll need.... I just got off the phone with my local Worm guy and he has some compost and EWC for me.
Now.... I think I'll need about 10-20 Times this recipe quantity... this should be fun.
I'll use the last of it and then I'm making up a Total Fresh batch of soil from the recipe on page one and I'll be reading this whole thread many times... I'm sure.
Right now, I'm steadily buying all the local products that I'll need.... I just got off the phone with my local Worm guy and he has some compost and EWC for me.
Now.... I think I'll need about 10-20 Times this recipe quantity... this should be fun.
If there are any wild cannabis areas left in the world you can bet the only nutrition they get would be from the material of itself...considering that cannabis out competes surrounding vegetation,and considering that there would be no interference from humans.....by nature,after time these native soil areas will supply everything it needs.
As we know in thick cannabis growth little light reaches the lower canopy..which means even competing species would be overtaken. Possibly grasses and climbing things like vetches and legumes would manage to survive.
Hybridized and crossed types would definitely demand more than what the native cannabis field could supply.
As we know in thick cannabis growth little light reaches the lower canopy..which means even competing species would be overtaken. Possibly grasses and climbing things like vetches and legumes would manage to survive.
Hybridized and crossed types would definitely demand more than what the native cannabis field could supply.
Compost and EWC from the same 'worm guy' source sounds awesome...that should be good stuff....probably the best compared to anything bagged.
Remember that you have to take in account that topsoil,compost,EWC will vary depending on type and source...adjust with aeration/drainage amendments accordingly...use common sense and add more or less if you need to. So the recipe on page #1 is flexible ...if you understand this.
I'm sure you know by now Mile High how NOT to make mud,but rather a planting medium....also remember to allow ample breakdown period or 3 to 4 weeks...the longer the better.
Yes i reckon outdoors this would be achievable but only after a good dose of the normal goodies before planting out. Then the leaf mulch would get it over the line... maybes
I certainly find in pots the girls just want feed, feed and then some more feed
Blumats are getting setup tonight!
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