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COCO, BLUMATS AND VEG+BLOOM. 1 GPW GOAL. GAME ON!

Desert Hydro

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does anyone know if enzyme products are safe to run through blumats? if not i think i may just mak a 5 gal bucket up at a time and put a mosquito dunk in there as well for the gnats and hand water every couple days a little bit.
 

Desert Hydro

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1 gal exactly lol. let the cure commence! this will be the last time i run her. she was OK but the yield and potency was not quite up to par for my liking. my tsi fly yield is better in a week less and the potency is top notch. this next run in progress is going to be epic! i think i may build a stadium and try and go as effiecient as possible. not sure yet.
 

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today is a good day. my truncheon and my flying dutchmen Pot of Gold showed up from the bou! it came with some sam the skunkman original haze X skunk #1 so those should be cool as well. as soon as my jackberry show up(im assuming monday) i will start all 5 types and get em rockin
 

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ive got a decision to make......my monsters are still stretching a bit and they are getting bushy like crazy. i think they are a bit crowded lol. i can either leave them be or fire up another 600 and run all 3. its really nice out at night so i can pull cool air in to cool the room so no ac is needed.

i think this will mos def kill my GPW since im adding in an extra 600w, and although i will get a better yield i dont know if it will be enough to justify the extra 600w. i'll get some pics up so you guys can tell me what you think later.
 

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i popped 4 jackberry, 3 POG, 3 killingfields x katzu kush and 2 chemmy jones. i figured that should be more than enough to find a couple more keepers lol.
 

repuk

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grabbing a chair :)

I've read your blumat autowatering thread, thanks!!!

Tried to read the main one (haven't finished yet).

Took note of your "let the ceramic cone equalize for a day after putting it in the coco", very practical tip! unvaluable for me as the blumats are going as I'll repot by this weekend!

I have a practical question regarding blumats, I'll be doing modSCROG and will like to be able to move the plants around, the problem: the drip lines.

If I run one line from the res to the first pot, then to second, then to the third, then to the fourth, etc, as the blumats are normally installed, moving pots will be tricky, is it fine to use a couple T's from the rez, then run a line to each pot? I'm using 4 pots, maybe 2 lines, one per couple pots? Any tips regarding this? I assume pressure is lost in T's...

I'll be using a 25L (5,5gal) res. I have a sort of quick disconnect for the res...
 

Desert Hydro

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u can pull the blumat out of the pot and then move them around. just dont leave them out for too long or the cone will dry and you will leak all over. u can also set them in a dish of water and then you will be able to take your time and move them without fear of leakage.

i like the way veg + bloom is working but i will say that it is causing clogs in my lines. i have to massage the brown lines every couple of days to make sure there is no blockage but other than that it is great. no defs and the plants have gotten way too big lol
 

rives

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Repuk, I run a feed line around the perimeter of my tent with T's set about 4" apart, and then run lengths of 3mm tubing about 4'-5' long. This gives me plenty of rope to hang myself with! If going this way, you do need to be careful about accidentally pinching the 3mm lines closed - they are so soft that it doesn't take much. You can pull the spikes out as DH said, but I've found that if you do that, it interferes with the "bond" between the media and the spike and changes the way that the blumat responds for a while. Sunnydog recommend leaving them alone even when swapping out the plants, I believe. He as some that have run several turns without being disturbed.

DH - I don't know what you have going on with the V+B building up crap in your lines, but that is not my experience with it. Are you running anything other than V+B and Drip Clean?
 

Desert Hydro

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no but wha ti was thinking is that maybe they had some old junk already in the lines because the shit coming out is brownish and the nutes are clear. it has to be old buildup from when i used some organic additives or something. ive never had an issue before and its only on a few so im assuming the ones i reused the lines on.

either way the plants seem to be loving it. i added a few drops of some enzyme stuff. we'll see what happens if anything lol. i had to get real creative with some zip ties because the tsi flys keep stretching like mad. the rest seem to be done for the most part. its a jungle in there. im still undecided if i should fire up the other light or not and my lumateks seem to be malfunctioning. they will start up and then just cut out and not come back on. if i unplug they will usually come back on. luckily only one has done it at a time otherwise it would be bad. i dont want any hermies lol

any ideas as to why they would cut out like that? maybe they are getting too hot or something? i can put a fan on em and see if keeping them cool helps but i dont know why it would? doesnt make much sense to me. ive checked all the connections and they seem to be fine. idk what is going on but i dont like it haha
 

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rives

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It sounds like either a heat or a low voltage issue to me.
 

