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Micro grow 80w LLR#2

i didin`t started to grow but it will happen in few days just wanted to know opinions about my low budget plan:
LLR#2 fem seeds (i guess i`l start to grow one by one)
lighting:
1x45w cfl
1x20w cfl
going to paint the inside white color so the light get used good.
for seed to plant i`m going to use bought from shop with 6.5-7ph and pour some perlit.

in plans to buy temperute meter,won`t buy ph because of budget.
after everything is done i`l see how much cash i got and it will decide whether i`l get nutriets.
All opinions are welcome especcialy about Low ryder#2.
Thanks everyone :)
 

M-UNG

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For those vegetative watts may be fine but you should increase flowering!
What measures has the area of ​​cultivation?
 
For those vegetative watts may be fine but you should increase flowering!
What measures has the area of ​​cultivation?
not sure if i`l buy a small cabinet or build my own.
got another idea to get maybe 2x45w one with 2700k another with 6700k spectre but will that be enough?
 

M-UNG

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If you buy a cfl 125w agro? but now whats the misure of grwo? after this question we decided the lamp :)
 
in shops i checked there is normal CFL lights so i will need to make that reflector ahead of lamp by myself about the grow size,maybe 70x60x50?don`t really know what size should i build for one plant to be enough since it is low ryder#2 auto as i read they grow fat ant not high,or high but not fat.
sorry for my english,all opinions and information is welcome,building will start tommorow.
 

yesum

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You want the lights sideways to the plants and a good reflector on them. No more than 2 inches away in flower. Those 2 lights will be just enough for a short plant, about 1 foot tall.

Shiny aluminum (baking pan) or any metal for a reflector. It should be within half to 1 inch away from the light bulb and curved to shape of bulb. For small or 27 watt cfl or close to that, you can make a 'beer can reflector', a search will provide all the info.

You can get a cheap drop ph tester for under 10 dollars. Unless you have weird high ph waterlike I do, you will not need it.
 
as i know low ryders#2 grow up to like 50cm so box height about 70cm would be enough?
what should be other sizes you recommend?
would it make big diffrence between 1x45w 1x25w cfl to 2x45w cfl and wouldn`t it be too much?
and what lights method is best for this strain low ryder#2 18/6 then 12/12 or how?
thanks again people
 

rootidec

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:) hi superclass :)
i agree on the liquid ph test... that one is needed, really.
your grow space sounds right, i'd throw in both plants and go for 150-200w cfls for real nice results.

then you have many options regarding grow style, bulbs placing and number... so many I can't think of a right one.

...but I already see here some of the best guys so don't worry :)
 

M-UNG

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For all the autoflowering plants photoperiod does not change, just say they are independent of the photoperiod! You have several options, the best in my opinion are 18 \ 6 or 20 \ 4! With these options and a good wattage the plant will give 'a good result! Read my guide, translate it with google translator, and if you want to pass it in your section because it could be useful to everyone :) https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=243037
"Guida Autofiorenti"
 
but if i grow one by one and on low budget kind of something like 60-90w would be okay?
and maybe you got more info about this low ryder#2 in thesse conditions kind of what yield to expect?LST from early is good?
 

repuk

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Hi!

I don't have much experience with autos, so take my advice with a grain of salt...

If you want to go LEDs on a budget I'd make the cab at least 1.20-1.50m, as you will be using 10w leds , and they should be at least 30cm from the canopy, ao you'd better be safe than sorry.

For an auto I would go 18/6, photosyntesis has two phases for a reason, I haven't seen good results with 24/0 but for early clones of some strains, and only a handful days.

For the led and just one auto plant, I wouldn't LST too much, just a little, then build the LED luminaire lthat lights from above.

Another option, if you know the lowryder buds in the side branches would be building something like a pyramid, to light from above and the sides, as this is easy with leds.

Grams will be a function of power, so with real 90-100W it should be between half for a low to average grow, and 70-80% for a successful grow with an auto I guess.

I would source the leds from ebay, and use a computer power supply 12V lines, in parallel with each LED, limiting voltage to them using a couple diodes just like hempfield show in its mazar/ak47 thread.

Look for a cheap source of aluminum profiles, and rivet more alu profile pieces to their back.

You'll have to experiment, if the profiles or LEDs go over 50C you will have to use fans.

Regarding spectrum if you read the building an hml LED you'll know we are all experimenting, I'll use a mix of whites, and add some 660nm LEDs as soon as it starts to flower.
 

repuk

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Regarding the exact mix of whites, first locatethe leds on ebay, preferably a reputable brand, then we will have to look at its specsheet relative output spectrum power graphs.
 
1x45w cfl 6700k spectre
1x45w cfl 2700k i guess will have to be enough through hoping anyway for 30g :D
tommorow all setting up starts i will paint white all box or make inside with cooking folium not sure.
any more info is very welcome in any time before it`s too late :)
thanks
 

Avinash.miles

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u pm'ed and asked me @ air flow, intakes and exhausts and whatnot.
basically: exhaust should be at the top, pulling hot air from where it has risen to. intake should be filtered, and low to the ground, so u are pulling cool and clean (ish) air into your growing area.
i have very little exp. w cfls so ill let sum1 else speak on that, just get as many watts as u can for flowering.
 
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