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Could be a lot of things.

I've witnessed similar with friends running Lumateks.. they had to be returned for replacement.

In addition to what Rives recommended I've seen a few odd things when running electronics with cheaper lamps. What kind of lamps are you running?

My buddy was just playing around with a new Nano ballast. It would run perfectly on a hortilux or digilux however would exhibit the same symptons you are experiencing when running a cheaper plantmax lamp. Not sure if it was the bulb or the ballast, but the cheap bulb ran fine on other ballasts, but would not remain lit in the nano.

Also..are those 600w lumateks or are they 1k units dimmed down to 600w. I'm currently running some 600w solarmaxes in a 1k ballast turned down until I'm ready to flower. The other day I turned them off.. they cooled down, but would not re-fire. I tried a ton of shit, but finally got them to re-strike by turning the ballast to 1000w and firing them up.. only then turning down to 600w.

now this may be totally unrelated as I've been having some problems myself with a 240v circuit...more about that going to be posted in the equipment forum as I still cant wrap my head around what I'm experiencing.


Maybe take a multi meter and check to make sure each "LEG" of your main panel is providing 110/120v. Previous rental with an old shoddy panel was giving me 120v on one leg, but only 90v on the other leg. Some stuff was working the house.. some stuff had power but wasnt functional. Really weird. Flipping the 100a main on/off/on/off a few times wore down whatever corrosion was causing the problem enough for me to finish out and get the hell out of this shitty rental.
 

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they are all 600's and the bulb that is going out is a brand new digilux. i will try out a few different things. its on right now so i guess thats good lol.. anyways here is some progress shots. tomorrow wil be the end of week 3. you can see in the first pic where i went zip tie crazy lol

i think these have all about tripled in size. it really sucks, but next time i will be better prepared.
 

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the lines seem to be cleared now. it was just leftovers in the line. i will say that with only a lb of v+b and a big res i am burning through it rather quickly. i dont even know if my lb will finish out this grow lol. i hope so. i do really like it though. no defs and everything is thriving. no issues at all. i think its worth the extra money not to have to add all sorts of BS just to get nutes to do what they are supposed to lol. i think i will keep up on the drip clean and i think i will order some silica when i order my next batch. one thing ive noticed is that after being opened it clumps or gets hard. i was thinking about adding some desscant packs in there to keep it from doing that. ive just been shaking it to break it up on mixing days.
 

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gonna take cuts tonight and get em under t-5's asap for the next round. these are gonna be heavily topped or LST'd from the get go and im definately not gonna get em as big as these bastards. i dont know how many i should take though. im thinking 4 from each mom to give me variety but ive also been thinking to run only one type at a time to simplify things. im confused. idk know what i would rather do anymore lol. any suggestions?
 

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i took a few clones of each and while i was in there i saw some damn whiteflies! i sprayed a ton of spinosad and ive got mosquito dunks on the soil. i will continue with the spinosad and throw in some neem oil in a couple days. if that doesnt take care of them i will resort to pyrethrum sprays or foggers. can anyone reccomend a good spray? i hate the foggers as they leave a sticky residue behind. they just finished week 3 so now is the time to hit em hard before i get too deep into flower. ive installed filters on the intake of my room. i think i got them because i was pulling in unfiltered air from outside. lesson learned :(
other than that everything is good. nutes are still doing great. ive found that i have to give nearly full strength to my moms otherwise mild defs pop up. no biggie. it actually simplifies things because now i can feed off the same res.
 

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the whiteflies dont seem to be gaining ground with all the biological warfare im waging on them lol. im doing pyrethrin, spinosad, Bt and DE all together. plants are doing great! and ive got 2 more lbs of veg + bloom on the way. ive found i can safely run all my flowering plants and moms on the same ec which makes it easy to run off of only one res. even more simplified than ever now!
 

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Desert Hydro

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u can use soil or coco. i WOULD NOT run molasses through blumats! if i use molasses i would simply mix some up and water my hand. ive got clones in the cloner and soon to be vegging. gonna run 4 of each strain and see how they do lst'd heavily from the start. just got my extra v+b in the mail today so im stocked for a while. good growing everyone!
 

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